Bam Bam Tries Vicaine

[BamBam0319]

bump.. did you ever try 3 caps on empty stomach?

Never got a chance to. Mike was going to send a 3-cap sample back in July but it never ended up happening.

 

[muree]

hmmn.. thats disappointing. tried this supplement today and strangely didnt notice anything with 2 caps except for my feet getting warm and me being a bit relaxed. didnt notice any super focus or productivity outside of the norm.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Never got a chance to. Mike was going to send a 3-cap sample back in July but it never ended up happening.

I forgot about it--sorry brother. That was right at the time we lost our merchant account and I had a lot on my mind, such as trying to prevent the company from falling to pieces. LOL.

If you pm me your addy before 2 pm Eastern Time I will put them in the mail today, as I will be going to the post office anyway.

 

[Mike Arnold]

Forgot about it.

The first couple hours provide OPIOID effects. After that wears off you will feel the other stimulatory components, but these compounds are not stimulants in the traditional sense of the word, as they do not affect the nervous system (caffeine and theacrine do, but I have very little caffeine in Vicaine and theacrine has only mild effects on the nervous system). Therefore, Vicaine is NOT going to provide a high energy, jump out of your seat type of stimulation. It is more of a mental stimulation. It will cause you to be more alter, focused, and aware, while increasing all aspects of cognitive function.

Try 3 caps. There is a reason the minimum dose is 2 caps. There are literally 50-75+ reviews on this site--the vast majority of which are EXCELLENT. This is not directed specifically at you, but I never understood people that buy products without bothering to read what they do (e.g product description). Vicaine is called an "opioid-stimulant" complex for a reason. 2 caps is the "threshold" dose for experiencing opioid effects, while 3 caps is more pronounced.
Vicaine PM provides an even more powerful opioid effect. With regular Vicaine, 3 caps provides a fairly potent opioid effects for the first few hours, followed by an increase in mental simulation. Depending on how sensitive someone is to opioids, the opioid in Vicaine may overpower it's mental stimulatory effect for the first couple hours, but after the opioid wears off the other effects will be felt more clearly.

Here is an example of a "typical" Vicaine review. This one is from this thread--post #49.

"I started taking Vicaine 3 months ago and have found it to be one of the most effective products I've ever tried. It does what it says, bottom line. With that being said, you need to do what the bottle says and take days off. I follow a 1 day off 2 day on when really needed. Or every other 2nd or third day regularly. With that protocol you get a fair value for such an effective product. I noticed early on the the stim effect becomes week to non-existent when taken several days in a row. What is the ideal time frame for your receptors to reset for the stims in Vicaine?"

THERE ARE 100'S MORE REVIEWS JUST LIKE THIS ONE ALL OVER THE WEB. IN FACT, MOST REVIEWS ARE SIMILAR TO THIS.


Bottom line. If you don't like drugs like oxycodone or hydrocodone (Percocet and Vicodin), don't buy Vicaine. Some people just don't like the feeling those compounds provide, while others love it. I have been very clear from the very beginning that if someone doesn't like opioids, this product is not for them. This is especially true of Vicaine PM.

 

[muree]

The first couple hours provide OPIOID effects. After that wears off you will feel the other stimulatory components, but these compounds are not stimulants in the traditional sense of the word, as they do not affect the nervous system (caffeine and theacrine do, but I have very little caffeine in Vicaine and theacrine has only mild effects on the nervous system). Therefore, Vicaine is NOT going to provide a high energy, jump out of your seat type of stimulation. It is more of a mental stimulation. It will cause you to be more alter, focused, and aware, while increasing all aspects of cognitive function. , but NO. Rather,

Try 3 caps. There is a reason the minimum dose is 2 caps. There are literally 50-75+ reviews on this site--the vast majority of which are EXCELLENT. This is not directed specifically at you, but I never understood people that buy products without bothering to read what they do (e.g product description). Vicaine is called an "opioid-stimulant" complex for a reason. 2 caps is the "threshold" dose for experiencing opioid effects, while 3 caps is more pronounced.
Vicaine PM provides an even more powerful opioid effect. With regular Vicaine, 3 caps provides a fairly potent opioid effects for the first few hours, followed by an increase in mental simulation. Depending on how sensitive someone is to opioids, the opioid in Vicaine may overpower it's mental stimulatory effect for the first couple hours, but after the opioid wears off the other effects will be felt more clearly.

Here is an example of a "typical" Vicaine review. This one is from this thread--post #49.

"I started taking Vicaine 3 months ago and have found it to be one of the most effective products I've ever tried. It does what it says, bottom line. With that being said, you need to do what the bottle says and take days off. I follow a 1 day off 2 day on when really needed. Or every other 2nd or third day regularly. With that protocol you get a fair value for such an effective product. I noticed early on the the stim effect becomes week to non-existent when taken several days in a row. What is the ideal time frame for your receptors to reset for the stims in Vicaine?"

THERE ARE 100'S MORE REVIEWS JUST LIKE THIS ONE ALL OVER THE WEB. IN FACT, MOST REVIEWS ARE SIMILAR TO THIS.


Bottom line. If you don't like drugs like oxycodone or hydrocodone (Percocet and Vicodin), don't buy Vicaine. Some people just don't like the feeling those compounds provide, while others love it. I have been very clear from the very beginning that if someone doesn't like opioids, this product is not for them. This is especially true of Vicaine PM.

appreciate the detailed response. i was not trying to bash the product, but was simply stating the effects it had on me. i've never tried drugs like oxy so was coming in with an expectation of like a preworkout kinda boost from vicaine but got more of the floating/relaxed feeling.

 

[rtmilburn]

appreciate the detailed response. i was not trying to bash the product, but was simply stating the effects it had on me. i've never tried drugs like oxy so was coming in with an expectation of like a preworkout kinda boost from vicaine but got more of the floating/relaxed feeling.

Vicaine is not a pre-work like buzz feeling product. It's energy is smooth, clean, and barely noticeable if you not paying to much attention. The floating/relaxed feeling you described is much more accurate description of the product and it's very pleasant. I also feel that it temporarily takes away emotional attachments towards thoughts, and allows you to just react, go with the flow, and relieves nearly all stress; which in turn allows you to make much more rational decisions.

 

[Mike Arnold]

appreciate the detailed response. i was not trying to bash the product, but was simply stating the effects it had on me. i've never tried drugs like oxy so was coming in with an expectation of like a preworkout kinda boost from vicaine but got more of the floating/relaxed feeling.

As far as pre-training goes, it seems that people either LOVE it or don't like it at all when it comes to pre-workout use. Most of the people who love it are those who do NOT like CNS stims, but they love opioids. Opioids can affect people very differently. Some people say they just put them to sleep, while others say it gives them an energy boost. These later group are usually those who say Vicaine is the best pre-workout product they have ever used...and I have seen at least 50-60 people publicly say this...repeatedly. Some others say they don't like it at all hen used before training. This just illustrates how differently people can respond to compounds such as this.

 

[muree]

As far as pre-training goes, it seems that people either LOVE it or don't like it at all when it comes to pre-workout use. Most of the people who love it are those who do NOT like CNS stims, but they love opioids. Opioids can affect people very differently. Some people say they just put them to sleep, while others say it gives them an energy boost. These later group are usually those who say Vicaine is the best pre-workout product they have ever used...and I have seen at least 50-60 people publicly say this...repeatedly. Some others say they don't like it at all hen used before training. This just illustrates how differently people can respond to compounds such as this.

got it. I am from the 2nd group that gets very mellow on vicaine. am trying 3 caps today and will continue to use it on a weekly once basis. Dont want to derail this thread anymore with my questions. thanks for all responses.