Article: Creatine Better Post Workout

"Results showed that there was a significant time effect for fat-free mass and the bench press, but fat mass and body weight did not change significantly."

This doesn't add up to me. If fat-free mass goes up, but body weight is unchanged, then fat mass must go down. Or if fat-free mass goes up but fat mass is unchanged, then body weight must go up.

So how can fat-free mass go up, but fass mass and bodyweight is unchanged? This doesn't make any sense to me.
 
But...who was phone?


Seriously though, if you are on creatine for any significant period of time, your muscles are saturated. I don't see how timing can be relevant if you maintain that saturation.
 
Ima sprinkle creatine in my post workout snickers bar so ill have creatine and sugar at once. Olympia here I come
 
twiztid7 said:
But...who was phone?

Seriously though, if you are on creatine for any significant period of time, your muscles are saturated. I don't see how timing can be relevant if you maintain that saturation.
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Totally agree with that... It's like saying injecting long esters post workout makes a difference.
 
audix2359 said:
"Results showed that there was a significant time effect for fat-free mass and the bench press, but fat mass and body weight did not change significantly."

This doesn't add up to me. If fat-free mass goes up, but body weight is unchanged, then fat mass must go down. Or if fat-free mass goes up but fat mass is unchanged, then body weight must go up.

So how can fat-free mass go up, but fass mass and bodyweight is unchanged? This doesn't make any sense to me.
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I think they mean statistically significant, which means that if the same results turn up for a larger sample size or for a longer period, it could grow to significance.
 
Yet another creatine article advocating splitting hairs and overanalyzing of creatine supplementation.

And an annoying attempt to market VPX.
 
Lighten up Francis...
 
Hajiroku said:
Assuming any of this is even applicable what are the proposed effects on those who take it pre and post?
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All you really need to know is that creatine is awesome. It works, and you should take it. For maximum affect it works better with an insulin response, e.g. carbs or a protein shake, or even both as the pathway activates better with insulin.
 
Pandabear said:
All you really need to know is that creatine is awesome. It works, and you should take it. For maximum affect it works better with an insulin response, e.g. carbs or a protein shake, or even both as the pathway activates better with insulin.
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do you have proof of this or is this just what you have heard and believe it?
 
R1balla said:
do you have proof of this or is this just what you have heard and believe it?
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Specifically this is due to the creatine uptake being stimulated in the small intestine and kidneys through an insulin response. There is some evidence to support though that high carb meals slow the absorption, ultimately though the key message is simple. Insulin + creatine helps with the absorption overall. There are other studies too, but my time is limited at the moment. Feel free to check the sources listed in the study, plenty of reference material in there.

Hope that Helps.
 
Pandabear said:
Here you go: Invalid Link Removed

Specifically this is due to the creatine uptake being stimulated in the small intestine and kidneys through an insulin response. There is some evidence to support though that high carb meals slow the absorption, ultimately though the key message is simple. Insulin + creatine helps with the absorption overall. There are other studies too, but my time is limited at the moment. Feel free to check the sources listed in the study, plenty of reference material in there.

Hope that Helps.
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nice read. i just have one issue. the article says it "may.... " and "it seems like...". no def answers.
 
R1balla said:
nice read. i just have one issue. the article says it "may.... " and "it seems like...". no def answers.
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This is true. Although most mechanisms are known when it comes to creatine there are some that are not as well researched. There is no definitive answer if you were looking for a "this is caused by", etc. Hard science takes a long time to become hard science. Even well established theories can take a long time to be grounded. In any case, when I look at a lot of new research I look for the common errors in weak papers, if it is one. If it isn't and there is more evidence to support the "may" and "It seems like" then I err on the side of the evidence. In this case I'll keep taking my creatine with my carby meals and protein shakes to induce an insulinegenic response as it appears it may help the skeletal muscle. But hey man, do whatever you like; it's one guys opinion eh? :)

Cheers,
 
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