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Article: Squat Free Leg Workouts

Or maybe you ruined your knee in the Army and can't do squats anymore after 4 surgeries...or you can be an idiot and talk trash
 
Nail on head brother

jamesm11 said:
Or maybe you ruined your knee in the Army and can't do squats anymore after 4 surgeries...or you can be an idiot and talk trash
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I don't believe leg press is good on the back. Some machines are better than others, but for the most part, they are murder on the low back. Bend over like you're tying your shoe, near a 45 to 90 degree angle. Now, do a squat. Murder on both knees and lower back. That's basically a leg press, the fact the trunk is stable doesn't really matter. The reason it's not called out more is that most people go light on leg press, ten reps and up is common, which doesn't stress the back.
In comparison, most people want to go heavy on squats, 6-8 reps or less. Endurance is more of a factor in squats if you want to go over ten reps, making it more of a total body exercise than just a leg exercise. If you were to build up your endurance - with a lower intensity, squats could be performed, if one can do a leg press. If the back is severely injured/unstable, most likely neither exercise should be performed.
If the load is the same for both exercises, I'd take some form of squat over leg press any day. Though, for many people, the leg press is a superior quad exercise from a purely bodybuilding perspective.
 
killandgo said:
I don't believe leg press is good on the back. Some machines are better than others, but for the most part, they are murder on the low back. Bend over like you're tying your shoe, near a 45 to 90 degree angle. Now, do a squat. Murder on both knees and lower back. That's basically a leg press, the fact the trunk is stable doesn't really matter. The reason it's not called out more is that most people go light on leg press, ten reps and up is common, which doesn't stress the back.
In comparison, most people want to go heavy on squats, 6-8 reps or less. Endurance is more of a factor in squats if you want to go over ten reps, making it more of a total body exercise than just a leg exercise. If you were to build up your endurance - with a lower intensity, squats could be performed, if one can do a leg press. If the back is severely injured/unstable, most likely neither exercise should be performed.
If the load is the same for both exercises, I'd take some form of squat over leg press any day. Though, for many people, the leg press is a superior quad exercise from a purely bodybuilding perspective.
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It only causes problems depending how deep someone goes when doing a leg press
 
DanielRM said:
Then maybe you should just have said that instead
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Why? I like seeing all the but hurt from kids with tiny legs justifying how they can let press 1,000lbs with quarter reps :D can't I have fun?! AM I NOT ALLOWED TO HAZ FUNZ?!
 
EatMoar said:
Why? I like seeing all the but hurt from kids with tiny legs justifying how they can let press 1,000lbs with quarter reps :D can't I have fun?! AM I NOT ALLOWED TO HAZ FUNZ?!
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NO! ( insert grumpy cat meme)
 
EatMoar said:
Why? I like seeing all the but hurt from kids with tiny legs justifying how they can let press 1,000lbs with quarter reps :D can't I have fun?! AM I NOT ALLOWED TO HAZ FUNZ?!
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Come on EM, you know it's generally the noobs on here who have problems with long time AM members off hand comments. When was the last time anyone on the DB's at the gym thread had an issue with comments like that? NEVER. just gotta take their whining with a grain of salt.
 
Since I already have heavy split squats (one leg resting on the bench) in the first part of training, do you think high-rep dumbbell squats could be a good alternative to backsquatting for finishing off the leg-day?
 
mountainman33 said:
Come on EM, you know it's generally the noobs on here who have problems with long time AM members off hand comments. When was the last time anyone on the DB's at the gym thread had an issue with comments like that? NEVER. just gotta take their whining with a grain of salt.
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Ah you're right. My fault. Back to the DB thread for funs!
 
wiseman said:
Exactly! Dorian Yates never did squats and he was 6x Mr. Olympia. People need to learn to stfu
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but this is quite inaccurate and false, in reality
dorian was a big free-weight squatter in his early days..
but as a great many of the "successful" guys tend to do, they find their own strengths and form their own opinions on what works for THEM, not staying confined to what perceptions or beliefs everyone else has

just wanted to clear that up for you, so you can go forward better factually informed ;)
 
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