Unanswered Best ai for hardening(already low bf)

[PARASXOS]

Hi guys.im already low bf and im looking to use an ai for a little while to have a litlle more hardened look.
Every summer im using something like nolvadren xt with good results but this time i want to use something stronger.
I have access to atd.6 bromo,or even nolva.i dont want to go to the dht route,cause of the pottential hair loss sides..
What do you suggest?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

3AD is said to not be able to back convert into estrogenic, or alopecic metabolites. So it behaves a lot like dht, with out the side effects like hair loss. Its said to enhance the rest of the stack your on as well.

as for AIs.. the ATD you have is plenty strong to play with for what you're trying to do. I personally like anastrozol but ATD has some anabolic properties as well so thats nice.

 

[Old Witch]

Well, a dht that would be hair safe is Proviron. Good for hardening and lowering shbg, not great for much else. At 100mg a day it will give that paper thin skin look like a halotestin or even more so than winstrol.

Not many people mention that.

The ATD would be a good choice, adding nolvadex would be a contest worthy hardening stack but your joints will not like it. Of course, ask any pro on the bodybuilding stage how their joints feel....

If you’re just looking for hardening an thinning of skin, there’s no reason 6 bromo and ATD couldn’t be stacked with proviron and your nolvadren xt and even nolvadex.



That all being said, it would be much smarter to add a full anabolic as well. Hexadrone or Tbol, anavar...

 

[Afi140]

Iron legion virtus is amazing for hardening. I can use it with trest but also add it to a non ph/ds stack and still see amazing hardening and leaning benefits. Much stronger than arimistane so it’s a substantial upgrade comparatively speaking.

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[ItalOne]

I would suggest a low dose of Aromasin stacked with some 7 Keto

 

[PARASXOS]

Well, a dht that would be hair safe is Proviron. Good for hardening and lowering shbg, not great for much else. At 100mg a day it will give that paper thin skin look like a halotestin or even more so than winstrol.

Not many people mention that.

The ATD would be a good choice, adding nolvadex would be a contest worthy hardening stack but your joints will not like it. Of course, ask any pro on the bodybuilding stage how their joints feel....

If you’re just looking for hardening an thinning of skin, there’s no reason 6 bromo and ATD couldn’t be stacked with proviron and your nolvadren xt and even nolvadex.



That all being said, it would be much smarter to add a full anabolic as well. Hexadrone or Tbol, anavar...

Tbh id love to add a full anabolic,the thing is im not looking into gaining any size atm,so imo it would be a waste and trouble(pct,cycle assists etc)
Can i really stack all of these?atd nolva nolvadren..?wouldnt i crush my estrogen too much?
I was looking into proviron but unfortunatetly too many people report hair loss sides with it on the indernet..i agree it would be great for what im looking for..

 

[mixedup]

Hi guys.im already low bf and im looking to use an ai for a little while to have a litlle more hardened look.
Every summer im using something like nolvadren xt with good results but this time i want to use something stronger.
I have access to atd.6 bromo,or even nolva.i dont want to go to the dht route,cause of the pottential hair loss sides..
What do you suggest?

If you have funds I would do 20mg nolv ed
1.25mg letro ex 30 days eavh

 

[ItalOne]

If you have funds I would do 20mg nolv ed
1.25mg letro ex 30 days eavh

Wtf?? That **** is dirt cheap! All those drugs just to harden up?? I would pass on that!!
Unless your in pre comp mode OVERKILL!

 

[mixedup]

Wtf?? That **** is dirt cheap! All those drugs just to harden up?? I would pass on that!!

I take it you dont compete? Using an Ai and serm a few weeks out is quite common

 

[ItalOne]

I take it you dont compete? Using an Ai and serm a few weeks out is quite common

Huh, I am the one that said this is unnecessary unless your in pre comp? Not you!!! I am well aware of pre comp prep and no I don’t compete. That has nothing to do with the question. He’s only trying to harden up nothing more.

 

[Old Witch]

Tbh id love to add a full anabolic,the thing is im not looking into gaining any size atm,so imo it would be a waste and trouble(pct,cycle assists etc)
Can i really stack all of these?atd nolva nolvadren..?wouldnt i crush my estrogen too much?
I was looking into proviron but unfortunatetly too many people report hair loss sides with it on the indernet..i agree it would be great for what im looking for..

Most old schoolers would agree that to a certain degree, most guys don’t need anabolics to gain weight, but instead their best use is for cutting and hardening.

Personally I’d say all of the above. Never really such a thing as a wasted cycle unless you don’t have a goal in mind.

 

[Old Witch]

i was under the impression that Proviron was hard on the hairline?

Not in my experience.

 

[jrock645]

Most old schoolers would agree that to a certain degree, most guys don’t need anabolics to gain weight, but instead their best use is for cutting and hardening.

Personally I’d say all of the above. Never really such a thing as a wasted cycle unless you don’t have a goal in mind.

Gaining weight and gaining lean mass are completely different things. Some of us have a tendency to get fat eating in surplus, which generally requires eating a good bit of carbs. I follow some keto guys on insta that eat keto in surplus, but I see what they eat and I dunno how they eat 3k+ calories a day of that stuff everyday.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Like said above, you can't go wrong with Virtus by Iron Legion.

 

[PARASXOS]

Nolva dosage for hardening?10 or 20 mg ed?

 

[nikosktm]

good stack also is aromasin (low dose )with reduce xt... dont use nolvadex just for hardening.. nolvadex is hepatotoxic

 

[thebigt]

Iron legion virtus is amazing for hardening. I can use it with trest but also add it to a non ph/ds stack and still see amazing hardening and leaning benefits. Much stronger than arimistane so it’s a substantial upgrade comparatively speaking.

Virtus by Iron Legion

Arm yourself against estrogen and reach the peak of your physique with Virtus by Iron Legion. Same Day Shipping! Order now!

www.strongsupplementshop.com

rob says new batch is going to be ready this coming week...I need some!!!

 

[Renew1]

Nolva dosage for hardening?10 or 20 mg ed?

Don't run Nolva to harden.

 

[nikosktm]

Don't run Nolva to harden.

i agree...

 

[jameschoi]

rob says new batch is going to be ready this coming week...I need some!!!

any coupon codes for virtus

 

[thebigt]

any coupon codes for virtus

THEBIGT gets you 25% off at ironlegion.com

 

[muddertougher]

Get some 6 bromo

 

[Tight1]

Yeah don't use nolva, it messes with us more than most people realise. Keep that for PCT when you really need it.
Aromasin is the way with Reduce XT, a great shout above.