Arachidonic acid while on anti inflammatory immunosuppressants.

Shadowblaze

Shadowblaze

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I have an autoimmune condition and am taking tofacitinib to treat it. Tofacitinib is a Jak inhibitor which blocks the JAK STAT pathway, lowering inflammatory factors like:
  • Interleukin 2 (IL-2)
  • Interleukin 4 (IL-4)
  • Interleukin 6 (IL-6)
  • Interleukin 7 (IL-7)
  • Interleukin 9 (IL-9)
  • Interleukin 15 (IL-15)
  • Interleukin 21 (IL-21)
I have talked with steve previously if arachidonic acid would cause inflammation in me and he gave me great insight but now im a bit concerned if my medication would lower the effectiveness of arachidonic acid.

I know that taking ARA with anti inflammatory products neutralizes its pro inflammatory muscle growth effects, would it be the same for immunosuppressants which lower inflammation?

I'll tag @sns8778 since he is very knowledgeable about all this. If anyone can give their experiences with or opinions it would be much appreciated.
 
Shadowblaze said:
I have an autoimmune condition and am taking tofacitinib to treat it. Tofacitinib is a Jak inhibitor which blocks the JAK STAT pathway, lowering inflammatory factors like:
  • Interleukin 2 (IL-2)
  • Interleukin 4 (IL-4)
  • Interleukin 6 (IL-6)
  • Interleukin 7 (IL-7)
  • Interleukin 9 (IL-9)
  • Interleukin 15 (IL-15)
  • Interleukin 21 (IL-21)
I have talked with steve previously if arachidonic acid would cause inflammation in me and he gave me great insight but now im a bit concerned if my medication would lower the effectiveness of arachidonic acid.

I know that taking ARA with anti inflammatory products neutralizes its pro inflammatory muscle growth effects, would it be the same for immunosuppressants which lower inflammation?

I'll tag @sns8778 since he is very knowledgeable about all this. If anyone can give their experiences with or opinions it would be much appreciated.
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You said: I know that taking ARA with anti inflammatory products neutralizes its pro inflammatory muscle growth effects

I wouldn't say that this part is necessarily true. Science, learning, and knowledge have come a long way in the last 10 years and there's more to it than that as a blanket statement, but I gave up on trying to explain that here because when I have, most people don't seem interested in learning about it.

You said: would it be the same for immunosuppressants which lower inflammation?

I think there's a good chance it may vary by the person, medication, dosage, etc.

Knowing a bit about you and your history, I wouldn't suggest trying it to see - bc you're doing well and as someone with an autoimmune condition myself, I feel that if you finally have it under control, its not worth the risk of messing it up.

I think that there are other options that can give you the same or close to the same results without the chance.
 
sns8778 said:
You said: I know that taking ARA with anti inflammatory products neutralizes its pro inflammatory muscle growth effects

I wouldn't say that this part is necessarily true. Science, learning, and knowledge have come a long way in the last 10 years and there's more to it than that as a blanket statement, but I gave up on trying to explain that here because when I have, most people don't seem interested in learning about it.

You said: would it be the same for immunosuppressants which lower inflammation?

I think there's a good chance it may vary by the person, medication, dosage, etc.

Knowing a bit about you and your history, I wouldn't suggest trying it to see - bc you're doing well and as someone with an autoimmune condition myself, I feel that if you finally have it under control, its not worth the risk of messing it up.

I think that there are other options that can give you the same or close to the same results without the chance.
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That makes sense, I remember talking with you previously you said that ARA mainly increases localized inflammation. I couldn’t actually find any studies showing that supplementation with it increases systemic inflammation.

Would prime be a better alternative with the same benefits in terms of muscle growth? I know it’s better for the strength gains.
 
Shadowblaze said:
That makes sense, I remember talking with you previously you said that ARA mainly increases localized inflammation. I couldn’t actually find any studies showing that supplementation with it increases systemic inflammation.

Would prime be a better alternative with the same benefits in terms of muscle growth? I know it’s better for the strength gains.
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1000%

Prime XT would be a good option.
For pumps and fullness, a lot of people compare Alpha One to X-Gels.

Pepti-Bolic may be of interest to you too because it can help with inflammation - I use Pepti-Plex as part of my year round supplement regimen because it helps me tremendously with mine.

As @LucasBagoDoce said, Phosphatidic Acid XT is a good option as well.
 
sns8778 said:
1000%

Prime XT would be a good option.
For pumps and fullness, a lot of people compare Alpha One to X-Gels.

Pepti-Bolic may be of interest to you too because it can help with inflammation - I use Pepti-Plex as part of my year round supplement regimen because it helps me tremendously with mine.

As @LucasBagoDoce said, Phosphatidic Acid XT is a good option as well.
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ok perfect, I can get it for a good price off your website. But I noticed you dont have anabolic xt in stock right now. When will you have it back in stock?
 
Shadowblaze said:
ok perfect, I can get it for a good price off your website. But I noticed you dont have anabolic xt in stock right now. When will you have it back in stock?
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We hope to have it back in stock within the next 3 weeks.
 
Shadowblaze said:
ok perfect, I can get it for a good price off your website. But I noticed you dont have anabolic xt in stock right now. When will you have it back in stock?
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We have it in stock at Strong Supplement Shop if you need some

www.strongsupplementshop.com

Anabolic XT by SNS

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Shadowblaze said:
That makes sense, I remember talking with you previously you said that ARA mainly increases localized inflammation. I couldn’t actually find any studies showing that supplementation with it increases systemic inflammation.

Would prime be a better alternative with the same benefits in terms of muscle growth? I know it’s better for the strength gains.
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Shadowblaze said:
I have an autoimmune condition and am taking tofacitinib to treat it. Tofacitinib is a Jak inhibitor which blocks the JAK STAT pathway, lowering inflammatory factors like:
  • Interleukin 2 (IL-2)
  • Interleukin 4 (IL-4)
  • Interleukin 6 (IL-6)
  • Interleukin 7 (IL-7)
  • Interleukin 9 (IL-9)
  • Interleukin 15 (IL-15)
  • Interleukin 21 (IL-21)
I have talked with steve previously if arachidonic acid would cause inflammation in me and he gave me great insight but now im a bit concerned if my medication would lower the effectiveness of arachidonic acid.

I know that taking ARA with anti inflammatory products neutralizes its pro inflammatory muscle growth effects, would it be the same for immunosuppressants which lower inflammation?

I'll tag @sns8778 since he is very knowledgeable about all this. If anyone can give their experiences with or opinions it would be much appreciated.
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You can read the following ARACHIDONIC ACID stack
After 10 weeks you will remember me
So
Arachidonic Acid 1500 mg-2000mg
I Swear to my life SNS Arachidonic acid maybe the best on supplement planet industry
SUPER
Glycerol MONOSTERATE OR G.M.S 6 GR
Aspirin the baby aspirin dose or second option even better PLCAR mean Propyonyl Carnitine
the best of the best oral form 3000mg
the legend ANABETA ELITE
Lecithin granules 30gr
Hydroxycttric Acid or HCA Plus
FINALLY YES YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT NEVER CONSUME ARA WITH OMEGA-3 AT
THE SAME TIME WHICH IS ONE OF THE BEST ANTI INFLAMMATORY SUPPLEMENTS
 
poluvolo said:
You can read the following ARACHIDONIC ACID stack
After 10 weeks you will remember me
So
Arachidonic Acid 1500 mg-2000mg
I Swear to my life SNS Arachidonic acid maybe the best on supplement planet industry
SUPER
Glycerol MONOSTERATE OR G.M.S 6 GR
Aspirin the baby aspirin dose or second option even better PLCAR mean Propyonyl Carnitine
the best of the best oral form 3000mg
the legend ANABETA ELITE
Lecithin granules 30gr
Hydroxycttric Acid or HCA Plus
FINALLY YES YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT NEVER CONSUME ARA WITH OMEGA-3 AT
THE SAME TIME WHICH IS ONE OF THE BEST ANTI INFLAMMATORY SUPPLEMENTS
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I dont quite understand what you mean. So you want me to take ARA?
How come you take aspirin?
I thought anabeta elite was discontinued a long time ago?
I already take lecithin granules

Thanks for the stack recommendation. what do you notice from it?
 
Shadowblaze said:
Thanks for the insight. I ordered pa xt, anabolic xt, mtest and prime instead.
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I do think arachidonic acid is effective at building muscle, especially when stacked with PA. But for me, the inflammation from the arachidonic acid was not worth it.
 
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