seccsi said:
1. I said it's multiple people...but clearly you felt the shoe fit enough to feel it was you.
2. All I said was it was always about race on here with some people. And that many people PMed me saying it had long been a haven for that type of posting and many of them had quit posting in the politics forum because of it.
It's not racist to be against illegal immigration....but look at your own words. Which makes me wonder, is it the money that bothers you or the fact that "the mexicans" are coming into the country? That a color of skin other than your own might not always be the majority?
Then our politicians won't have to worry about anybody but the NEW majority (the Mexicans) who will VASTLY outnumber every other race combined. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions...
Almost everything you post in the politics forum has to do with race. I never claimed anyone was right or wrong on this. You're an admitted racist (though it is clear to anyone who reads the forum anyways). I merely told vinny what many had told me...it might not be worth your time. It really wasn't meant to be an attack Brian, more an assertion many had shared with me.
I didn't take it as an attack at all, really Seccsi. I'm fine with being called a racist! And while you mentioned multiple people, I was just wondering why (my) racialist viewpoint was being called into question on an issue that did not really deal with race, but rather illegal immigration of ANY race (which was the only way I felt a bit called out). Again, my racialist viewpoints simply state I want to live separately from other races, not get rid of them. I want all of us to live together, but separately if we so choose. That's all. If an immigrant wants to come here LEGALLY, I will be the FIRST to welcome them. The differences lie in the fact that a legal immigrant:
1. Is documented, so we know their criminal history and whether they are on the terrorist watch list or not
2. Pays income taxes
3. Is not paid less than the legal minimum wage (thus, no enslavement or resorting to criminal behavior to make ends meet)
4. Demonstrated a willingness to show respect for this country and the law by learning English, the Pledge, and our Constitution, while pledging to defend the same (as is personified in the vast majority of legal immigrants who are extremely patriotic Americans investing in the American dream, rather than withdrawing from our social safety-nets without ever intending to contribute).
As far as my posts in the other forum, they were on one specific issue. I really don't have a problem with Mexicans (even in the other thread I mentioned how I believed Mexicans were more similar to Whites as far as culture). It is definitely the money that bothers me with illegal immigration, as illegal immigrants cost my state a significant amount of our annual budget (as well as representing a significant portion of our deficits). Even sales tax is negligible amongst these groups of people because they get paid so little, they don't buy anything. Thus, no sales tax/income tax, but the 3 million illegals cost the taxpayers $9 billion a year ($3000 per illegal immigrant in this state). Assuming every citizen of California pays taxes (man/woman/child), we would pay $20.25 a month (assuming every citizen payed taxes) to cover the costs of 3 million illegals. In reality, there are 9.5 million adults in California, and assuming they all paid taxes, they would all have paid $950 a year EACH ($80 a month). Those numbers obviously are not exact, because it's difficult to get exact population statistics as well as how many income tax returns were filed, but it should be a pretty accurate rough estimate (especially considering the 9.5 million adults assumes 0% unemployment).
As far as another color of skin becoming the majority, you really should come down here to SoCal. Whites haven't been the majority in a long time (census statistics aren't accurate in this regard due to the number of illegals that aren't accounted for). Mexicans have been, and likely always will be, the clear majority represented in this state. My concern is that by giving amnesty, they will then be able to sponsor their entire families back home in Mexico to come here legally and become citizens, basically giving America to Mexico (if they want it). They will be able to vote, and yes, I am concerned that from that point on, all legislation will be in the best interest of Mexicans and their benefits, not life-long Americans.
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I still blame the same people.