German volume training was great, the humungous volume of drugs used by German athletes in the 70's worked wonders! Its just a coincidence that it burst on the scene around the time that German, in fact Eastern European drug use among athletes was rampant. Bottom line, drug reliance teaches zero about how to train, or eat, or supplement. Otherwise it, drug use, wouldn't be necessary. And sadly, to this day, drug reliance, which has been rife in bodybuilding, sports and athletics since the 1950's has shaped even the training of the average person. Anyone that trusts a drug addict is very naive, a bit like lending a gambling addict or alcoholic 50 bucks and expecting it back. How dare you... not our poor, innocent Lance!!! leave Arny alone, he's a good ol' honest legend and role model!