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B3AST Stack by Flex Fitness... need some input

Rooster7

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After running 3 ,1-andro cycles and 2 , SARM cycles , one of which was stacked along side 1-andro. I wanted something a bit stronger. I recently impulse bought the B3AST Stack by Flex Fitness because of a Christmas sale ( ya ik ,what was I thinking I do not really know , should of thought it through). At the time of the sale the stack was reasonably priced and there's 20+ positive reviews of the stack ( they're not all bs reviews). After ordering I began researching and analyzing other peoples logs ( very few ). I have come to the conclusion that this stack is a bit ridiculous ( after impulse buying it of course). I'm still debating on doing it right now , I may just get rid of it and do something more reasonable , I still wanted to get some other opinions on it because I am not an expert in this field , I just know how to not mess myself up.
 
B3AST 90 Cap:

Serving size, 1 Cap:

19-Norandrostenediol (19-Nor) 60mg

13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one (Max LMG) 25mg

2,17a-Dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one (Methyl-Sten) 10mg

Carbopol 15mg



Wolverine HARDCORE 90 Cap:

Serving Size, 1 Cap:

19-Norandrostenediol (19-Nor) 80mg

6-chloro-androst-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol (Hexadrone) 30mg

2,17a-Dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one (Methyl-Sten) 10mg

Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione (Arimistane) 25mg

Carbopol 20mg



Restore (PCT) 90 Cap.

Serving size, 1 Cap: Arimistane 65mg, 954mg D-Aspartic Acid, 105mg Milk Thistle
 
Weeks 1-4: B3AST

Start the first month of your cycle with B3AST to get immediate, explosive gains in size and strength. These initial gains are triggered by the Methyl Sten and Max-LMG. The 19-Nor has a 2 week loading phase so you won’t see much from that compound at first. On the third week, users should see a spike in size and strength gains due to the 19-Nor being fully active.You might also notice a rapid decrease in body fat by the second week, increased vascularity, faster recovery, increased stamina and endurance, and also an increase in appetite. Take your first pill in the morning, second pill in the midday, and third at night an hour or 2 before bed.

Weeks 5-8: Wolverine HARDCORE

After the 19-Nor is built up to full capacity in your system and the addition of Hexadrone, users may experience even more explosive gains of very dry, lean size and strength throughout their cycle. Arimistane is included to block any excess estrogen that may occur from such high levels of testosterone, leaving you lean and side effect free. Take your first Wolverine HARDCORE pill in the morning, second pill in the midday, and third at night an hour or so before bed.

Weeks 8-12: Restore (PCT)

About 5 days before you run out of your Pro Hormone start introducing Restore. Restore will slingshot natural testosterone through the roof and crush estrogen. This will make it possible to keep all your gains and not have any future side effects. Take your first Restore pill in the morning, second pill in the midday, and third at night an hour or 2 before bed.

Note: Proper weight lifting and high calorie/quality nutrition must be practiced to achieve these results. Most users do not report negative side effects. Other products that increase the effectiveness of this stack would be pre workouts, whey isolates, weight gainers shakes, post-workout shakes high in whey isolate and amino acids, multi-vitamins, and joint support formulas.
 
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Other Stuff I bought ( this will be used on this or another , just support pct stuff )
3x 5% Nutrition Liver and Organ Defender
1x HCGenerate
I have not pulled the trigger on what SERM to use , apparently people in their logs did not use one which kind of blows my mind lol
I may bridge onto a SARM after , still deciding on doing this stack anyways.
also take into consideration the Arimistane throughout the cycle as well as the DAA in restore haha.
Liver and Organ Defender will be run from day 1 to end of PCT , hence why I bought 3 bottles.

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Overall I don't know what to do as many people have supposedly used this cycle and had great results with no sides , but upon me actually you know... looking into it and researching... I think otherwise. I am not asking for anyone on here to tell me not to do it or to do it , I will make that decision on my own. I would like some input however , and not just laughing at me for being too jolly on Christmas Day.
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Reason for taking: Like past stuff I used... it's all for recovery from my training. I train 7 days a week whether on something or not because I enjoy training hard. With this amount I frequency I do not properly recover and get all the gains unless enhanced from my experiences. Currently cutting so my diet is very clean , I have no emotional attachment to food anyways. I do not just mess around in the gym either , I start off with a compound movement and then work my way into hypertrophy based work. I primarily body build so my compounds are not that impressive at all

DL: 450 conv
SQ: 335 high-bar atg
B: 275

6ft
211lbs currently around 13% bf coming off a 220lb bulk.
 
What's the rest of your pct?
 
No. Run a solo methyl with a test base. Dumb to jump from sarms and andros to a stack with methylsten and max lmg. Epistane and triumphalis are good. Msten solo would be the most you should run with your experience imo
 
Rooster7 said:
B3AST 90 Cap:

Serving size, 1 Cap:

19-Norandrostenediol (19-Nor) 60mg

13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one (Max LMG) 25mg

2,17a-Dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one (Methyl-Sten) 10mg

Carbopol 15mg



Wolverine HARDCORE 90 Cap:

Serving Size, 1 Cap:

19-Norandrostenediol (19-Nor) 80mg

6-chloro-androst-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol (Hexadrone) 30mg

2,17a-Dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one (Methyl-Sten) 10mg

Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione (Arimistane) 25mg

Carbopol 20mg



Restore (PCT) 90 Cap.

Serving size, 1 Cap: Arimistane 65mg, 954mg D-Aspartic Acid, 105mg Milk Thistle
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I truly loath companies that put out crap like this. If I'm reading this correctly, you are going to be running 30mg of Msten for 60 straight days, on top of all of the other stuff. That is not a smart idea and not something that even most veterans would do. The typical dosage for Msten is 20mg for 4-6 weeks and it is often times run solo at that dosage.

If it were me, and I say this without being funny, I would throw the stuff out. If you do plan on pressing forward, I would do 2 separate cycles.

I can't comment on the Rich Piana cycle support stuff but I thought I heard it was over-priced and underdosed. Maybe I'm thinking about something else. The HCGenerate, well.....

Definitely get a SERM for PCT! Nolva or Clomid. Make sure you have a legit AI on hand; Not and OTC AI!!

Do not bridge into a SARM, run the SARM first. SARM + 1 bottle of this stuff should give you a full cycle. Then you can do another SARM + the other bottle down the road.

As far as training 7 days a week because you like to push hard, I get that because I like to push myself too but everyone needs time off or a deload period. You will gain and grow more if you take some time off and allow your body to rest and grow. Growth happpens during rest, not during training.

You wrote a lot so hopefully I didn't miss anything....

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
Thank you for your input , and I know it's my fault... I regret my decision. If I end up doing it I will get nolva
 
ya... you hit the nail on the head with my exact concerns( after you know already buying this ****...) ... I regret my decision. I got the Piana stuff on sale and if you read the dosages , it's actually pretty decent. If I end up doing It (or part of it) , I will get some nolva for sure. I totally agree with as well on the training thing as well! It's I don't feel right with a rest day , I always try to get in there hit a light arm workout on my "rest day". Splitting it up sounds like a good idea , I'm still considering even using it. There is a log on this already up on here Toren , what's your input on his log ( I know it's kind of old). Elaborate on why HCGenerate is crap as well ????
 
ya I know you need a serm , I have yet to choose nolva or clomid , prob going with nolva never used clomid before. I will prob split this thing in half if I end up using it... and I'm sure you know why.
 
Rooster7 said:
ya I know you need a serm , I have yet to choose nolva or clomid , prob going with nolva never used clomid before. I will prob split this thing in half if I end up using it... and I'm sure you know why.
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If you already have it, may as well run it, but do more research, there are some potent compounds in that.
 
Again It's my fault I know... I'm not arguing with you NattyBoy , after researching ( after I already got it) I'm NOW well aware of the obnoxious amount of Msten in this not to mention the max lmg in the first one ( hence why I'm a dumba** ). it's just this **** is already sitting on my shelf. What's your thoughts of the log that is already made on this cycle

Search : FLEX Fitness Products Beast Stack (Beast, Wolverine, Restore) , it's a log where he ran it all the way through.
 
Rooster7 said:
Again It's my fault I know... I'm not arguing with you NattyBoy , after researching ( after I already got it) I'm NOW well aware of the obnoxious amount of Msten in this not to mention the max lmg in the first one ( hence why I'm a dumba** ). it's just this **** is already sitting on my shelf. What's your thoughts of the log that is already made on this cycle

Search : FLEX Fitness Products Beast Stack (Beast, Wolverine, Restore) , it's a log where he ran it all the way through.
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Run it for 4-6weeks max imo, get a good cycle support like damage control or arimicare pro and add more tudca to it. Just do more research before you start
 
Rooster7 said:
There is a log on this already up on here Toren , what's your input on his log ( I know it's kind of old). Elaborate on why HCGenerate is crap as well ????
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It's not much of a log as it's pretty short and light on details. The user transformation is noticeable but I'm guessing a lot of that is muscle memory as he had probably been to that level or near there before. It looks like he trains hard and has good genetics as well.

I didn't say HCGenerate was crap. I have never used it but I am not a fan of the way it is pimped on some websites as the holy grail. I would never use that as my sole PCT and I would never expect it to prevent shutdown on cycle as the manufacturer claims on their website. If it's something you already have, adding it into PCT with a proper SERM is a good idea.
 
Correct and he never finished the log of what he did for PCT and how it went which irks me , he did however run it all the way through for 8 weeks. He also went on other threads recommending it over epi... If I do something with this stuff I will get some nolva ( I've used some of my friends before with my older stuff ) , I don't believe that prevention of shutdown thing either , I did not know they claimed that ( got it from a 3rd party source ). There's a lot of positive stuff about nonetheless , so It won't hurt.
 
Rooster7 said:
Correct and he never finished the log of what he did for PCT and how it went which irks me , he did however run it all the way through for 8 weeks. He also went on other threads recommending it over epi... If I do something with this stuff I will get some nolva ( I've used some of my friends before with my older stuff ) , I don't believe that prevention of shutdown thing either , I did not know they claimed that ( got it from a 3rd party source ). There's a lot of positive stuff about nonetheless , so It won't hurt.
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Obviously it will yield better results than epistane, being that there are multiple compounds in it lol...
 
I'd keep them for a later date. Hit a solo run of something first (epi, dmz, msten). Then maybe try a DMZ/msten type of stack, then I'd say you'd be ready to determine if a stack like this is in your cards (based on how you react, what sides you experience and to what severity, etc.)

I would NOT, however, ever run these 2 back to back as suggested......sh*t like this is why we cannot have nice things lol. But running at 2 caps 20-25 days then trying 3 for the last couple would be my suggestion (after you're experienced enough to run something of that caliber)
 
OP just out of curiosity did you pick this up on a website or at a store? If you got it where I'm thinking it's a "large-first names starting with D-nutrition"
 
Of course but he did not drop dead lol from it , and it was a multi compound cycle thread anyways it's not of concern.
 
K_pem , you are correct , website sent me an email of stuff on sale and BAM impulse bought may way into this situation...
 
If people ran 30mg of Msten for 60 days and didn't have any sides...it's not 30mg of Msten. Immediately sketchy of quality. Case closed for me. Aside from being a big mess of a product anyways.
 
Dma378 said:
If people ran 30mg of Msten for 60 days and didn't have any sides...it's not 30mg of Msten. Immediately sketchy of quality. Case closed for me. Aside from being a big mess of a product anyways.
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I think most of those stacks are underdosed or mislabeled. I had friends that ran tank and only gained 5-10lbs.
 
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