Article: Denver Charging You To Work Out In A Park
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compudog
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It's just another tax. If any of the individuals in the fitness group wanted to use the park, say for jogging, no-one would ask them to pay. So why should they pay when they work out as part of a group? The fact is, money is changing hands so the govt. wants their cut. It's a tax.
fueledpassion
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Because it isn't quite the same as an individual taking a jog. That individual isn't running a business as they are jogging. They aren't creating value and making a profit from someone else so it isn't an issue.
I agree that it's just another ploy at taking money from someone else who earned it - Colorado is ever-increasing their socialist agendas these days. Regardless, hats off to Colorado for coming up with a clever excuse to tax someone else's success, lol.
Two other thoughts I have on personal trainers using free landscape for business ventures:
1) It looks bad. They appear to be free-loaders from the outside looking in. No rent. Possibly no insurance.
2) Then again, when I apply the principles of Capitalism (which is far superior to any other form of economy), I have to say that the personal trainers are adapting to a crappy, over-inflated economy that is hard to make a living in. It's brilliant, actually. They have found a sly yet very legal way to reduce costs. People like that are going to add value to our economy in years to come. So hats off to them as well.
I agree that it's just another ploy at taking money from someone else who earned it - Colorado is ever-increasing their socialist agendas these days. Regardless, hats off to Colorado for coming up with a clever excuse to tax someone else's success, lol.
Two other thoughts I have on personal trainers using free landscape for business ventures:
1) It looks bad. They appear to be free-loaders from the outside looking in. No rent. Possibly no insurance.
2) Then again, when I apply the principles of Capitalism (which is far superior to any other form of economy), I have to say that the personal trainers are adapting to a crappy, over-inflated economy that is hard to make a living in. It's brilliant, actually. They have found a sly yet very legal way to reduce costs. People like that are going to add value to our economy in years to come. So hats off to them as well.
compudog
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Not so sure about that business model. If the trainers in question have year round businesses, then they can probably only do the outdoor thing for part of the year right? My guess would be that their studio is empty on days when the instruction is outdoors. I don't know if they could actually avoid paying rent, what would they do if it rained? Or if it was a rainy summer? I think it's just nice to work out outdoors when the weather is good.
& Who's to say someone jogging isn't running a business? The trainers at the gym I go to teach running classes all the time. I think the group doing yoga or what have you is just more visible.
fueledpassion
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well, you can do group jogging and charge a fee, but if you have a pack of 10 people following you around, that might also grab someone's attention in a negative way.
Honestly, I know a guy here locally that does a bootcamp outside in his church's lawn. He charges $3 a visit and does a MWF schedule for about 75 minutes w/ 60 minutes of actual training, rain or shine. People come. He regularly has 15-30 clients each visit and make a decent side living off that, generating anywhere from $500 to $1000 a month for about 5-6 hours of work per week. Not bad.
So yeah that model could work under certain circumstances, but I wasn't suggesting it was a trainer's ONLY business model but rather an aspect of his business that is cost-friendly. It's always impressive to find ways to reduce your cost, increase the satisfaction of your customers and generate more revenue from it.
And you could be right about them shutting their studio down to go do things outside for the sake of a pleasant change in scenery. However, I'm also certain there are many trainers doing this on the side, as most personal trainers do, and are looking for ways to work for themselves but also have a medium to train in. Too many gyms want you to be an employee for them as a trainer, and they take too much off the top and cap your rates, too. Unless you have your own gym, it's really hard to bust $40K/year doing personal training alone.
Honestly, I know a guy here locally that does a bootcamp outside in his church's lawn. He charges $3 a visit and does a MWF schedule for about 75 minutes w/ 60 minutes of actual training, rain or shine. People come. He regularly has 15-30 clients each visit and make a decent side living off that, generating anywhere from $500 to $1000 a month for about 5-6 hours of work per week. Not bad.
So yeah that model could work under certain circumstances, but I wasn't suggesting it was a trainer's ONLY business model but rather an aspect of his business that is cost-friendly. It's always impressive to find ways to reduce your cost, increase the satisfaction of your customers and generate more revenue from it.
And you could be right about them shutting their studio down to go do things outside for the sake of a pleasant change in scenery. However, I'm also certain there are many trainers doing this on the side, as most personal trainers do, and are looking for ways to work for themselves but also have a medium to train in. Too many gyms want you to be an employee for them as a trainer, and they take too much off the top and cap your rates, too. Unless you have your own gym, it's really hard to bust $40K/year doing personal training alone.