Mike Arnold
Board Sponsor
Our exemestane is excellent. You will not be disappointed. That I can guarantee you.
Bad experience with board sponsors
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MrManlet
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Shill much bro? Why are you so invested in the board sponsors? No company is 100% and if you think they are then you’re a shill being paid to advertise for them. That’s how you come off. Why would I go out of my way to discredit a sponsor? The only reason would be to advertise my own brand which I’m not doing. I made this thread cuz I was looking for a reputable source to buy from and was looking at the board sponsors however was concerned because I’ve gotten bunk stuff before... wtf are u getting so mad about? Oh wait is it cuz you’re a rep?
Curiousmonkey
New member
Thanks!
Renew1
Legend
I'm a Big fan of PRE right now, but everyone should be able to tell the truth about their experiences.
I was a member of another board for years, that put out a LOT of amazing products...but occasionally one would be bunk. I got one that everyone was raving about, and it did absolutely nothing for me. I reported it honestly and objectively on the board, and got slammed (including by the Administrator). I called out the Admin ON THE BOARD, and questioned why in the world he would feel the need to slam me for reporting the truth (he could look at my extensive purchase records).
..and surprisingly, I did not get banned. LOL.
That board, and it's Administrator are both now gone...and that product no longer exists in any form... because it was bunk.
I was a member of another board for years, that put out a LOT of amazing products...but occasionally one would be bunk. I got one that everyone was raving about, and it did absolutely nothing for me. I reported it honestly and objectively on the board, and got slammed (including by the Administrator). I called out the Admin ON THE BOARD, and questioned why in the world he would feel the need to slam me for reporting the truth (he could look at my extensive purchase records).
..and surprisingly, I did not get banned. LOL.
That board, and it's Administrator are both now gone...and that product no longer exists in any form... because it was bunk.
MrManlet
Active member
Thank you renew. Now I’ll say this again for the 3rd time. I am NOT saying that PRE is a scammer or gives out bunk **** all the time. I AM saying that I got bunk ****. So while the company might give out legitimate product 99% of the time, I got bunk ****. And yes I have some nerve to complain because they stepped up and gave me the bottle for FREE but they still gave me a bottle that was not effective which I’m reporting.. so all the reps and shills back the fuk off. I took long to report it because I kind of dropped it cuz PRE was kinda new (atleast I think) and I didn’t spend money on it so I just dropped it and took my business else where. I’m posting it now because I’m looking for a source and wanted to see if the board sponsors were g2g. Is that alright you PMSing biaatches?(directed at whoever had the nerve to get mad and pissy about this)
SkRaw85
Legend
Shill out brah. You roid ragin?
Geoffr
Active member
He’s mad brah!
I have never seen anyone so salty and rage over getting free product. Glad to know I can go to this guy for independent lab testing and within a week he can come back with the results. Very impressive bub
MrManlet
Active member
^id say you’re the one that’s mad, “brah”
MrManlet
Active member
“We only have the lab tests given to us by suppliers, we have had no reason to question their legitimacy by 3rd party testing; but we can assure you we do no such thing. Our Silda-V is Sildenafil Citrate and our Tadalafil Citrate is well...Tadalafil Citrate
Enter into our giveaway and we'll add you to the applicants for Tadalafil Citrate”
Quote from PRE himself on anabolic minds... they don’t or atleast weren’t doing 3rd party testing when I got from them... sooo... yea
Enter into our giveaway and we'll add you to the applicants for Tadalafil Citrate”
Quote from PRE himself on anabolic minds... they don’t or atleast weren’t doing 3rd party testing when I got from them... sooo... yea
Geoffr
Active member
Are you done?
Cgkone
Well-known member
Could be. But I think they test the batch first
MrManlet
Active member
Cgkone, look at my last post... I quoted PRE as saying they DONT test products, they just trust that their suppliers are giving them legitimate product because they haven’t been steered wrong yet... so the possibility of me getting bunk product is reasonable and the haters can fuk off
Cgkone
Well-known member
Easy killer....nobody is hating.
I'd say getting ancillaries is one of the easiest things to do. I've literally gone through a dozen places before I found my fav. None were bunk.
I'm sure MA will take care of you
If not......the shill list has been good to thousands of people.
My RC didn't pay that site to move them up the list. Negative reviews are posted just like posit I've ones.
netflixNchill
Well-known member
I remember you doing the same thing to IMR on their exem, and they're a vet in this industry. So you said theirs was fake and then another sponsor, who gave you the product for free. If they had any inclination that it was bunk/cut, don't you think they would've just shut up. Heres another question, these guys don't buy 10g's at a time, don't you think just ONE other person would have spoke out about any of their products. I mean chit, this is a perfect place for everyone to voice their opinions and you don't see another complaint....anywhere. You do realize how many people use PRE, right? What are the chances that you, who was already complaining about a legit research company's Exem (IMR), got another bunk product from a company (PRE) who very well sold bottles from that same exact Exem batch, but yet no other "This exem doesn't work, I want my money back" Its been a nice long 7 months... why hasn't anyone spoke up?
We know the admin doesn't cover for PRE, because this thread would've been removed a while ago.
Could it be that like most people, you pushed the limits of your aromatizing compounds and waited too late to fix the estrogen? (because I believe I asked twice what you were running during that cycle and at what dosages)
Do me a favor and look at who has reps/marketers and then see who is nice and quiet and lets customer feedback do the talking, I can't say I've seen Ripper give out a code anywhere here or elsewhere for PRE. He's the most quiet rep I've ever seen! lol wheres my discount code Ripper
We know the admin doesn't cover for PRE, because this thread would've been removed a while ago.
Could it be that like most people, you pushed the limits of your aromatizing compounds and waited too late to fix the estrogen? (because I believe I asked twice what you were running during that cycle and at what dosages)
Do me a favor and look at who has reps/marketers and then see who is nice and quiet and lets customer feedback do the talking, I can't say I've seen Ripper give out a code anywhere here or elsewhere for PRE. He's the most quiet rep I've ever seen! lol wheres my discount code Ripper
MrManlet
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And if you would’ve looked you’d of seen that IMR was removed as a sponsor before I even bought from them. Further more if you did any MORE research you’d see that IMR died off pretty much around the time I ordered from them. No more reviews on their/ANY other site since 7/2017. Also, when I ordered from PRE they were just beginning. Who’s to say how their stock was, how much they stocked up on what and if they were testing/trying sources at the time...
MrManlet
Active member
I’m not looking to be compensated for this as I didn’t pay anything... I’m just reporting that I got an Exemestane product that didn’t work from a board sponsor... and I think 25mg of Exemestane would be able to handle a 1 andro/4 andro/Epi-Andro cycle I was running. And when I switched to another brand.... holy crap guess what, it started working
MrManlet
Active member
It’s just like going out to eat and can come down to human error... I love going to 5 guys when I wanna treat myself for a burger.. they always have delicious burgers... but guess what? I’ve gotten bad burgers from there... is that dumbed down enough for you? Maybe whoever was working that day didn’t correctly heat and suspend the product enough to keep it stable... maybe they accidentally put the wrong chemical in it? Maybe they didn’t put in any at all? Nothing is 100%. And the fact that certain people refuse to believe that a company is not 100% screams out shill. You’re making your company look bad.
Geoffr
Active member
I thought you were done champ? You sure that E is in check, you’re still acting like a female. Maybe both of your sources were bunk! Anyways I have nothing but great things to say about the board sponsors, customer service and the products can’t be beat! #blessed
In the future why don’t you reach out to your source, if it’s a board sponsor I gurentee you they will make it right, you just went the wrong way about the whole thing. Best of luck.
netflixNchill
Well-known member
This whole thread needs to be removed for the sake of all parties looking bad.
We got a reputable company being falsely slandered...
We have Mike directly communicating with someone who has openly expressed the use of his products in an illegal manner...
And finally we have a kid who thought he needed a prescription AI to handle the estrogen side effects of 4-Andro! At this point, everything you said is discredited, needing Exem for a 2-step prohormone??? I've seen countless beginners have the same estrogen placebo effect, because its real testosterone....right?
The mind is a powerful thing, phantom sore nips is a real for people...even when its unwarranted.
Admin
We got a reputable company being falsely slandered...
We have Mike directly communicating with someone who has openly expressed the use of his products in an illegal manner...
And finally we have a kid who thought he needed a prescription AI to handle the estrogen side effects of 4-Andro! At this point, everything you said is discredited, needing Exem for a 2-step prohormone??? I've seen countless beginners have the same estrogen placebo effect, because its real testosterone....right?
The mind is a powerful thing, phantom sore nips is a real for people...even when its unwarranted.
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MrManlet
Active member
You mean this thread needs to be removed cuz it’s not kiss ass like everyone else? Someone didn’t get good services god forbid take it down! Right? Some people, myself included, are very sensitive to hormones. And an otc AI doesn’t cut it for me. So I LOW dose exem. Or in the case, no dose... I’m not discredited at all. You’re trying your best to make that happen tho, because you’re obviously invested in this company. Take this thread down and you’re just proving the shills. I took screen shots of everything I posted and some responses as well
netflixNchill
Well-known member
Lol this thread has been up for over a week, don't you think if PRE could pull strings that this would've been removed within hours?
I'm invested in this forum, not PRE. I want to see ALL sponsors succeed.
So lets look at the facts,
We have someone, definitely a beginner from profile image, who was slandering an old sponsor, who is a vet in this industry and very reputable (IMR)
Then another reputable business, and sponsor here, is nice and sends you a free bottle on them... horrible service!
So whats next? Im willing to bet we'll see you back here again to slander MA Research because the imaginary estrogen side effects in your head aren't being fixed with legit AI's
Im not sure what forum you're actually from, but it sure does appear like you're trying to work your way around to discredited multiple sponsors here?
You're built like that Dylan G., Maybe you're his brother? Would definitely explain your vast imagination
I'm invested in this forum, not PRE. I want to see ALL sponsors succeed.
So lets look at the facts,
We have someone, definitely a beginner from profile image, who was slandering an old sponsor, who is a vet in this industry and very reputable (IMR)
Then another reputable business, and sponsor here, is nice and sends you a free bottle on them... horrible service!
So whats next? Im willing to bet we'll see you back here again to slander MA Research because the imaginary estrogen side effects in your head aren't being fixed with legit AI's
Im not sure what forum you're actually from, but it sure does appear like you're trying to work your way around to discredited multiple sponsors here?
You're built like that Dylan G., Maybe you're his brother? Would definitely explain your vast imagination
netflixNchill
Well-known member
No, What we have is someone who is making a claim about a company with literally zero bad reviews. We know the Admin doesn't delete bad reviews, or else this would've never made it past a day.
Its been 7 months, where is even a single other bunk complaint? They had to of sold AT LEAST 300 bottles from that exem batch, where the hell is everyone else? I know Id be on the forums letting everyone know, but yet here we are... someone who got awarded a free bottle by PRE because he swore IMR was bunk, which they aren't, and then wants to discredit PRE the same way LOL
Look, its 4-andro, its not testosterone. Imagination...
Its been 7 months, where is even a single other bunk complaint? They had to of sold AT LEAST 300 bottles from that exem batch, where the hell is everyone else? I know Id be on the forums letting everyone know, but yet here we are... someone who got awarded a free bottle by PRE because he swore IMR was bunk, which they aren't, and then wants to discredit PRE the same way LOL
Look, its 4-andro, its not testosterone. Imagination...
Kratom267
Active member
"Dont you talk bout my favorite company that way!!!!"
I mean damn...yall all need to relax a bit.
The guy had a bad experience and thought he'd share it...which is what this forum is for correct? Sharing experiences with messing with our hormones, to hopefully better ourselves. Product reviews, etc.
Unless you are financially invested in the company...chill.
I mean damn...yall all need to relax a bit.
The guy had a bad experience and thought he'd share it...which is what this forum is for correct? Sharing experiences with messing with our hormones, to hopefully better ourselves. Product reviews, etc.
Unless you are financially invested in the company...chill.
justhere4comm
Banned
Maybe the OP should take Letrone and Rebirth from BLR.
MrManlet
Active member
How am I discrediting the company when I’ve said multiple times IM NOT DISCREDITING THEM. I even suggested people still use them. You’re mad af for no reason bro. Why would I go out of my way to discredit them? Oh and btw? IMR is not a “vet” in this industry.. they’re a supplement company who thought they’d try their best in another industry.. how is reporting a bad experience slander? Oh wait... it’s not. It’s honest feedback. Get the stick outcha ass
MrManlet
Active member
I’ve covered pretty much every part of your allegation so I’m not gonna go too deep into it I’m just gonna say to reread my posts and answer your own questions buddy... you keep asking the same things over and over acting like it’s making me look bad when I’ve already covered those LOL
RickyBlobby
Well-known member
opcorn:
Cgkone
Well-known member
Multiple bunk products. Not saying its impossible. But getting bunk stane is hard to do over and over.
Renew1
Legend
Alright ...last post for me in this crap.
Like I said a couple of times, I have a great relationship with PRE, and would recommend them to ANYONE.
HOWEVER....when people jump on a guy (and don't quit) for posting what he claims is his experience.
THAT JUST REEKS. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MOTIVATION.
I've been in his shoes (years ago)
....and was proven right in the end. But that doesn't change the fact that my "brothers" jumped on me for reporting my true experiences. They knew their own experiences (and some of them knew what freebies they were thrown)....but NONE of them could tell me what my experience was. And NO ONE here, can tell this guy what his experience was.
Quit being d***s!
Like I said a couple of times, I have a great relationship with PRE, and would recommend them to ANYONE.
HOWEVER....when people jump on a guy (and don't quit) for posting what he claims is his experience.
THAT JUST REEKS. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MOTIVATION.
I've been in his shoes (years ago)
....and was proven right in the end. But that doesn't change the fact that my "brothers" jumped on me for reporting my true experiences. They knew their own experiences (and some of them knew what freebies they were thrown)....but NONE of them could tell me what my experience was. And NO ONE here, can tell this guy what his experience was.
Quit being d***s!
MrManlet
Active member
Funny too... how if you use the search bar, not only is there no bad reviews... but I believe there’s no good reviews either??? Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? All I can find is a couple posts in their own threads saying “tots legit brah” and believe it or not of the few of them there is... there from the few people who are getting butt hurt in this thread! Funny how the world works
Kratom267
Active member
Just trying to lighten up this thread a bit....
I was on the PHF forum years ago, and I purchased Clomid and Nolva from one of their board sponsors for RC's, and both were bunk. I made a post on the companies thread. Didnt say anything like "your entire company is bull****! Never buying from you again" or anything like that, I basically just said what the OP did...And damn, I got SO much hate! When I tried to explain my post, I was immediately banned. All I said was 'what you sent me was either extremely underdosed, or the wrong research chemical'...which was putting it mildly. Everyone and his mother told me that they've bought dozens of times from the company and that its ALWAYS been top notch, so **** you for posting and questioning them!!!
Pretty sure what they sent me was just colored vodka. So how dare I question their quality.
Always keep in mind that "3rd party Labs" can easily be faked...anyone with basic photoshop skills can whip some up. Also, most of the RC sites that offer 3rd party labs look like they were made with Microsoft Word!!! Kinda sad, really. They just say "Clomiphene---99.8%", tested by a company that has no website or physical address! I asked Mike Arnold about how to read and figure out the lab results that are sent with each purchase,
"There isn't "supposed" to be a "purity percentage" written on the test...because a typed number isn't proof of anything. Simply having a number on the report representing a "purity percentage" does nothing to prove legitimacy. I could've altered the document before I sent it to you and put a nice little line on the report that read "Purity Percentage: 99.7%", but what would that prove? Nothing...because numbers aren't proof of anything. Numbers mean nothing because they are easily fabricated by even the most computer illiterate individuals. I chose not to add the purity percentage number to the report because that's not how I received it. I gave you what the lab gave me. I don't remember exactly what the purity percentage was according to the lab, but I know it was 99% or over...or else we wouldn't have sold it, as 99% is our cut-off point for raws.
The graph IS the PROOF of purity...not a number. I don't give mass spec/HPLC reports to my customers because I think they all know how to read mass spec reports. Rather, I offer it as a form of "proof" that the product is what it says it is. It may be easy to add a purity percentage number onto a report, but it's NOT easy...at all...to make a fake MASS SPEC graph, especially an accurate one. Most people don't have the know-how or the knowledge to do that...because it would require the necessary computer software and the ability to read mass spec reports.
If I was putting out fake reports it would be like putting nails in my own coffin...because there are plenty of people in our community who can read them...and if mine weren't correct I would eventually get called out on it...and it would destroy my credibility. Why take that risk when I don't have to? It would be stupid."
...sorry, went on a bit of a rant there...just saying, mistakes can be made, not everything in life is 100%. If someone had a bad experience with so-and-so's company, no need to be rude. Someone mentioned earlier that there hasn't been one bad review...well...now we have one.
Fiz
New member
Very nicely put
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