Article: Overnight Eating Plan

I will try what Jamie Lewis advises and have a shake ready in my bathroom to knock back during the midnight piss.

Other than that would't be a fatty meal a few hours before sleep be awesome since fat gets digested slower than carbs?
 
keithgeiling said:
THIS^^^^^^^
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It doesnt even come close to mentioning anything about nutrient partitioning, insulin resistance, gh-upregulation, increased igf sensitivity, basically everything that,endocrinologically and physiologically speaking (aka truth) that happens when your sleeping and or repairing muscle tissue. This is a recipe to get fat unless you happened to train about an hour before you went to bed lol
 
MANotaur said:
It doesnt even come close to mentioning anything about nutrient partitioning, insulin resistance, gh-upregulation, increased igf sensitivity, basically everything that,endocrinologically and physiologically speaking (aka truth) that happens when your sleeping and or repairing muscle tissue. This is a recipe to get fat unless you happened to train about an hour before you went to bed lol
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I agree.. With all the studies of maximum growth happening while in REM sleep, I think it would be crazy to wake yourself to do anything. But I've seen crazier things.
 
"Sleep means growth, but it also means the breakdown of muscle tissue for energy" I call bro-science on this, food remains in your system for 16 hours after eating and will continue to leach aminos meaning a steady supply.

Eating during the night is fine is you’re a sumo wrestler but for the average bodybuilder you would be better served by getting 8 - 10 hours unbroken sleep.

I run lean gains and I am in the best shape of my life (38), I fast for 16 - 20 hours daily and I am stronger than ever. I train fasted and eat 3 or four hours after finishing lifting. It has been proven that eating too much too soon after lifting is counterproductive to effective digestion. Where do you think all the blood is after training, it’s in your muscles and carrying away all the waste products your muscles produce.

Digestion requires a massive amount of blood and energy which is why training on a full stomach is a bad idea. You only have so much blood in your system and if you’re asking your muscles and your gut to use it at the same time, something has to give.

The human body will only grow a finite amount of lean tissue so stuffing more food in only leads to fat gain, that is unless your chemically enhanced and even then the best way to eat is to eat just enough.

All this nonsense about food, food timing isn't all that important, what is important is maintaining a small calorie excess over a period of several days, your body is adept at smoothing out the bumps which is why weight loss and weight gain tends to come in spurts. Eating a little less one day and a little more the other doesn't hurt.

Gains come with hard work and consistency over a long period of time. Enjoy your food and sleep and don't worry about your muscles falling away because you missed a shake or didn’t eat 1000cals right before bed.
 
shedman said:
"Sleep means growth, but it also means the breakdown of muscle tissue for energy" I call bro-science on this, food remains in your system for 16 hours after eating and will continue to leach aminos meaning a steady supply.

Eating during the night is fine is you're a sumo wrestler but for the average bodybuilder you would be better served by getting 8 - 10 hours unbroken sleep.

I run lean gains and I am in the best shape of my life (38), I fast for 16 - 20 hours daily and I am stronger than ever. I train fasted and eat 3 or four hours after finishing lifting. It has been proven that eating too much too soon after lifting is counterproductive to effective digestion. Where do you think all the blood is after training, it's in your muscles and carrying away all the waste products your muscles produce.

Digestion requires a massive amount of blood and energy which is why training on a full stomach is a bad idea. You only have so much blood in your system and if you're asking your muscles and your gut to use it at the same time, something has to give.

The human body will only grow a finite amount of lean tissue so stuffing more food in only leads to fat gain, that is unless your chemically enhanced and even then the best way to eat is to eat just enough.

All this nonsense about food, food timing isn't all that important, what is important is maintaining a small calorie excess over a period of several days, your body is adept at smoothing out the bumps which is why weight loss and weight gain tends to come in spurts. Eating a little less one day and a little more the other doesn't hurt.

Gains come with hard work and consistency over a long period of time. Enjoy your food and sleep and don't worry about your muscles falling away because you missed a shake or didn't eat 1000cals right before bed.
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All good points and well said brother. I dont agree 100 percent on somethings you said and nutrient partitioning (ultimate Reason for digestion) and is a little more complex than just blood flow. Even though your right about having x volume of blood at any given time-the body has the ability to produce more/excess in times of need such as stress or for tissue development or for other phyaical processes.
 
LOL at people crying about waking up in the middle of the night to eat... If your one of the few who actually sleeps a full 8 hrs without waking up once you're a rare breed.
 
Adrena1ine said:
LOL at people crying about waking up in the middle of the night to eat... If your one of the few who actually sleeps a full 8 hrs without waking up once you're a rare breed.
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I do...everynight..usially 9 actually
 
Adrena1ine said:
LOL at people crying about waking up in the middle of the night to eat... If your one of the few who actually sleeps a full 8 hrs without waking up once you're a rare breed.
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And nobody is crying about it-its just plain wrong. Basic physiology dictates that it is. Just becauase it came from a muscle magazine doesnt make ot true or worth trying. If you like it and your some physiological or genetix anomaly that can do this and pack on anything but fat- by all means do it
 
Adrena1ine said:
Whatever you're taking I need some...
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A schedule and work?? If you have trouble sleeping through the night thats the abnormality. Talk to your doc about it if its that big of a problem. You couldnhave sleep apnea or so, me other disorder related to other stress.
 
MANotaur said:
A schedule and work?? If you have trouble sleeping through the night thats the abnormality. Talk to your doc about it if its that big of a problem. You couldnhave sleep apnea or so, me other disorder related to other stress.
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I work night shift 3 days a week. The first night I come off I sleep like a brick. The subsequent nights I'm either waking up to piss or something of the sorts.
 
Adrena1ine said:
I work night shift 3 days a week. The first night I come off I sleep like a brick. The subsequent nights I'm either waking up to piss or something of the sorts.
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Yeah night shifts suxk. Wspecially of theyre not all the time thwy cam really eff things up bad. It still might not be a bad idea to talk to a doc and amd jusr mention it next time you go in. How old are you if you dont mind my askong?
 
MANotaur said:
Yeah night shifts suxk. Wspecially of theyre not all the time thwy cam really eff things up bad. It still might not be a bad idea to talk to a doc and amd jusr mention it next time you go in. How old are you if you dont mind my askong?
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25. I take ZMA and HGH before bed sometimes and that seems to do the trick but its not consistent. I'm going to try melatonin this weekend.
 
Adrena1ine said:
25. I take ZMA and HGH before bed sometimes and that seems to do the trick but its not consistent. I'm going to try melatonin this weekend.
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That zma will make you piss like a pregnant woman. I would drop that in favor of the melatonin. Just be carefull and try not to go above 5 mg cause it will make you super groggy and almost hung over in the morning.
 
MANotaur said:
That zma will make you piss like a pregnant woman. I would drop that in favor of the melatonin. Just be carefull and try not to go above 5 mg cause it will make you super groggy and almost hung over in the morning.
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Yeah I used to take Ambien and I would be tired till mid afternoon... Not to mention I didn't want start on narcotics.
 
Adrena1ine said:
Yeah I used to take Ambien and I would be tired till mid afternoon... Not to mention I didn't want start on narcotics.
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Well ambien isnt a narcotic-its in the sedetive/hypnotic class of drugs.

But i still understand what your saying. You dont want to become dependant on any drug for any reason.

I Like your idea about the melatonin. Its a safer bet and doeant come with the chamce of dependance. Also look at diphenhydramine. Enough of that will knock out a rhino-or keep you up all night lol
 
the Phoenix said:
No offense taken because it I understand that you obviously aren't aware of my situation because we have no means of being acquainted and you really can't get much information off of my profile therefore I am not defensive nor made to feel insecure by your perspective.

If lean muscle was my goal, I have no problem obtaining it, considering I've been doing this for almost 20 years, but it is winter time for me, it is not necessary to be concerned with putting on pounds. The issue I have is with keeping the weight.

Be in peace >-
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Take no offense to anything this guy posts. Almost every post he has made on this forum so far has been negative. He' s just a troll
 
the Phoenix said:
LOL - yes, I am trolling around for insightful information on anabolics and gaining mass. What's negative about wanting to gain wait? when did fat become a bad word? I am on this forum for networking; why are you here?
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Bro chill lol he wasnt talking about you he was rederring to "I Know" and his comments toward you
 
MANotaur said:
Well ambien isnt a narcotic-its in the sedetive/hypnotic class of drugs.

But i still understand what your saying. You dont want to become dependant on any drug for any reason.

I Like your idea about the melatonin. Its a safer bet and doeant come with the chamce of dependance. Also look at diphenhydramine. Enough of that will knock out a rhino-or keep you up all night lol
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Yeah def can't do Benadryl. Has always had an adverse reaction with me.
 
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