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Best fat burner with AP?

trailer36

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USP and all reps,

Which do you guys feel would be the most synergisitic fat burner to use with AP? I prefer one with a stimulant effect but I want to hear all of your opinions. With all of the fat burners out there I am sure some would be better to combine with AP than others. My goal is to use AP and "recommended fat burner" to maintain/gain muscle mass and drop bf.

Thanks guys
 
"Best" is a very subjective term. I would highly recommend cAMPHIBOLIC but is is not a stimulant. AP can be stacked with virtually anything so if you must have a stim just pick your favorite.
 
I'm currently stacking AP with Damage Control Protocol, Yohimbine HCL and Camphibolic, it's an awesome fatloss stack. I've definitely suggest you give DCP and Camphibolic a try.
 
I was actually thinking about using FYRE. What do you guys think? It has gotten great reveiws and I am willing to give it a try. For some reason, fat burners dont have much of an effect for me. I am hoping that AP will be the last supplement I need for my physique goals.
 
DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP, DCP! That's all I gotta say!
 
i would assume transhinones would be extremely synergistic with AP being that it targets DGAT but may cause insulin resistance. add TTA in the mix and hold on to your sides:bb:

i guess what im saying is DCP all the way!!!!
or phenogen but that doesnt include TTA.
 
Well after doing some reading on DCP it seems like this would be a fierce combo. Like I said, I have used just about every fat burner on the market (including ECA) and just havent gotten many results past what my diet has done for me.

CHAPS, is there any special way you are combining the two? Should I change the dosages around or just use as recommended? I think I am going to do a non-sponsored log here on the USP forum to track my progress so everyone can get another view to how this combo works.

thanks,
 
trailer36 said:
Well after doing some reading on DCP it seems like this would be a fierce combo. Like I said, I have used just about every fat burner on the market (including ECA) and just havent gotten many results past what my diet has done for me.

CHAPS, is there any special way you are combining the two? Should I change the dosages around or just use as recommended? I think I am going to do a non-sponsored log here on the USP forum to track my progress so everyone can get another view to how this combo works.

thanks,

No need to use the non-sponsored title for your log here man, we don't play like that around here ;)
 
Hey mullet,

Thanks for the heads up. I am not much for stepping on toes or reputations so I tread diplomatically. I was just basically saying it so when I start my log people will understand I got nothing for free from you guys or dsade and would have no reason to bias my log. I have been a USP guy from the day I tried Powerfull when it first hit the shelves and love your products. That is why I am so amped about AP and DCP seems the perfect compliment for my goals.

I do have another question though. I will be doing a Crossfit type training while using theses supps. the idea here is brief, intense workouts that get the heart rate up followed by some LI cardio. The classic BB routines have got me in a rut physically and mentally. I will be drinking BCAA's during the workout and cardio to stave off muscle loss. Do you think this will work similarly to a BB style program or will it be inferior. All opinions are welcome. Here is some background for you:

-25
-6'0"
-215 lbs
-about 14-15% bf
-11 yrs training experience (with many learning experiences)
-played 4 yrs div 1 lacrosse so have been put through many different training styles

thanks for the help.
 
trailer36 said:
Hey mullet,

Thanks for the heads up. I am not much for stepping on toes or reputations so I tread diplomatically. I was just basically saying it so when I start my log people will understand I got nothing for free from you guys or dsade and would have no reason to bias my log. I have been a USP guy from the day I tried Powerfull when it first hit the shelves and love your products. That is why I am so amped about AP and DCP seems the perfect compliment for my goals.

I do have another question though. I will be doing a Crossfit type training while using theses supps. the idea here is brief, intense workouts that get the heart rate up followed by some LI cardio. The classic BB routines have got me in a rut physically and mentally. I will be drinking BCAA's during the workout and cardio to stave off muscle loss. Do you think this will work similarly to a BB style program or will it be inferior. All opinions are welcome. Here is some background for you:

-25
-6'0"
-215 lbs
-about 14-15% bf
-11 yrs training experience (with many learning experiences)
-played 4 yrs div 1 lacrosse so have been put through many different training styles

thanks for the help.

I think it depends on what type of training you respond to the best. Because you stated that the workouts are brief and intense, I imagine that the frequency and intensity are greater, but the volume is lessened? If so, I feel it should work well as I have had alot of success implementing such routines. Just remember that, IMO at least, frequency and volume are mutually exclusive unless you won the genetic lottery. I.e., like DC-Based Routines, if you are working a muscle 3 times in 11 days then sacrifice much of the volume you would normally do.

It also depends on the movements contained in the workout. This could be a high intensity/frequency focused on heavy resistance, or it may be a routine that is a half and half hypertrophy/cardiovascular routine.

Either way, you should start a log just on the training if you wish, then just interject with comments about the products. And we do not assume that you are bias here, we expect our members to give honest testimony.
 
Hey Mullet knowing how AP works and all. Would something topical like Lipoderm work in Synergy with AP (freeing up fat then having it rejected by AP). Or would it they both just work on their own. As much as AP loves to attack my lower back and love handles my most difficult area around my navel seems to be less targeted.
 
trailer36 said:
Well after doing some reading on DCP it seems like this would be a fierce combo. Like I said, I have used just about every fat burner on the market (including ECA) and just havent gotten many results past what my diet has done for me.

CHAPS, is there any special way you are combining the two? Should I change the dosages around or just use as recommended? I think I am going to do a non-sponsored log here on the USP forum to track my progress so everyone can get another view to how this combo works.

thanks,


For the AP i'll be doing 4 caps a day and the DCP will be 10caps a day for 7 days then 6-8 after that, they will work very synergistically and is imho the best non stimulant LEGAL fatloss stack available right now.
 
CHAPS,

thanks for the insight. I saw your current regimen and you are stacking some serious ****. :jaw:

On an off topic I have a question about your cycle? did you homebrew the tren or is it from a pharm company? Furthermore, 450 mg/day only comes out to about 65 g/day. Do you inject ED or EOD? Same with the prop? Also, why did you chose to run nolva on cycle as opposed to a low dose AI like letro or arimidex? just curious as I like to hear everyone's input on the cycles they run as a lot of combos work for various reasons.

Back to topic. I am trying to get a feel for who would be interested in seeing a log with DCP and AP. the goal of the log would be a recomp with a realistic hope of saving/gaining a little muscle while dropping bf. Let me know.

For the other poster who asks about what DCP is, please reference the from page of anabloic minds where it is the first ad listed.
 
trailer36 said:
CHAPS,

thanks for the insight. I saw your current regimen and you are stacking some serious ****. :jaw:

On an off topic I have a question about your cycle? did you homebrew the tren or is it from a pharm company? Furthermore, 450 mg/day only comes out to about 65 g/day. Do you inject ED or EOD? Same with the prop? Also, why did you chose to run nolva on cycle as opposed to a low dose AI like letro or arimidex? just curious as I like to hear everyone's input on the cycles they run as a lot of combos work for various reasons.

Back to topic. I am trying to get a feel for who would be interested in seeing a log with DCP and AP. the goal of the log would be a recomp with a realistic hope of saving/gaining a little muscle while dropping bf. Let me know.

For the other poster who asks about what DCP is, please reference the from page of anabloic minds where it is the first ad listed.

The test is a multi ester blend . I chose to run the Nolvadex because i have alot of it on hand, i got alot of products on sale, cabergoline, nolvadex, clenbuterol/ketotifen, T4 :) Oh and the tren is 75mg/ml 20ml bottles, i'm doing 1.5ml eod and the test is 275mg/ml 10ml bottles 1ml m/w/f.
 
I am assuming you are speaking about that spat between your BD and Alin? I have heard so many things i dont know which one is right when it comes to that whole thing but i know a lot of people are doing what you are, buying it all up. I was thinking of running a simple oral turinabol cycle (50 mg/day for 6 weeks) here in the next couple of months but i am going to give AP a go first. I am glad you like the DCP so much and I am excited to try it all out.

I would love to run tren but i dont have any sources that i trust and it would be a homebrew job and i am no chemist.

Anyway, thanks for humoring me :)
 
trailer36 said:
USP and all reps,

Which do you guys feel would be the most synergisitic fat burner to use with AP? I prefer one with a stimulant effect but I want to hear all of your opinions. With all of the fat burners out there I am sure some would be better to combine with AP than others. My goal is to use AP and "recommended fat burner" to maintain/gain muscle mass and drop bf.

Thanks guys


DCP looks solid but I'm not a Fan of TTA. Why? I'm not a fan of being bloated and cramping while dieting. I like to feel good while dieting.

I develope products based on what I want to use. Ofcourse, I will use cAMPHIBOLIC which can EASILY be converted into a VERY effective anti catabolic stimulant with the addition of caffiene. With cAMPHIBLOLIC, you get the best non stimulating Fal loss muscle preservation system that easily converts into a stimulating fat loss muscle preservation system with the SIMPLE addition of caffiene. AP and cAMPHIBOLIC is an amazing combo. Nutra Planet has it VERY VERY cheap..the cAMPHIBOLIC that is. Take advantage of that price.

Forskolin is a great Active compound with a great supporting cast. If I did not use cAMPHIBOLIC, I would use scroch from MANN sports.

On a final note, I would say try DCP with AP and then try AP with cAMPHIBOLIC and than try AP with another product from another company. I love my products, but I also understand there are other quality products on the market.

take care
 
Ya the cramping and bloat is what kept me away from using TTA before but i can honestly say i'm not bloated or cramping at all while using DCP, the potassium in it keeps you from cramping. Oh and i can definitely see a difference in hardness from just AP+Camphibolic alone, 2 caps 3 times a day is kick ass, just work your way up slowly with the servings before bed.
 
USPLabs said:
Ofcourse, I will use cAMPHIBOLIC which can EASILY be converted into a VERY effective anti catabolic stimulant with the addition of caffiene. With cAMPHIBLOLIC, you get the best non stimulating Fal loss muscle preservation system that easily converts into a stimulating fat loss muscle preservation system with the SIMPLE addition of caffiene. AP and cAMPHIBOLIC is an amazing combo. Nutra Planet has it VERY VERY cheap..the cAMPHIBOLIC that is. Take advantage of that price.


USP,

When you mention caffeine should I take both of them at the same time? Also, is it OK if I use coffee instead of actual pills. I am assuming thats OK but i want to make sure. I just found a 3/4 full bottle of CAMP that I forgot I had :).
 
trailer36 said:
USP,

When you mention caffeine should I take both of them at the same time? Also, is it OK if I use coffee instead of actual pills. I am assuming thats OK but i want to make sure. I just found a 3/4 full bottle of CAMP that I forgot I had :).

Take them together and coffee is a great choice.
 
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