Ashwagandha Dosage/Brand

Oh okay. Well, that solves it. I love how I feel on Ashwagandha and usually I've used things in prop blends, never the solo product. I usually only got a maximum of 200mg. I wonder what its like at 500 and above...
 
Don't concentrate too much on the mg since the extract % and method makes a difference. That is why KSM-66 can be that much more effective than other ashwaghanda at higher doses.

Keep in mind that the difference, if you notice it at all, will be minimal. Most of the ashwagandha products out in at least 2.5% are good.
 
Just for clarification, are we talking 6,000mg a day for KSM66?

Danes said:
According to examine:
Very common dose is 300-500mg.
The optimal dose is 6,000mg a day usually divided into three doses (2,000mg) and while 300-500mg is effective for most situations a lower dose of 50-100mg can be seen as effective in few instances such as reducing the immunosuppression seen with stress and augmenting anxiolytic (anxiety reducing agents).

Sensoril and KSM66 are both used in scientific studies and have their efficacy proven.

2 months on and couple of weeks off could be a good idea
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You need to take Examine with a grain of salt and pull out what is necessary. With most anecdotal effectiveness being in the 500-1000mg range and even stating that being where most results are found in the Examine doc, it seems odd that they would state 5-6x more being optimal. Optimal for what I would ask?

As far as KSM-66, 500mg a day split twice is what I find the most effective.
 
kisaj said:
You need to take Examine with a grain of salt and pull out what is necessary. With most anecdotal effectiveness being in the 500-1000mg range and even stating that being where most results are found in the Examine doc, it seems odd that they would state 5-6x more being optimal. Optimal for what I would ask?

As far as KSM-66, 500mg a day split twice is what I find the most effective.
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From what I read, they figured the "optimal" dose based on the highest dose used in a study, although I read through the full text of said study, and it didn't mention the extraction method or any information regarding the extract (ratio, % withanolides, etc). Also, the study that used 6g (2g 3x daily) was in cancer patients undergoing chemo. There are PLENTY of other studies to base ashwagandha dosing on, and I'd dose it according to withanolide content.
 
kisaj said:
You need to take Examine with a grain of salt and pull out what is necessary. With most anecdotal effectiveness being in the 500-1000mg range and even stating that being where most results are found in the Examine doc, it seems odd that they would state 5-6x more being optimal. Optimal for what I would ask?

As far as KSM-66, 500mg a day split twice is what I find the most effective.
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I know many people who dose KSM 66 3-4g daily (splitting doses). They feel excelent. While some feel great with 500mg. It is not toxic and it would not provide any bad sides either. So playing with higher doses could actually be good thing
 
You know many people running through bottles of KSM-66 in 3-5 days seems like an exaggeration or pretty silly to do. But, if you do, then good for them I guess. Doesn't explain how that is an optimal dose or where that was derived from.
 
kisaj said:
You know many people running through bottles of KSM-66 in 3-5 days seems like an exaggeration or pretty silly to do. But, if you do, then good for them I guess. Doesn't explain how that is an optimal dose or where that was derived from.
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Optimal dose, well I am not sure what they mean with optimal dose, but for a good Adaptogen effect, higher doses could do the trick. Ofcourse you will notice something at 500mg daily but people should try higher doses.

Here is an example:
Scientists used 750mg PA daily in their study. Does it mean 750mg is more than enough? Far from truth ! Same with KSM 66 and LOT and i mean LOT of ingredients!

Just take chinese/japanese KAMPO medicines where herbs and plants are used. We are not talking about miligrams but grams of potent extracts.
 
kisaj said:
NOW stopped using the old label stating 4.5% withonolides years ago. They state mim 2.5%. Either you have old bottles or they are mislabeled.
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Thanks. Just checked my bottle. Looks like I need to tell my retailer to update their web page.
 
Danes said:
I know many people who dose KSM 66 3-4g daily (splitting doses). They feel excelent. While some feel great with 500mg. It is not toxic and it would not provide any bad sides either. So playing with higher doses could actually be good thing
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Dude I would not be able to function at those doses with KSM-66!
 
Danes said:
Buddy, not you or maybe not me, but for some people 2g works like 500mg for you :)
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lol...some people actually get a buzz from a 5hour energy drink!!!

others use 3 scoops of stimul8+2bronkaid.
 
thebigt said:
lol...some people actually get a buzz from a 5hour energy drink!!!

others use 3 scoops of stimul8+2bronkaid.
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Correct :)
It is like with medicines too.
Some takes low dose of opiates/opioids such as tramadol (opioid) and gets wasted while my body dont respond to those medicines so much as other people.
To make a story short, my doc gave me tramadol for the pain. I took 2 and nothing happened.1 hour later I took 2 more and so on . After 12 tramadol pills I felt something lol. While my friend took just one pill and he was wasted !
 
Danes said:
Correct :)
It is like with medicines too.
Some takes low dose of opiates/opioids such as tramadol (opioid) and gets wasted while my body dont respond to those medicines so much as other people.
To make a story short, my doc gave me tramadol for the pain. I took 2 and nothing happened.1 hour later I took 2 more and so on . After 12 tramadol pills I felt something lol. While my friend took just one pill and he was wasted !
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good example. if I took 12 tramadol I would sleep for 48 hours, lol.
 
they did a test on my mom and it showed that her body metabolizes certain types of compounds at much higher rates than most people. This is why they had to keep raising the dose of her anxiety/depression medication so often. It'd be interesting to have something like this done I think.
 
Nyrin said:
It's an adaptogen. Lots of 'general health' benefits, but particularly good for stress relief/relaxation. Examine.com's summary is decent: Invalid Link Removed

OP, both Sensoril and KSM-66 are good extracts. You mainly want to avoid any non-standardized ones, as you have no idea how useful (or useless) a blind dose is.

I'd recommend starting out with a dose in the evening, then consider adding a morning dose if you tolerate it well. I've never experienced any acute sedation effects from it (and I'm somewhat skeptical of accounts claiming it), but always better to err with caution.

My favorite was the Sensoril in Abyss Unparalleled -- I hope that product makes a comeback.

I'm not aware of any toxicity or dependency issues that make cycling it necessary, but I'm sure the boilerplate recommendations for things without tons of long-term safety data apply.
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off topic but what is the boilerplate recommendation?? and would that need to be used for epicatechin
 
TheIronAsylum said:
???^
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Boiler Plate is the crap that everyone puts on everything: Ask your doctor, only use for a month, take 2 months off, don't take more than the label, etc...

You aren't looking for some pearls of wisdom, are you?

So yes, the Boiler Plate applies to -(-)Epi too... if you ask a mfg.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Boiler Plate is the crap that everyone puts on everything: Ask your doctor, only use for a month, take 2 months off, don't take more than the label, etc...

You aren't looking for some pearls of wisdom, are you?

So yes, the Boiler Plate applies to -(-)Epi too... if you ask a mfg.
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If you ask a mutha f$&@ing gansta????
 
Hey,
my whole family is using ashwagandha.
Including my cousin in London.
He has been ordering Organic Ashwagandha KSM-66 by PURE HEALTH in UK. Works fine for him.
 
Nice thread, I've been taking OL Ash for over a year now cause its always a $20 b1g1 free at Nutriverse. 5,000 mg and standardized to 1.5%:iirc correctly, so what's that, 75 mg withanolides? I take l 8 caps before bed, occasionally I burp and my mouth tastes of horse, once powder erupted out too, freaked my wife out for sure.
 
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