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Alright fellas... I thought I'd provide some detail on some products I recently tried from manufacturer ATS Labs out of Houston, TX. I thought I'd create a post in a thread as opposed to writing an official product review because I didn't go through with a full cycle. Anyways, hopefully this is helpful for anyone considering these products since I literally could not find ANY legit reviews on these products or of this company. A buddy of mine recommended all of these products as he used this stack for his fitness competition prepping. He's big-time and won some big-time events, so I knew I could trust his word. He also owns a Complete Nutrition store. I've lifted and eaten fairly healthy for years now, and I reached out for a PH for a boost to prepare for a trip to Brazil within 2 months time (who the hell doesn't want to look perfect for women in BRAZIL??). I was told this was a mild PH in comparison to others, and very effective. See below for a break down of my experience with these products. I also included my diet, workout schedule, and an image in my profile pic of my results after 3 weeks (can load a "before" image later).
Instructions for 2 month plan: Alpha Mass (mass gainer) 3x per day, including non-workout days. Continue for 2 weeks, then start 1024 (mass gainer/fat burner) stack 3x per day, along with Alpha Mass. After both bottles run out, start Reset (PCT) + Winnalean (fat burner).
1st week (Alpha Mass only): I wish I would have taken my BF% before starting this all. I'm a fit guy and I've had a defined 6 pack for most of my life. I'm 5'11", started out at 179 lbs, and I'm guessing 14% BF. I put on noticeable mass after just a few days, which I thought was crazy. A lot of the mass I'm sure was due to influx of blood, but again, looked more full and veins were protruding just 2-3 days in. Felt like an absolute monster in the gym. Lifted anything/everything. My consistent lifting partner was like "WTF man, you are beasting." No noticeable sides up through this point. Gained 5 lbs in 1st full week.
2nd week (Alpha Mass only): Around the 2nd week is when I began to be concerned with my hair. I am Asian and have a full, thick head of hair for 29 years old, but the area around my temples have been thinning just a tiny bit in the last few months (i may have been more paranoid since I knew PHs can cause hair loss). Don't know if it was in my head, or if this product actually accelerated the thinning, but I definitely noticed that it was starting to thin a little faster. I'm not talking massive hair loss/shedding, but again, just a bit more noticeable thinning around the temple area. I get my hair cut/faded weekly and my barber noticed it's going away as well. Around this time is when I had to make an effort to gel my hair in that area in a way that it covers up the thinning area (definitely sounded like a bro there, sorry). Aside from the hair, gains continued. Toward the end of the 2nd week, my closest friends were telling me how big I looked. At this point my shirts became more snug and I continued to gain noticeable strength. I weighed in at 187 lbs and 13.9% BF, which was a 7 lb gain from the previous week. Key issue: Joints starting aching like a mother f*cker around this time. I mentioned above, my friend/nutrition expert recommended this stack, only come to find out later that HE DIDN'T RECOMMEND ANY JOINT OR LIVER SUPPORT. My joints were hurting bad. We're talking my left wrist, left elbow, and left shoulder. It got to the point where I had to take a few days off completely because I was in so much pain. I literally thought it was from the lifting alone, which I'm sure had something to do with it since I was lifting more weight than every before, but I did some research online and found (literally everywhere lol) that joint pain is a common side with PHs, which should be planned for in advance. I was actually really upset - not only because I was idiotic enough to jump into this suggestion without my own research, but also because my friend hadn't given me a proper recommendation to support this PH cycle. Anyways, at that point, i loaded up on joint/liver support, fish oil and Chon, took a day off, and the pain slowly began to subside.
3rd week (started 1024 stack): My friends and I went on a ridiculous 10 mile (4k feet elevation in 3 mile section) hike on a Saturday which we didn't prepare for - we had very little food. Needless to say we were starving, hurting, and I spent most of the eating stuffing my face full of McDonald's and anything else I could get my hands on as soon as we got back into town. This set me back a couple days, but as soon as I started to get back into the groove, I noticed more ridiculous gains. Toward the end of the 3rd week, I weighed in at 193 on the same Physician's scale I'd been using from the beginning. Unfortunately, I took it easy on the weights since i was still in pain, but with my weight gain, I knew damn well my strength had increased big time. I can only imagine how much i would've benched had my joints not been hurting. I maxed 280 on bench during the 1st week of the cycle - at this point, I felt like I could push 300 lbs. Here's the kicker - I noticed a random balding spot on my right side, below my temple, pretty much on the edge of my side-burn. This had never happened before and my barber said it could be due to stress/lack of sleep (he clearly didn't know I was on PH). Keep in mind, I started the 1024 stack at the beginning of this week, and I read online that 1024 has "Superdrol" in it and found online that it can cause balding). Going bald in that area was just completely nonsensical, and although it was a small spot, it was noticeable enough, and along with my join pain, I decided to discontinue the cycle and cut it about 2 weeks short. I weighed in at 193 on the last day of the 3rd week (14 POUNDS IN 3 WEEKS, BF probably hovered around 14.5-15%), looked solid, and aside from the hair-loss scare, I experienced no other sides - no mood swings, no aggression, no acne, no libido issues. At that point, I thought it'd be best to continue my strong diet as is, and begin the PCT process with the ATS Labs Reset product. I figured I'd rather lose some muscle than lose my hair early - no question about that.
Conclusion - If you're looking for a solid mild PH with very little sides, this might be the one. For those of you without hair, or that aren't concerned with their hair, I recommend this 100%. Considering the huge gains in lean mass over a 3 week period, it's pretty scary to think just how big I could have gotten had I done this right and taken liver/joint support in advance, before I started this cycle (and not lost my hair). I would've easily gained 20+ lbs in a 5 week period. I don't know much about steroids or PHs, but that's pretty damn good for a "mild" PH. I would consider trying this again down the road. I'll post a follow up before my trip once I've completed the Winnalean (fat burner) and let you guys know how that and the PCT (Reset) worked out. Below are some more details of my 3 weeks. You'll see I did it all right for the most part. Some parts of me wondered: "how much of this is the PH vs. me eating/lifting/taking the other supplements?" Regardless, I don't think I would've seen results this strong without the PH cycle over the 3 week period. Thanks for reading.
Duration: 3 weeks
Start: 179 lbs, 14% BF (BF estimate)
End: 193 lbs, 14% BF
Alpha Mass (Mass gainer): 3x daily
1024 (Mass gainer/fat burner): 3x daily
Reset PCT - Just started the PCT.
Winnalean - Haven't started it yet. I plan to start this in 2 weeks (30 days prior to trip).
Worked out 5-6x per week. Heavy lifts, 3x8. 2 muscle groups daily.
Very little cardio (some HIT with 30 min. hoop sessions, but maybe a total of 4 cardio sessions in the 3 week period, including the long hike) Didn't incorporate it into my fitness schedule, although doing so would've only made me more solid.
Other supplements taken: Whey protein, BCAAs, Glutamine, Creatine (Con-Crete), pre-workout (1.M.R).
Diet: Kept it clean for the most part, maybe 1-2 cheat meals per week (also, drank alcohol once, a few shots on a Saturday night). Limited sugars, expect for after post-workout. Clean bulk diet provided by my friend who did fitness comps. For my cutting, I plan to cut carbs in half and begin incorporating more cardio. I'll manage cals/carbs depending on how I progress week to week.
Diet during PH cycle:
3,000-3,400 cals per day
400g carbs
250g protein
85g fat
50g sugar (the majority for post-workout, cut as much sugars as possible otherwise)
Instructions for 2 month plan: Alpha Mass (mass gainer) 3x per day, including non-workout days. Continue for 2 weeks, then start 1024 (mass gainer/fat burner) stack 3x per day, along with Alpha Mass. After both bottles run out, start Reset (PCT) + Winnalean (fat burner).
1st week (Alpha Mass only): I wish I would have taken my BF% before starting this all. I'm a fit guy and I've had a defined 6 pack for most of my life. I'm 5'11", started out at 179 lbs, and I'm guessing 14% BF. I put on noticeable mass after just a few days, which I thought was crazy. A lot of the mass I'm sure was due to influx of blood, but again, looked more full and veins were protruding just 2-3 days in. Felt like an absolute monster in the gym. Lifted anything/everything. My consistent lifting partner was like "WTF man, you are beasting." No noticeable sides up through this point. Gained 5 lbs in 1st full week.
2nd week (Alpha Mass only): Around the 2nd week is when I began to be concerned with my hair. I am Asian and have a full, thick head of hair for 29 years old, but the area around my temples have been thinning just a tiny bit in the last few months (i may have been more paranoid since I knew PHs can cause hair loss). Don't know if it was in my head, or if this product actually accelerated the thinning, but I definitely noticed that it was starting to thin a little faster. I'm not talking massive hair loss/shedding, but again, just a bit more noticeable thinning around the temple area. I get my hair cut/faded weekly and my barber noticed it's going away as well. Around this time is when I had to make an effort to gel my hair in that area in a way that it covers up the thinning area (definitely sounded like a bro there, sorry). Aside from the hair, gains continued. Toward the end of the 2nd week, my closest friends were telling me how big I looked. At this point my shirts became more snug and I continued to gain noticeable strength. I weighed in at 187 lbs and 13.9% BF, which was a 7 lb gain from the previous week. Key issue: Joints starting aching like a mother f*cker around this time. I mentioned above, my friend/nutrition expert recommended this stack, only come to find out later that HE DIDN'T RECOMMEND ANY JOINT OR LIVER SUPPORT. My joints were hurting bad. We're talking my left wrist, left elbow, and left shoulder. It got to the point where I had to take a few days off completely because I was in so much pain. I literally thought it was from the lifting alone, which I'm sure had something to do with it since I was lifting more weight than every before, but I did some research online and found (literally everywhere lol) that joint pain is a common side with PHs, which should be planned for in advance. I was actually really upset - not only because I was idiotic enough to jump into this suggestion without my own research, but also because my friend hadn't given me a proper recommendation to support this PH cycle. Anyways, at that point, i loaded up on joint/liver support, fish oil and Chon, took a day off, and the pain slowly began to subside.
3rd week (started 1024 stack): My friends and I went on a ridiculous 10 mile (4k feet elevation in 3 mile section) hike on a Saturday which we didn't prepare for - we had very little food. Needless to say we were starving, hurting, and I spent most of the eating stuffing my face full of McDonald's and anything else I could get my hands on as soon as we got back into town. This set me back a couple days, but as soon as I started to get back into the groove, I noticed more ridiculous gains. Toward the end of the 3rd week, I weighed in at 193 on the same Physician's scale I'd been using from the beginning. Unfortunately, I took it easy on the weights since i was still in pain, but with my weight gain, I knew damn well my strength had increased big time. I can only imagine how much i would've benched had my joints not been hurting. I maxed 280 on bench during the 1st week of the cycle - at this point, I felt like I could push 300 lbs. Here's the kicker - I noticed a random balding spot on my right side, below my temple, pretty much on the edge of my side-burn. This had never happened before and my barber said it could be due to stress/lack of sleep (he clearly didn't know I was on PH). Keep in mind, I started the 1024 stack at the beginning of this week, and I read online that 1024 has "Superdrol" in it and found online that it can cause balding). Going bald in that area was just completely nonsensical, and although it was a small spot, it was noticeable enough, and along with my join pain, I decided to discontinue the cycle and cut it about 2 weeks short. I weighed in at 193 on the last day of the 3rd week (14 POUNDS IN 3 WEEKS, BF probably hovered around 14.5-15%), looked solid, and aside from the hair-loss scare, I experienced no other sides - no mood swings, no aggression, no acne, no libido issues. At that point, I thought it'd be best to continue my strong diet as is, and begin the PCT process with the ATS Labs Reset product. I figured I'd rather lose some muscle than lose my hair early - no question about that.
Conclusion - If you're looking for a solid mild PH with very little sides, this might be the one. For those of you without hair, or that aren't concerned with their hair, I recommend this 100%. Considering the huge gains in lean mass over a 3 week period, it's pretty scary to think just how big I could have gotten had I done this right and taken liver/joint support in advance, before I started this cycle (and not lost my hair). I would've easily gained 20+ lbs in a 5 week period. I don't know much about steroids or PHs, but that's pretty damn good for a "mild" PH. I would consider trying this again down the road. I'll post a follow up before my trip once I've completed the Winnalean (fat burner) and let you guys know how that and the PCT (Reset) worked out. Below are some more details of my 3 weeks. You'll see I did it all right for the most part. Some parts of me wondered: "how much of this is the PH vs. me eating/lifting/taking the other supplements?" Regardless, I don't think I would've seen results this strong without the PH cycle over the 3 week period. Thanks for reading.
Duration: 3 weeks
Start: 179 lbs, 14% BF (BF estimate)
End: 193 lbs, 14% BF
Alpha Mass (Mass gainer): 3x daily
1024 (Mass gainer/fat burner): 3x daily
Reset PCT - Just started the PCT.
Winnalean - Haven't started it yet. I plan to start this in 2 weeks (30 days prior to trip).
Worked out 5-6x per week. Heavy lifts, 3x8. 2 muscle groups daily.
Very little cardio (some HIT with 30 min. hoop sessions, but maybe a total of 4 cardio sessions in the 3 week period, including the long hike) Didn't incorporate it into my fitness schedule, although doing so would've only made me more solid.
Other supplements taken: Whey protein, BCAAs, Glutamine, Creatine (Con-Crete), pre-workout (1.M.R).
Diet: Kept it clean for the most part, maybe 1-2 cheat meals per week (also, drank alcohol once, a few shots on a Saturday night). Limited sugars, expect for after post-workout. Clean bulk diet provided by my friend who did fitness comps. For my cutting, I plan to cut carbs in half and begin incorporating more cardio. I'll manage cals/carbs depending on how I progress week to week.
Diet during PH cycle:
3,000-3,400 cals per day
400g carbs
250g protein
85g fat
50g sugar (the majority for post-workout, cut as much sugars as possible otherwise)
