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tiggermoon
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tiggermoon said:
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14th day update.
measurments have remained the same, but weight is up 3 pounds.
i do feel more dense/thick, and possibely holding water.(can't seem to lay off the salt.)
overall i find the addition of new-product to a dose of c2 makles for an excellent pre-WO boost. strength gains have been evident, 20lbs on squats,
15lbs on benchpress,
10lbs on shoulder press, in the past week, also increase in the number of reps at the high end of pyramid(2 to 3).
with all the benefits it has had on WO, the second week has shown a decrease in non-WO effects(mood, energy, libido, sleep) when compared to powerFull.
with the permission of usplabs, i would like to try a combo of new-product and powerfull. but if i don't get the okay i will finish out the third week with new-product as a stand -alone just like the first 2 weeks.
to summerize - good strength gains
no DOMS
also increase in endurance(increased reps @ heavier weight)
no evidence so far in body recomp'.
good addition to c2 as a preWO stim.
oh, and also, be sure to take with vinegar-water.
thought i would include a pict' of the gym i go to.
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tiggermoon said:
Nice home setup!
Please do include the PowerFULL the combination should be killer!
Yjyankee
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OK, here's my update:
I started with my 4 pills prior to dinner on the 12th. I continued w/ the 4 before breakfast, 4 pre WO, and then 4 before last meal (protein shake before bed)
Strength increase is very, very subtle. I'm also taking Cissus & C2. My tendonitis is really limiting my back, shoulder, and arm WO's.. My strong points have been pressing movements - chest & military presses.
Legs don't really feel a whole lot stronger either.
By looking in the mirror, I see a difference. Shoulders/waist looks better. Although I have been running a lot more lately.
Some have compared this to Powerfull.. I'd have to disagree. My libido has seemed to actually have gone down.. :wtf: Even my wife noticed it. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
USP, if you have any more beta, I'd be willing to try more at a higher dose, or mix it up w/ some Powerfull..
I just started taking the Cissus 2 pills, 3x a day along w/ 800mg ibuprofin for this tendonitis...
any advice?
I started with my 4 pills prior to dinner on the 12th. I continued w/ the 4 before breakfast, 4 pre WO, and then 4 before last meal (protein shake before bed)
Strength increase is very, very subtle. I'm also taking Cissus & C2. My tendonitis is really limiting my back, shoulder, and arm WO's.. My strong points have been pressing movements - chest & military presses.
Legs don't really feel a whole lot stronger either.
By looking in the mirror, I see a difference. Shoulders/waist looks better. Although I have been running a lot more lately.
Some have compared this to Powerfull.. I'd have to disagree. My libido has seemed to actually have gone down.. :wtf: Even my wife noticed it. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
USP, if you have any more beta, I'd be willing to try more at a higher dose, or mix it up w/ some Powerfull..
I just started taking the Cissus 2 pills, 3x a day along w/ 800mg ibuprofin for this tendonitis...
any advice?
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Yj,
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i have a new usp labs "feel and look like you are on anabolics, but not be on anabolics" stack that we need 5 people to try and keep a good log on- you are a good candidate
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D@USP LABS said:
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trailer36
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Day 7 update,
I have been using Beta for PCT on SD cycle for one week now and I will report what I have experienced.
- weight gain has stayed the same which is a major positive in my book (222)
- strength has also remained steady where i thought i was going to lose some of this in PCT but none so far.
- i feel like i have shed some water i was holding which must mean i have added some LBM to keep weight steady
- my testicles have definitely returned to their normal size.
Ceosm or D, i would like to also try this with PowerFULL as i feel i have responded so well to this in the past i might actually be able to gain muscle and strength in PCT. Please let me know if the customer Appreciation sale is still going on (the one with the password). thanks,
sean
I have been using Beta for PCT on SD cycle for one week now and I will report what I have experienced.
- weight gain has stayed the same which is a major positive in my book (222)
- strength has also remained steady where i thought i was going to lose some of this in PCT but none so far.
- i feel like i have shed some water i was holding which must mean i have added some LBM to keep weight steady
- my testicles have definitely returned to their normal size.
Ceosm or D, i would like to also try this with PowerFULL as i feel i have responded so well to this in the past i might actually be able to gain muscle and strength in PCT. Please let me know if the customer Appreciation sale is still going on (the one with the password). thanks,
sean
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trailer36 said:
Sure and coupon is USPlabs.tv.
sean taylor
West Coast Highland Athlete
Day 21 for me folks...
Well I am up 4 pounds and still see my abs and waist is the same size. The other day I was doing rack deadlifts and just could not wear myself out. I got up to 515 after 5 warm up sets and got 3 sets of 4 at that weight. Felt awesome! My bi's and traps were pumped up and looking huge. My GF has told me my back and traps are looking awesome. All my workout have been like this. I actually want to do more.
Pros: increased endurance, increased libido, shorter recuperation period = no DOMS
Sides: A little bit of oily face but nothing bad at all.
Final dosing: 9 caps at 3x a day
Was mixed with Cissus for the last 2 weeks which seemed to really compliment the stack, as Cissus RX seems to do with anything you stack it with.
All in all, this beta is a plus. Compared to PowerFULL, I actually like it better. Can't wait to see how the next iteration works out. Great job USPLabs.
Well I am up 4 pounds and still see my abs and waist is the same size. The other day I was doing rack deadlifts and just could not wear myself out. I got up to 515 after 5 warm up sets and got 3 sets of 4 at that weight. Felt awesome! My bi's and traps were pumped up and looking huge. My GF has told me my back and traps are looking awesome. All my workout have been like this. I actually want to do more.
Pros: increased endurance, increased libido, shorter recuperation period = no DOMS
Sides: A little bit of oily face but nothing bad at all.
Final dosing: 9 caps at 3x a day
Was mixed with Cissus for the last 2 weeks which seemed to really compliment the stack, as Cissus RX seems to do with anything you stack it with.
All in all, this beta is a plus. Compared to PowerFULL, I actually like it better. Can't wait to see how the next iteration works out. Great job USPLabs.
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sean taylor said:
O!
To bad the release will be a limited supply since its such a difficult conversion, but the price will be reasonable! We will take a slight pay cut to expose the product, but the price will escalate in the future but not so much.
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Beau said:
Actually the new product will be much more potent and require less caps and 12 would rock hard!(if rock hard means anything...lol)
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Beau said:
I am talking about the beta product. The beta product will be much more potent...Yea it can be increased do this...
4 morning
6 pre workout
4 night
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Beau said:
Anytime Homey!
sean taylor
West Coast Highland Athlete
USPLabs said:
I am already waiting to order the new stuff
Vipersg123
Active member
yeah i can't wait to buy this stuff! Keep us updated on when it's release date is.
devil
Member
Here is my 14 day update....
It was a bit of a rough week. A nagging back injury flared up on me. I was unable to really train the way I wanted to, so its impossible to determine if there were any improvements in strength. Libido is still up. Something else that I observed is that I have been getting up to go to the bathroom much more
frequently at night. Does this product have a bit of a diuretic property to it? Some people were observing that they looked leaner after only a week. Such an observable body comp change in such a short period of time would almost have to come from dropping some water. Just a thought.
I was led the believe that i would only have enough product to run it for two weeks. I actually was given enough to run it for three week. I will update again next week.
It was a bit of a rough week. A nagging back injury flared up on me. I was unable to really train the way I wanted to, so its impossible to determine if there were any improvements in strength. Libido is still up. Something else that I observed is that I have been getting up to go to the bathroom much more
frequently at night. Does this product have a bit of a diuretic property to it? Some people were observing that they looked leaner after only a week. Such an observable body comp change in such a short period of time would almost have to come from dropping some water. Just a thought.
I was led the believe that i would only have enough product to run it for two weeks. I actually was given enough to run it for three week. I will update again next week.
tiggermoon
Registered User
tiggermoon said:
21 day update.
after adding powerFull to the beta/c2 stack there has finally been a change in body appearence.
first the stats...
weight is now 186.5lbs a 1.5lb drop, probabley water but maybe fat, as i am finally seeing a difference in body comp'
chest is now 45 1/2", another 1/2" gain(bear in mind this mearsurment includes back muscles so it is the 2 combined.)
arms 15 3/4" another 1/8" gain
legs 23 3/8", 1/8" gain
:sad: :rant: :aargh: :rant: waist has stayed the same :rant: :rant: :rant: :aargh::aargh::aargh::aargh::sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
but more good news on the strength front.
went up another 20lbs on squats, finally broke the 290lb sticking point :woohoo:
:woohoo:
up another 15lbs on bench, finally broke the 185lb sticker
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
up another 10lbs on shoulder-press, finally broke the 150lb sticker
:woohoo:
:woohoo:
pumps have been great, 8 to 10 hours past WO. and muscles still feel full (but not quite pumped) 24 hours later.
great recovery.
i have been liftfing heavy (yes, i know some AM members are laughing at what i consider heavy)
going steadily up in poundages, with no DOMS.
i have been tired though.
interesting side - the addition of powerFull to the stack has seemed to have an appetite suppresion effect.
:clap2::clap2: much praise to usplabs.
you guys are always at the top of your game.
:clap2::clap2:
Pit Bull
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Pit Bull said:
update day 14 and 21
I've been busy so I haven't posted an update on day 14 but it has been pretty much the same til day 21
no increase in weight easily holding at 170(which is what I what)
strength is slightly up since the beginning but due to a fractured rib I haven't been able to push myself as hard as I'd like but atleast I'm able to hit the weights w/o much discomfort
libido is up
good endurance and recovery b/n cardio and weight training
nice pumps and last wel past workouts along with increased vascularity
very restful deep sleep but no more crazy ass dreams
I still have some product left and I think if I was bulking and uninjured I would have better strength results. The recovery and endurance is a nice benefit because these are the things I look for in supps.
Yjyankee
More Cowbell
still taking mine, strength up, but minimal.
Libido seems to be shot!:wtf:
should I drop this & begin on the orange & yellow pills and powder, or should I take all of it together?
I see everyone else's libido has gone up & mine's gone down... My wife's getting very curious as to what's wrong.. Might go get me a bottle of some maca or something..
suggestions???
Libido seems to be shot!:wtf:
should I drop this & begin on the orange & yellow pills and powder, or should I take all of it together?
I see everyone else's libido has gone up & mine's gone down... My wife's getting very curious as to what's wrong.. Might go get me a bottle of some maca or something..
suggestions???
devil
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Here is my 21 day update. My weight is about the same as it was when I started. I have not experienced any strength increase over the last week. However, my strength is up a bit since I started. My libido remains slightly elavated. I have not experienced any significant changes in body comp. Somthing new that I noticed this week is that my knees don't ache as much.
I was also using the following supplements during the last 21 days: creatine, whey protein, multi vitamin pak, flax oil, olive oil, ephedrine, caffeine.
I was also using the following supplements during the last 21 days: creatine, whey protein, multi vitamin pak, flax oil, olive oil, ephedrine, caffeine.
BigVrunga
Well-known member
Just a quick report - I got a bag of the yellow caps and have been taking 12/day for about 2 weeks.
I dont notice much of anything anabolically speaking, although my shoulders feel great and Ive been able to work them harder than I have in a while.
Libidio actually seems a bit suppressed - on CissusRX by two weeks in I get turned on by anything with a small waist that smells good
BV
I dont notice much of anything anabolically speaking, although my shoulders feel great and Ive been able to work them harder than I have in a while.
Libidio actually seems a bit suppressed - on CissusRX by two weeks in I get turned on by anything with a small waist that smells good
BV
trailer36
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Here is my 14th day update:
Things have taken a turn for the worst with this supp for some reason. My libido is absolutely 0 and my shoulders and lower back ache constantly. I am using this supp in PCT along with Powerfull and nolva and i feel worse in PCT than i did on cycle. I know its not the PF as i have used that in the past with great results and the only other thing it could be is the nolva but this is suppossed to encourage natty test production while stopping estrogen from binding. not sure what the story is here, any thoughts Ceosm?
Things have taken a turn for the worst with this supp for some reason. My libido is absolutely 0 and my shoulders and lower back ache constantly. I am using this supp in PCT along with Powerfull and nolva and i feel worse in PCT than i did on cycle. I know its not the PF as i have used that in the past with great results and the only other thing it could be is the nolva but this is suppossed to encourage natty test production while stopping estrogen from binding. not sure what the story is here, any thoughts Ceosm?
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trailer36 said:
Drop the product and report back and guys please take cAMPHIBOLIC PCT its positive in many manners.
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I just started using Symmetry about 2 weeks ago and love the synergy between Symmetry, powerFULL, Cissus and cAMPHIBOLIC but really noticed an anabolic effect from the Symmetry in terms of strength and recovery. We have 2 bad reports and 3-4 good reports goes to show that the body's chemistry is truly unique.
My best advice is to stop using symmetry and continue on with the PowerFULL.
How long have you been on Nolvadex?
My best advice is to stop using symmetry and continue on with the PowerFULL.
How long have you been on Nolvadex?
trailer36
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Been on nolva for 1 week and 5 days. i mean no ill will here, just giving an honest feedback which i am sure is the only way you guys would have it. i might order some cAMP to finish out PCT which is only 1.2 more weeks. Maybe it is the reaction between the symmetry and nolva but i just dont see there being any problem with trib and nolva, not sure what else is in it though. I will drop the pills and let you know how it goes and i am really looking forward to the new cutting stack!!!
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trailer36 said:
I fully understand thats there is no ill will. We ask for honesty and we understand.
take care
tiggermoon
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tiggermoon said:
please forgive that ity has taken so long to update.
but due to "circus-dances" i have been unable to get here until now.
after 2 weeks on the beta/pwerFull stack (4beta 3 powerFull 3 times a day) muscle measurements have remained the same :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
but at the beginning of week 2 i got an attack of acne. :wtf: i was able to control it with OTC clearasil, but i did since then cut the dosage back to 2 times a day instead of 3.
cutting back the dose has not seemed to adversely affect my WO.
anyway it is time to start cutting for summer. in keeping with that i have begun experimenting with gymnema.
1 teaspoon 10 to 15 minutes before meals and snacks.
since then i have lost 3/4" around my waist. :woohoo::woohoo:
whether fat loss or water loss i am not sure. i did not take fat-caliper measurements at the start of the gymnema experiment. but.....i am 3/4" slimmer, 4 pounds lighter, and muscle mearsurments have remained unchanged. :head::head::head::head:
i have started adding some cardio 3 days a week, but i know from experience that i could do hours of cardio on a daily basis and my waist-fat would just laugh at me.:sad::sad::sad
don't get old children, there's no future in it):sad::sad::sad:so it must have something to do with my supp' regimen.
hope that some of this was helpfull.