Beginner's guide to anabolics

[elo76]

Guys,

Do you think we need to make some sort of compilation of information that we constantly answer every day?

I mean...I have to tell someone that Arimistane does nothing for estrogen every other day. The problem is then they want to argue about it until we get more than one member to post the same answer. We are just trying to help them and someone is really going to mess themselves up if that's all they have on hand.

Another one is dosing and cycle length of andros. Most come in here wanting to run some low dosed worthless cycle. Then we try to steer them in the right direction to make a worth while cycle. Again...we have to argue the point.

Another is running osta during pct. Again...we have to argue the point.

So...what's everyone's thoughts? Something worthwhile?

 

[Joe smo]

It’s also a good idea to take something like Ostarine during PCT. SARMs like Ostarine and LGD4033 do not work in the same mechanism as Hormones in relation to endogenous hormonal shut down. There is no way either of these SARMs would hinder the PCT process. PCT aims to restore gonadotropins, in particular LH which has been shutdown. These SARMs do not have a direct effect on the HPTA and do not influence LH levels to any significant degree. SARMs role in Testosterone suppression can be due to several unknown and unresearched factors, such localised androgen receptor occupancy negative feedback, and/or inhibition of 3β-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase which is involved in the Cholesterol-pregnenolone metabolic pathways that produces testosterone, and/or elevation of Estrogen:Testosterone ratio

 

[Joe smo]

take it for what its worth, I personally don't use it in my PCT but others swear by it.

 

[DennisC1986]

I agree. The "do I really need a SERM for my pct" is another one

 

[Cgkone]

The ostarine in pct seems to still be up for debate.
Actually some members say PCT is over rated for some milder cycles.
Again we have to first establish FACT

 

[solidsnake]

There’s too many ongoing debates to set up a sticky on most things imo

 

[booneman77]

there used to be 3-4 REALLY great "guides" on here. andros, basic cycles, pct, etc... over the years they got filled with trash tho and half the good info just got lost in the mess or the thread got closed or removed due to someone being a dik.

Theres no reason to bother starting a thread with all the good stuff in it because no matter what, stupid people and trolls will post a zillion things in there to ruin it (like post #2 in this thread haha) or the people that should read it will just ignore it and still ask the same dumb questions ha. There's hundreds of stellar books, articles, and reputable free and easily available sources for info and somehow nobody seems able to find those so why would another thread be different...

Is it a good idea? Of course! but it never works out as planned...As Ron White says... you can't fix stupid.

 

[Nac]

I think this would be about as successful as a "Beginners guide on who to vote for". I mean, in this instance here who gets to be the arbiter on the content of this guide?

Wanna take drugs? Do your own research of ALL the opinions. Then take responsibility for your choices.

 

[solidsnake]

This

 

[solidsnake]

there used to be 3-4 REALLY great "guides" on here. andros, basic cycles, pct, etc... over the years they got filled with trash tho and half the good info just got lost in the mess or the thread got closed or removed due to someone being a dik.

Theres no reason to bother starting a thread with all the good stuff in it because no matter what, stupid people and trolls will post a zillion things in there to ruin it (like post #2 in this thread haha) or the people that should read it will just ignore it and still ask the same dumb questions ha. There's hundreds of stellar books, articles, and reputable free and easily available sources for info and somehow nobody seems able to find those so why would another thread be different...

Is it a good idea? Of course! but it never works out as planned...As Ron White says... you can't fix stupid.

I remember yates84 guide to sarms was great until it ended up with a million posts on it and everything got lost amongst the junk. If Sticky’s are created they should be locked

 

[The Express 42]

It’s also a good idea to take something like Ostarine during PCT. SARMs like Ostarine and LGD4033 do not work in the same mechanism as Hormones in relation to endogenous hormonal shut down. There is no way either of these SARMs would hinder the PCT process. PCT aims to restore gonadotropins, in particular LH which has been shutdown. These SARMs do not have a direct effect on the HPTA and do not influence LH levels to any significant degree. SARMs role in Testosterone suppression can be due to several unknown and unresearched factors, such localised androgen receptor occupancy negative feedback, and/or inhibition of 3β-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase which is involved in the Cholesterol-pregnenolone metabolic pathways that produces testosterone, and/or elevation of Estrogen:Testosterone ratio

Right here is a prime example of why this thread will fail hahaha sounds like something joe smo would say some people just don’t listen to reason, let them be. The trial and error period is not fun for anyone

 

[Nac]

If Sticky’s are created they should be locked

Aye, but therein lies the conundrum.

Locking them keeps them manageable and uncluttered, but it also stifles the free-flow of information. Which then means any objections or new studies etc get posted in the general forum...so youre initial goal is somewhat unsuccessful anyway.

 

[elo76]

Ok....guess we will continue to do what we do. Try to help

 

[Cgkone]

I think the 5mg osta in pct is debatable.
I don't pct I won't take osta ever again.
But 5mg with Serm may beneficial.
I think Chados is going to try it and get bloods.

 

[Cgkone]

I think only set in stone facts can be locked.
Low dose ostarine isnt even old enough to be locked in as a negative.
Opposite of a SERM after cycle.
Which can be locked as fact.

 

[Cgkone]

But the second post I agree is wrong.
They can and do cause shutdown ad regular dosage

 

[Chados]

I think the 5mg osta in pct is debatable.
I don't pct I won't take osta ever again.
But 5mg with Serm may beneficial.
I think Chados is going to try it and get bloods.

I'm on it, just hope I can get bloods in Argentina .. I'm at the airport now leaving for two months. I have done a 4 week osta cycle pct at anabolic section. Just giving my take on the visual effects and how I felt during pct so check it out.