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a9riter

a9riter

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I am sure that this topic has been covered, but I am new and thought I would throw it out there.

I just finished a cycle of H-Drol that I bought on ebay, and low and behold I think it was fake (I thought I had done every bit of research I could, but still got burned, live and learn).

I would like to try a new cycle in 8-10 weeks (figured I would treat my first cycle the correct way), and I looking for the best supplement to take.

I have been considering Ironflex Brawn or Epi-10, but would like to get some input from you all. Most importantly I would like to find a reputable supplier. I put on about 5 lbs during my first cycle, but I attribute that to eat better, and just more consistently. I would like to add another 5-10 lbs, and some strength.

I am 42 years old
6,1"
179 lb
Bench 215 (x4)
Squat 325 (x6)

Thanks,
 
was going to run brawn but decided to go with SD instead. but same chem; epi is epi... brawns price is cheaper

get brawn from iron flex site. fast delivery
 
Great, thanks. Was also looking at EPI-10, so I appreicate the good review.

Has anyone used Orbit nutrition or Un*****ed Supplements for product?
 
a9riter said:
Great, thanks. Was also looking at EPI-10, so I appreicate the good review.

Has anyone used Orbit nutrition or Un*****ed Supplements for product?
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epi -10.... does that mean 10mg a pill?.... look at price per mg.

orbit is legit just recived some stuff from them
 
both are good dude. you can look into celtic labs epi too, and epsitrong. just get whichever has the best deal per mg. and dont buy this **** from ebay or from private sellers on amazon. thats like asking to get robbed
 
OnionKnight said:
both are good dude. you can look into celtic labs epi too, and epsitrong. just get whichever has the best deal per mg. and dont buy this **** from ebay or from private sellers on amazon. thats like asking to get robbed
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celtic labs also claims to have a sd precurser..... i wonder if thats real
 
Thanks again for the responses on the sources. The H-drol I bought wasn't too expensive, but I hate getting ripped off, and worst part was the time I wasted going through the cycle, and preping it for it. Oh well, again I put on some weight so something came of it.

Murk01, what is the SD you are referring too?

Only other question is how Epi vs. Ultradol

Thanks again
 
a9riter said:
Thanks again for the responses on the sources. The H-drol I bought wasn't too expensive, but I hate getting ripped off, and worst part was the time I wasted going through the cycle, and preping it for it. Oh well, again I put on some weight so something came of it.

Murk01, what is the SD you are referring too?

Only other question is how Epi vs. Ultradol

Thanks again
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Epi is my favorite oral by far.
 
a9riter said:
Thanks again for the responses on the sources. The H-drol I bought wasn't too expensive, but I hate getting ripped off, and worst part was the time I wasted going through the cycle, and preping it for it. Oh well, again I put on some weight so something came of it.

Murk01, what is the SD you are referring too?

Only other question is how Epi vs. Ultradol

Thanks again
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superdrol currently banned. but im sure u can find a bottle around here.

i havent ran epi yet.
every oral is diff. depends on ur goals. sd is for mass. epi is better for a cut.
some are precursers.. id rather go with active componds like epi//sd

just wondering. have you looked up pct. and have an idea about the reasons for post cycle theripy
 
Was also curious if anyone has tried Shredded Labs or LGI brands? They seem super cheap, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

I will stop being a noob now, lol
 
you can trust lgi. its cheap because they have an exclusive deal with the one site that sells the whole line. everywhere else buys from that site

im not diggin shredded labs though. they got busted early this year/late december for selling falsely labeled products. mistake or not, it only takes one fuk up to lose my trust. especilly when theres other just as cheap companies that have been around a lot longer
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Damn I would've flipped sh*t bro.
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I didn't even realize it. I put on 5 lbs due to heavy training and a heavy increase in calories, and just figured the stuff was incredibly mild on sides (just a little acne, nothing major, could have been from change in diet even...)

As far as the refund, I just never pursued it. Didn't know who to contact, and didn't want to stress Greg over at LO.
 
DonnyG said:
I didn't even realize it. I put on 5 lbs due to heavy training and a heavy increase in calories, and just figured the stuff was incredibly mild on sides (just a little acne, nothing major, could have been from change in diet even...)

As far as the refund, I just never pursued it. Didn't know who to contact, and didn't want to stress Greg over at LO.
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Damn thats solid work there man! a good placebo is a hell of a thing! And since it was bunk i would bet you kept that 5 lbs.
 
DonnyG said:
I didn't even realize it. I put on 5 lbs due to heavy training and a heavy increase in calories, and just figured the stuff was incredibly mild on sides (just a little acne, nothing major, could have been from change in diet even...)

As far as the refund, I just never pursued it. Didn't know who to contact, and didn't want to stress Greg over at LO.
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Lol u would've put on like 15 more pounds if it was real.
 
OnionKnight, can you tell me what website for LGI you are referring too? I am looking at the Epi-10, and the cheapest I could find it is from Unrilaved Supplements, which is supposed to be legit. Thanks
 
a9riter said:
OnionKnight, can you tell me what website for LGI you are referring too? I am looking at the Epi-10, and the cheapest I could find it is from Unrilaved Supplements, which is supposed to be legit. Thanks
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Sourcing is not allowed
 
McCrew530 said:
ya its true its called celtic mass i have read that it is nice at 60mg
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Indeed, it's the "diol" precurser to SD. We're coming out with so many new goodies though. I think soon SD will be a fond memory of a simpler but less swole time...
 
nostrum420 said:
Indeed, it's the "diol" precurser to SD. We're coming out with so many new goodies though. I think soon SD will be a fond memory of a simpler but less swole time...
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Topping SD? I'm skeptical bro, but hey I like surprises unless its a chick with a dick then f*ck that lol.
 
its a rep thing lol. i remember the primordial guys used to tell everyone serms will be a thing of the past due to their otc pct products
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Topping SD? I'm skeptical bro, but hey I like surprises unless its a chick with a dick then f*ck that lol.
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I've got a non-methyl coming with an A:A assay that gives me a boner. We're also looking at a D-Bol-like hormone and an Anadrol-like hormone just to name a few. Honestly there's so much stuff on the way I almost can't keep track. There's gonna be some un-methylated Phera (desoxy-testosterone) powder available very soon for you guys to try out as well as some Dienelone powder, trest powder and 6-chloro-test powder (<--this one will take a little longer)
 
OnionKnight said:
its a rep thing lol. i remember the primordial guys used to tell everyone serms will be a thing of the past due to their otc pct products
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You won't hear any nonsense like that from me. We're looking at a D-bol-like hormone, an Anadrol-like hormone and a new version of 1-AD just to name a few.
 
nostrum420 said:
I've got a non-methyl coming with an A:A assay that gives me a boner. We're also looking at a D-Bol-like hormone and an Anadrol-like hormone just to name a few. Honestly there's so much stuff on the way I almost can't keep track. There's gonna be some un-methylated Phera (desoxy-testosterone) powder available very soon for you guys to try out as well as some Dienelone powder, trest powder and 6-chloro-test powder (<--this one will take a little longer)
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Ok I'm very interested now. Can u elaborate on the anadrol-like and dbol-like compounds?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
I'm assuming they'll b wet, but how wet?
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Hard to say for sure until people try them but if I were to take a guess based on the structural characteristics of the molecules and what we know about their scheduled analog cousins I'd guess that the Anadrol-like compound should be similar to anadrol but the D-bol like compound may be considerably drier than regular D-bol... Maybe...
 
OnionKnight said:
will they only be sold as powders? or will they sell capped phera and anadrol diols too?
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The un-methylated phera (desoxy-testosterone) will be sold as a powder for the time being. Once I play with it and see how orally available it is then we'll see about capping it. There is no Phera-diol unfortunately as far as I know there is no prohormone to phera only phera-like steroids. The anadrol-like hormone we're looking at is also not a "diol" it's just structurally very similar to anadrol. That one will almost certainly be capped.

To elaborate a little: all of the powders that are being sold are PURE hormone powders and are esterified ;)
 
nostrum420 said:
Hard to say for sure until people try them but if I were to take a guess based on the structural characteristics of the molecules and what we know about their scheduled analog cousins I'd guess that the Anadrol-like compound should be similar to anadrol but the D-bol like compound may be considerably drier than regular D-bol... Maybe...
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Hmm I'm looking forward to this.
 
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