Baseball Thread 2009

Spoken like a National League fan. (Braves, right?)

I hear ya broseph. I don't think the All-Star game should decide homefield for the WS either.
 
H8duke said:
Nothing more than a popularity contest.
What's even worse is the winner gets homefield in the WS.
That's flat out IGNORANT!
The team with the overall winning record should have homefield.Like it use to be.
You could have a wild card team who barely won 80 games end up with homefield over possibly a team with 100 w's!

Thank Bud Selig for that brain-fart:damnit:

NO way homefield in the WS should be determined by a popularity contest in July:damnit:
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Agree 100%. Home field advantage isn't necessarily an advantage anyways. The Rays had hf advantage last year and we all know how that ended up. Regardless, the team with the better record at the time of the World Series should have hf advantage.
 
JW32Hoops said:
Spoken like a National League fan. (Braves, right?)

I hear ya broseph. I don't think the All-Star game should decide homefield for the WS either.
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Actually, on second thought, I don't find the chop or the Braves or their fans all that annoying. To be honest, after years of hating them and thinking of them as a "rival" I've found them to be an afterthought now, with all my disdain going toward Philly and NYY.
 
JW32Hoops said:
Actually, on second thought, I don't find the chop or the Braves or their fans all that annoying. To be honest, after years of hating them and thinking of them as a "rival" I've found them to be an afterthought now, with all my disdain going toward Philly and NYY.
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+1,000,000,000 to hating Philly and the Yankme's.
 
This is why I hate Jeter and the Yankees. Fuking crybabies. The idiot attempted to steal 3rd with 0 outs. First of all it's a horrible move. If you're going to try it you better make it almost standing up.

Umpire responds to Jeter's comments about missed tag

John Hirschbeck, who was critical of fellow umpire Marty Foster's explanation to Derek Jeter(notes) Monday at Yankee Stadium, added more fuel to the fire Tuesday night at Citi Field, according to an account in the New York Post.

The Post reported that when Foster called Jeter out trying to steal third Monday against the Blue Jays at Yankee Stadium in the first inning with no outs, Jeter said the explanation he got from Foster was that third baseman Scott Rolen(notes) didn't have to tag Jeter because the ball beat a sliding Jeter to the bag.

Last night at Citi Field, where he worked the Mets-Dodgers game, Hirschbeck back-tracked a bit, the Post reported.

Hirschbeck spoke to Foster Tuesday and got a different version. Here's what Hirschbeck said Foster told Jeter at the time: "The ball beat you, and I had him tagging you. I don't see a problem with that. Sometimes when tempers flare, you don't hear everything that's said."

Source: New York Post
 
Droppingloads said:
This is why I hate Jeter and the Yankees. Fuking crybabies. The idiot attempted to steal 3rd with 0 outs. First of all it's a horrible move. If you're going to try it you better make it almost standing up.

Umpire responds to Jeter's comments about missed tag

John Hirschbeck, who was critical of fellow umpire Marty Foster's explanation to Derek Jeter(notes) Monday at Yankee Stadium, added more fuel to the fire Tuesday night at Citi Field, according to an account in the New York Post.

The Post reported that when Foster called Jeter out trying to steal third Monday against the Blue Jays at Yankee Stadium in the first inning with no outs, Jeter said the explanation he got from Foster was that third baseman Scott Rolen(notes) didn't have to tag Jeter because the ball beat a sliding Jeter to the bag.

Last night at Citi Field, where he worked the Mets-Dodgers game, Hirschbeck back-tracked a bit, the Post reported.

Hirschbeck spoke to Foster Tuesday and got a different version. Here's what Hirschbeck said Foster told Jeter at the time: "The ball beat you, and I had him tagging you. I don't see a problem with that. Sometimes when tempers flare, you don't hear everything that's said."

Source: New York Post
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As much as I'd like for Jeter to fail miserably at everything he does, I saw the replay and he really was safe. He actually made a very good slide into 3rd.
 
TimberLakers said:
Think they'll ever evaluate moving him to the outfield to finish his career? His lateral movement and defense has been lacking as of late.

Is this 3 year deal supposed to be his last?
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Yeah,
He's signed through 2012,with a vesting option for 2013.
 
It doesn't matter if he was actually safe or not. It's the play itself. A player like Jeter should know better than to steal 3rd with 0 outs. If you go for it you better make it 11 out of 10 times. The throw beat him by like 3 feet. 99% of the time you're going to be called out if the ball beats you on a play like that.
 
Droppingloads said:
It doesn't matter if he was actually safe or not. It's the play itself. A player like Jeter should know better than to steal 3rd with 0 outs. If you go for it you better make it 11 out of 10 times. The throw beat him by like 3 feet. 99% of the time you're going to be called out if the ball beats you on a play like that.
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Agree.
 
Will - have you ever read this book?

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I think I may have asked you before. If you haven't read it...DEFINITELY pick it up. I read it so fast on my honeymoon I had to ration it so it would last longer. Awesome stories about the greatest team ever assembled.
 
Droppingloads said:
It doesn't matter if he was actually safe or not. It's the play itself. A player like Jeter should know better than to steal 3rd with 0 outs. If you go for it you better make it 11 out of 10 times. The throw beat him by like 3 feet. 99% of the time you're going to be called out if the ball beats you on a play like that.
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I'm not defending Jeter by any means, but it absolutely matters if he was safe or not. If he's safe he's safe. If he's out he's out. Thats how stealing works.

Of course, the majority of the time if the ball beats him there he will be called out but that's only because of lazy umpires.

Btw, what's wrong with stealing 3rd with no outs?
 
Inge and Victorino won the fan ballot for the final All-Star roster spots.

I'm bummed, was rooting for Kinsler and Sandoval.
 
Jonathan Sanchez pitches a No-No against the Padres ...........

Woulda been a perfect game if not for an error by Juan Uribe in the 8th:squareeyed:
 
Saw the last 3 outs of the no-no at a sports bar here in Diego.

As for the Church/Francouer swap, I'm pissed. I feel like the only reason we did this is because Jerry Manuel and Ryan Church didn't get along. He could bat just as well, throw just as well and field just as well as Jeff Francouer, so to swap them (intra-division) seems pointless and desparate to me.
 
Whitesnake said:
Jonathan Sanchez pitches a No-No against the Padres ...........

Woulda been a perfect game if not for an error by Juan Uribe in the 8th:squareeyed:
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Saw that sh*t. I was gunning for a Sanchez perfecto, as I'm sure Sanchez was also. I'm sure Uribe felt like sh*t for effing it up. A no-no is still damn good though.
 
JW32Hoops said:
As for the Church/Francouer swap, I'm pissed. I feel like the only reason we did this is because Jerry Manuel and Ryan Church didn't get along. He could bat just as well, throw just as well and field just as well as Jeff Francouer, so to swap them (intra-division) seems pointless and desparate to me.
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Yeah I heard some mumbles and grumbles about how Manuel wasn't very fond of Church and vice versa. Francoeur does seem to have better numbers aside from batting avg though. I think this trade will make or break the rest of his years in MLB.
 
Francouer is aggressive, which I like, but there's a fine line between aggressive and reckless. He's still young, if he can learn some plate discipline, he can be a helluva player. Hope he pans out.
 
Here's a fair question: Who would've ever thought the entire Rays infield would be in the AS game? Answer: Nobody.

Absolutely amazing, especially considering Zobrist was a superutility player vying for a spot on the roster at the beginning of the season.
 
Adam23294 said:
Any predictions on the HR Derby winner? I'm putting my eggs in Pujols' basket.
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That's a safe bet, considering he's leading MLB in HR so far and he'll be batting in his home park. I could see Ryan Howard challenging him. The NL's HR Derby lineup is so sick.
 
Adam23294 said:
I'm not defending Jeter by any means, but it absolutely matters if he was safe or not. If he's safe he's safe. If he's out he's out. Thats how stealing works.

Of course, the majority of the time if the ball beats him there he will be called out but that's only because of lazy umpires.

Btw, what's wrong with stealing 3rd with no outs?
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A coaching mantra has always been never to make the first or third out at 3rd.
 
JW32Hoops said:
That's a safe bet, considering he's leading MLB in HR so far and he'll be batting in his home park. I could see Ryan Howard challenging him. The NL's HR Derby lineup is so sick.
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Dude the NL lineup is stacked; Pujols, Howard, Fielder, and Gonzalez. AL doesn't seem as strong this year. Granted Pena is leading the AL in HR's and Mauer added power to his swing this year, but I've never thought of Inge as a slugger and Cruz is just....well.....Cruz.
 
Puttin' my coin on Ryan Howard even though Pujols is the 2:1 favorite...

I just like that effortless uppercut he's got..........kinda like a fatboy version of Griffey :laugh:
 
I wouldn't mind seeing Adrian Gonzalez go off tonight. He's a beast, but gets no pub because he's on the dismal Pads. Won't ever start an All-Star Game at 1B either as long as Pujols is in the NL.
 
I would have loved to see Griffey Jr. have a go at it. Even if he's not in his prime, he has the smoothest swing of any left-handers ever, in my opinion.
Nelson Cruz was hitting some bombs!
 
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