Apex-Alchemy Question

Quinn'sDad

Quinn'sDad

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Hey all, long time reader, first time poster. I have approximately 12 years experience running sarms cycles (two to three per year). I normally run two to three products per cycle, ranging from eight to sixteen weeks (depending on the substances). My most recent eight week cycle was S-23 (ramping from 6 mg to 10 mg / day over a 2 week period), Cardarine (10 mg / day), and Dermacrine (3 pumps / day) from April - May with Clomid pct for 4 weeks (50/50/25/25). I've also been running Somatozine (MA Labs) at one cap a day since beginning pct in June (8 days on / 4 days off). I plan to run the Somatozine indefinitely (possibly one year, maybe more). I also take 1,000 mg silymarin daily.

My next eight week cycle, beginning in September, will be S-23 (ramping from 6 mg to 10 mg / day over a 2 week period), Cardarine (10 mg / day), S-4 (50 mg / day), and Kronos (1 ml / day). I also have Ursa Major on order and was thinking about adding Flashpoint, as well as switching my pre-workout for Triton. Pct will be Tamoxifen (40/40/20/20) and Invictus (1 ml / day).

Yes, you read correctly, S-23 and S-4 together. I can't find any logs that incorporate the two (maybe I'm not looking hard or deep enough) and I've run S-4 more than any other sarm, so, what the hell?

Fat loss is the goal. I'm not concerned about weight, whether up or down (as long as my waist doesn't grow, don't want to buy new pants).

My ultimate question is, would you recommend the Ursa on cycle or during pct? And, if I add Flashpoint, should I incorporate it on cycle of during pct?

Current stats: 42 years old, 5'10", 175 lbs, 12% bf (I'll post pics at beginning of cycle).

Apologies for the lengthy post and appreciation for any feedback.
 
Quinn'sDad said:
Hey all, long time reader, first time poster. I have approximately 12 years experience running sarms cycles (two to three per year). I normally run two to three products per cycle, ranging from eight to sixteen weeks (depending on the substances). My most recent eight week cycle was S-23 (ramping from 6 mg to 10 mg / day over a 2 week period), Cardarine (10 mg / day), and Dermacrine (3 pumps / day) from April - May with Clomid pct for 4 weeks (50/50/25/25). I've also been running Somatozine (MA Labs) at one cap a day since beginning pct in June (8 days on / 4 days off). I plan to run the Somatozine indefinitely (possibly one year, maybe more). I also take 1,000 mg silymarin daily.

My next eight week cycle, beginning in September, will be S-23 (ramping from 6 mg to 10 mg / day over a 2 week period), Cardarine (10 mg / day), S-4 (50 mg / day), and Kronos (1 ml / day). I also have Ursa Major on order and was thinking about adding Flashpoint, as well as switching my pre-workout for Triton. Pct will be Tamoxifen (40/40/20/20) and Invictus (1 ml / day).

Yes, you read correctly, S-23 and S-4 together. I can't find any logs that incorporate the two (maybe I'm not looking hard or deep enough) and I've run S-4 more than any other sarm, so, what the hell?

Fat loss is the goal. I'm not concerned about weight, whether up or down (as long as my waist doesn't grow, don't want to buy new pants).

My ultimate question is, would you recommend the Ursa on cycle or during pct? And, if I add Flashpoint, should I incorporate it on cycle of during pct?

Current stats: 42 years old, 5'10", 175 lbs, 12% bf (I'll post pics at beginning of cycle).

Apologies for the lengthy post and appreciation for any feedback.
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Personally, I would run them during cycle and during PCT.

But, if I could only use them during cycle OR PCT, I think I'd choose PCT. Especially the Ursa.
 
Renew1 said:
Personally, I would run them during cycle and during PCT.

But, if I could only use them during cycle OR PCT, I think I'd choose PCT. Especially the Ursa.
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I might have to go with your first suggestion and run them for the full 12 weeks. That is, unless my wife has something to say about the amount of $ I'm spending on supplements.
 
i agree here as well..

for PCT i think epichaos and ursa will keep your mass and strip more fat while allowing you to boost calories which is so, so important during post cycle.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
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I ordered two bottles of ursa yesterday, but, per Renew1's suggestion, it looks like I'll need one more to run the cycle and pct. I'll place another order for the additional ursa, flashpoint, and triton. You've sold me on the epichaos, as well.

Will 1 ml / day be enough epichaos during pct or would you double it?
 
Doing something similar. Here’s the breakdown-
Triton 1-2ml pwo
Epichaos 2ml daily
Helios 1ml daily(year long)
Ursa 2ml daily(probably will go to 4ml after pct ends)
 
A lot of my intrigue and much of the info I've obtained in regard to Alex-Alchemy products came from reading through your log; however, it was the Slayer flag that ultimately drew my attention, haha.

I thought about doubling up on the ursa, but, I prefer to run the lowest effective dose to get the results i seek, so, I'm going to keep it at 1 ml / day for this run. I bought an extra epichaos just in case I decide to up the dosage. However, I'm going to follow xR1pp3Rx's suggestion and start at 1 ml and, worst case, I'll have an extra bottle for my next cycle.
 
Quinn'sDad said:
A lot of my intrigue and much of the info I've obtained in regard to Alex-Alchemy products came from reading through your log; however, it was the Slayer flag that ultimately drew my attention, haha.

I thought about doubling up on the ursa, but, I prefer to run the lowest effective dose to get the results i seek, so, I'm going to keep it at 1 ml / day for this run. I bought an extra epichaos just in case I decide to up the dosage. However, I'm going to follow xR1pp3Rx's suggestion and start at 1 ml and, worst case, I'll have an extra bottle for my next cycle.
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SLAaaaaayer

Yea I think that’s a good idea. I just have the personality where I wanna really see what it’s like to push the limits to get to my APEX… see what I did there?
 
wfreiling said:
SLAaaaaayer

Yea I think that’s a good idea. I just have the personality where I wanna really see what it’s like to push the limits to get to my APEX… see what I did there?
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Quinn'sDad said:
I might have to go with your first suggestion and run them for the full 12 weeks. That is, unless my wife has something to say about the amount of $ I'm spending on supplements.
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I’d run Helios on cycle and after to help with cholesterol @ 2ml. I was surprised how well it helped with that and BPH. DHT, Test and stems make my prostate hate me.
 
wfreiling said:
Yea I think that’s a good idea. I just have the personality where I wanna really see what it’s like to push the limits to get to my APEX… see what I did there?
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Can't fault you on that. I did my fair share of pushing my limits in my 20's through early-30's. I'll see how this next run goes and reassess.

JKVol said:
I’d run Helios on cycle and after to help with cholesterol @ 2ml. I was surprised how well it helped with that and BPH. DHT, Test and stems make my prostate hate me.
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I'll keep the Helios in mind for my next order. I've been fortunate through all the abuse I've inflicted on my body over the years that my cholesterol and bp have always checked out good.
 
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