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BarryScott

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What differences are there between tbol, halodrol, pmag, mechabol in people's experiences? Which of them would you recommend over others?
 
Halodrol is a ph to tbol if I remember correctly- sobid go tbol over halo....not familiar with the others enough - gettin in for info
 
Halodrol is a ph to tbol if I remember correctly- sobid go tbol over halo....not familiar with the others enough - gettin in for info

I wonder what one would be harder on the liver though? I hear tbol is pretty rough on liver and heart but would something that needed a 1 step conversion be harsher?
 
I wonder what one would be harder on the liver though? I hear tbol is pretty rough on liver and heart but would something that needed a 1 step conversion be harsher?

Conversion doesn't really need to be considered, as far as organ stress goes. It is about how each individual compound affects the organs.
 
I thought halodrol was an active steroid in its own right and only partially converted to tbol (got 20% in my head for some reason). Could be wrong though.
 
I thought halodrol was an active steroid in its own right and only partially converted to tbol (got 20% in my head for some reason). Could be wrong though.

Yeah..
From what I've read, it is probably even less than that.
 
Pmag is the ph to mechabol if I remember correctly. It’s alright, nothing great. I’d rather use... just about anything else. And that goes for both. They kind of suck.
 
Tbol is probably the clearest winner here. For bodybuilding anyway. I see pmag and mechabol used by powerlifters sometimes. Mainly mechabol.
 
Pmag is the ph to mechabol if I remember correctly. It’s alright, nothing great. I’d rather use... just about anything else. And that goes for both. They kind of suck.

Did you like Tbol?
A lot of guys have made good reports about it.
 
Did you like Tbol?
A lot of guys have made good reports about it.

Well I imagine I would but I haven’t used it. I was defaulting it as the winner since mechabol and pmag kinda suck and hdrol is “weaker” and they’re all equally illegal.
 
Id thought tbok was relatively mild comparitively... no?

Supposed to be GAINZ like dbol and the sides of anavar. Obviously that’s not true at all. Best I could say based on what real people who really used it said, it’s like anavar without the leaning and with better size gains. So yeah, relatively mild.
 
Well I imagine I would but I haven’t used it. I was defaulting it as the winner since mechabol and pmag kinda suck and hdrol is “weaker” and they’re all equally illegal.

I just figured that you probably had.
I put it at the top of that list too, although I haven't used it yet. (Tbol made it to #1 on my 'next to-run' list 2 or 3 times, but got bumped)
 
I just figured that you probably had.
I put it at the top of that list too, although I haven't used it yet. (Tbol made it to #1 on my 'next to-run' list 2 or 3 times, but got bumped)

See, for me it’s not really at the top of stuff I haven’t tried that I’d probably like. For me it’s about time travel. I want to use stuff that was never in style at the same time that I never ran together before. But first I have to re pop my healed cherry.
 
The way I used to do it was:

What did they use thirty years ago?
What are they doing now?
What’s probably the next big thing?
Stack em.
 
Well I imagine I would but I haven’t used it. I was defaulting it as the winner since mechabol and pmag kinda suck and hdrol is “weaker” and they’re all equally illegal.

How do pmag and mechabol suck exactly? Also what's the reason for powerlifters using them rather than bodybuilders? More androgenic and less anabolic?
 
For some reason I thought Hdrol was the diene form of tbol. I have ran both and I don’t really find a huge difference between them. I think at the appropriate doses they are pretty comparable. I think you need a slightly lower dose of tbol than hdrol to be effective, something like 40-60mg tbol is roughly 75-100mg hdrol. Hdrol used to be so cheap it really didn’t matter that you might need to pop an extra tab. Now it seems like it sells for close to what you could just pick up some tbol for if you have access. Never run pmag or it’s active steroid counterpart... which is clostebol (spelling?) if I’m not mistaken.
 
I was mistaken, the diol not diene form of turnibol. But I could be remembering incorrectly, I don’t know enough chemistry to actually figure it out on my own lol
 
For some reason I thought Hdrol was the diene form of tbol. I have ran both and I don’t really find a huge difference between them. I think at the appropriate doses they are pretty comparable. I think you need a slightly lower dose of tbol than hdrol to be effective, something like 40-60mg tbol is roughly 75-100mg hdrol. Hdrol used to be so cheap it really didn’t matter that you might need to pop an extra tab. Now it seems like it sells for close to what you could just pick up some tbol for if you have access. Never run pmag or it’s active steroid counterpart... which is clostebol (spelling?) if I’m not mistaken.
That's very interesting...last time I ran hdrol I threw it in with my "leftovers" just for fun. Couldn't believe the progress and lean weight gain I was getting - dropped everything and realized hdrol was doing 90% of the heavy lifting. Going to throw in a legit run of it soon - really blown away with how well it did though
 
What differences are there between tbol, halodrol, pmag, mechabol in people's experiences? Which of them would you recommend over others?

I’m actually interested in this and surprised you didn’t get much repose. I’ve used Hdrol abs Tbol and looking at Mechabol. Tbol is great stuff
 
What was the side effect difference between Tbol and Hdrol mate?

Both good in terms of effect but got more out of Tbol as lower and seemed to work faster. Main thing I noticed was spike in bp, so going to try Mechabol as read it’s very similar to Tbol and I know people in UGL industry and not sure on the current quality of Tbol (I’m the UK)
 
Both good in terms of effect but got more out of Tbol as lower and seemed to work faster. Main thing I noticed was spike in bp, so going to try Mechabol as read it’s very similar to Tbol and I know people in UGL industry and not sure on the current quality of Tbol (I’m the UK)

Yeah I'm thinking along the same lines. That's the same reason I'm looking at mecha or lgd with my trt instead of Tbol because of the issue around bunk stuff with Ugl's....although it doesn't make much business sense. Am thinking of using 50mg of mecha and seeing how it treats me with the trt.
 
Yeah I'm thinking along the same lines. That's the same reason I'm looking at mecha or lgd with my trt instead of Tbol because of the issue around bunk stuff with Ugl's....although it doesn't make much business sense. Am thinking of using 50mg of mecha and seeing how it treats me with the trt.

Halo is nice but I see little use for it unless I’m not comfortable confident in the Tbol available. I think I’ll run Mech (in stack) or a kick start to my Test/Primo/Mast or see what the mech can do then start this after to continue the gains
 
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