Back from injury to re-ask everyone.. Like last year!

kaiboe

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Whats up guys!?

Anyway, its been awhile.. I suffered a nasty training injury maybe 3 weeks into a natty stack that was recommended by the masses here. After months and months of therapy, I AM BACK! However, during my time off I kind of got out of the supplement loop. If you guys can point me in the right direction with a stack similar to the one I began last year, that would be great.. I understand from what I have searched that quite a few new supps have come out this past year, please let me know what new supplements should replace what. Also, I am an Oly weightlifter, so i need strength before all.

Here is what I began:

Ergonine 1-16
Magnitropin 1-8
Xgels 50 days from the start
Anabeta - Elite 9-16
Erase pro 9-16

It seems that everyone is going wild over Olympic labs, maybe is should be replacing e9 and Magnitropin with Tr1umph and Ep1c Unleashed? Also, anything else new that I may not know of.. Feel free to give me some options!

Thanks guys
 
Welcome back! If you haven't lifted in "months and months", I would probably shoot for a month or two with just staple supps (or none at all). You should see some nice, almost newbie-like gains naturally. THEN, once your progression starts to slow, start adding the supps in to help keep the pace up. Or go balls to the wall, lol. Just one man's opinion.

As for what supps, yes, Olympus Labs is definitely killing it right now. You can't go wrong between e9 and Tr1umph, but you do get Phosphatidic Acid with Tr1umph, which has been a game-changer staple supp. Increased strength, mTOR activation, muscle fullness, etc. I love it.

Ep1c Unleashed is one of the best epicatechin products of the new generation with absorption enhancers that have greatly enhanced bio-availability. The transdermal version in particular is awesome, imo.

Xgels, Anabeta, and Erase Pro are all still top-notch products.
 
Looks like a great stack. Xgels and few other ingredients have actual studies to show they increase strength in human clinical trials.
One thing I would look at would be Alphamax Xt for a later run, after you finished this stack (as you seem to have everything covered for now). Alphamax Xt contains LJ and Urtica Dioica to increase test, Ldopa and DHAA to reduce estrogen and cortisol with Ashwagandha to reduce cortisol. It also contains F95 for lbm and ferulic acid, like Ergonine does, which has shown an increase in lbm and strength.

replacing e9 and Magnitropin with Tr1umph and Ep1c Unleashed could also work, depending on your budget. Tr1umph includes a few extra ingredients that ergonine doesn't, but it is also reflected in the price. Magnitropin is also a test boost so changing it out with Ep1c unleashed is not fully comparable
 
^^^ Agreed! Tr1umph and Ep1c Unleashed would be an awesome stack. Both great products by a quality supp company.
 
Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated!
After reading all of this, I started to look into OL a little more.. Alphamax xt looks good, just unsure how to use it/stack with.. So I'm thinking of giving this a run -

1-8 Ergo9 - Soy Leci. (finish supply)
9-16 Tr1umph
50 Days - Xgels
1-8 Ep1c Unleashed Derma
1-8 Str3ngth Derma

* 9-16 ABE
* 9-16 EPro

I am not positive yet how the Abe and Epro would stack coming right off of epic and strength? Any input would be great!

Thanks again for all the help - stoked to be part of the community again!
 
I would also add creatine to the mix. Creatine is very beneficial to athletes and helps increase cell volume, strength and has many other benefits. PowerMax XT takes your basic creatine up a notch and adds betaine, which improves overall performance and can increase body composition. I will link two articles about that below. Also, amento will increase workout performance while LA-L-Glutamine.

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kaiboe said:
Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated!
After reading all of this, I started to look into OL a little more.. Alphamax xt looks good, just unsure how to use it/stack with.. So I'm thinking of giving this a run -

1-8 Ergo9 - Soy Leci. (finish supply)
9-16 Tr1umph
50 Days - Xgels
1-8 Ep1c Unleashed Derma
1-8 Str3ngth Derma

* 9-16 ABE
* 9-16 EPro

I am not positive yet how the Abe and Epro would stack coming right off of epic and strength? Any input would be great!

Thanks again for all the help - stoked to be part of the community again!
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That is a super solid stack plan.

Honestly, it looks awesome. Adding SoyL to e9 is a great idea to get your PA in. Ep1c Unleashed and Dermastrength Unleashed will work very nicely together. ABE and Epro will be fine to run right after EU and DSU, no break necessary.

Couple minor suggestions:
-If you're literally just coming back from not working out for awhile, I'd wait at least a couple weeks into the stack to add in the X-gels so your joints have some time to re-acclimate.
-Also, while I'm sure you'd end up doing so anyway, be sure to take the X-gels at the same time you take your SoyL/Tr1umph so you get the benefits of SoyL's emulsifying properties.

I envy you man. I'm plateauing on a cut right now, but you, having had a couple months off, plus the crazy strength/mps/recovery benefits you're going to get from this stack...your progression is gonna be sick!
 
AntM1564 said:
I would also add creatine to the mix.
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I think he's got that covered with e9/Tr1umph.

But creatine/betaine are definitely useful staples one does not want to do without. For that reason, I'd recommend he keep a staple product like Tr1umph/Ergonine/Powermax in his arsenal after he gets through this stack.
kaiboe, if you like Tr1umph and want that to be your choice as your staple supp for the future, be sure to check out the Olympus Labs Insider Overload thread. Olympus runs some pretty sick direct sales from time-to-time, often 50% off, which makes stocking up on Tr1umph (and other goodies) very affordable.

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Lynks8 said:
I think he's got that covered with e9/Tr1umph.

But creatine/betaine are definitely useful staples one does not want to do without. For that reason, I'd recommend he keep a staple product like Tr1umph/Ergonine/Powermax in his arsenal after he gets through this stack.
kaiboe, if you like Tr1umph and want that to be your choice as your staple supp for the future, be sure to check out the Olympus Labs Insider Overload thread. Olympus runs some pretty sick direct sales from time-to-time, often 50% off, which makes stocking up on Tr1umph (and other goodies) very affordable.

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Good call. I completely drew a blank and skipped over E9
 
Right on! Stoked to get rolling and see what lies ahead. I decided I am holding out for my 6 week Strength Phase, and then once I reap the comeback gains.. Then I will run this! Thanks to everyone who helped out, much appreciated and I will keep you guys posted!
 
tbh you can go with only tr1iumph or ergonine...tho if you got the money I would suggest ABE+Ara+trIumph...they really stack nice
 
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