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Woohoo! About to put in an order!

Maybe you all could provide some guidance, I'm getting ready to do a little 8 week recomp with Ursa, Dermacrine and Paradoxine. Trying to decide if I should run the Ursa at 2ml per day as planned or bump to 3ml? I don't want to cross the point of diminishing returns with it though. :/
 
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Helios Question: can I put in directly on my foot where the arthritis is?
 
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Ordering tonight before I lose out again.

Is Epichaos now a dropper too? I still have a bottle of the spray but could I just use a dropper instead?
Yes and yes.
 
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Woohoo! About to put in an order!

Maybe you all could provide some guidance, I'm getting ready to do a little 8 week recomp with Ursa, Dermacrine and Paradoxine. Trying to decide if I should run the Ursa at 2ml per day as planned or bump to 3ml? I don't want to cross the point of diminishing returns with it though. :/
start at 1 ml and add more as desired.. 2 ml is good dose but if 1ml does it for you starting out, then run it like that until you feel like the results are waning. add a little each time you bump it up~
 
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start at 1 ml and add more as desired.. 2 ml is good dose but if 1ml does it for you starting out, then run it like that until you feel like the results are waning. add a little each time you bump it up~
Thanks!! That's the kind of info I was looking for!
 
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Showed my personal friend who competes about the BOGO and he’s going to most likely grab dienogen and add it to his stack
 
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Damn I just ordered a week ago. So far really having a good sense of well being on Helios at 2 ml a day. This sale will allow me to run higher as price was issue
 

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Super jealous on that Dienogen!!
Really want to try it
One of the few "Old School" products still around. Used to use the Iron Legion Dienazone and even the older version called Trenazone. Solid compound that's been around many years.
 
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Yes, apologies. My wifi card crapped the bed and I prefer to handle correspondence when I'm at my PC. I'll be catching up on PMs tomorrow after a quick jaunt to Best Buy.
 
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Can people chime in on there general experience with each product?

I’m trying to take advantage of this sale in a big way, but want to hear some feedback. Product descriptions are vague and I’m reading as much as I can on each compound. I know this sounds like a basic request but I’m just crunched for time due to limited time of sale.

So far, I’m thinking of trying 6-oxo for estrogen control since on trt. Big fan of Helios as joints, sense of well being, and GI benefits are noticeable within first 2 weeks so I’ll be ordering more of that. Would like to play with other androgens but there are a few and I’m trying to research.

Thanks for your feedback.
 
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Can people chime in on there general experience with each product?

I’m trying to take advantage of this sale in a big way, but want to hear some feedback. Product descriptions are vague and I’m reading as much as I can on each compound.

Thanks for your feedback.
Kronos was a very good 11KT product last year for me during a cut, easily as good as the old Olympus Super-11 & with a much better spray nozzle.

Ursa Major I used in time off cycle this fall and it immediately and obviously gives you a pumped up look (I mean as you are applying it) and will increase your body temperature slightly, like your metabolism is increasing. I noticed increased endurance in my training and it seemed to have nutrient repartitioning effects that helped me use more food more effectively. Something you could use a lot of for a long time and only improve health.

Dienogen I haven’t used, but I am currently pinning dienelone enanthate for the last 8 weeks and it has promoted some terrific muscle growth & strength despite being in a deficit and dropping 5lbs on the scale. There is obviously much more fatloss that has actually occurred. A great 19-nor with a lot of horsepower vs the sides. You want to control your prolactin on it.
 
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Kronos was a very good 11KT product last year for me during a cut, easily as good as the old Olympus Super-11 & with a much better spray nozzle.

Ursa Major I used in time off cycle this fall and it immediately and obviously gives you a pumped up look (I mean as you are applying it) and will increase your body temperature slightly, like your metabolism is increasing. I noticed increased endurance in my training and it seemed to have nutrient repartitioning effects that helped me use more food more effectively. Something you could use a lot of for a long time and only improve health.

Dienogen I haven’t used, but I am currently pinning dienelone enanthate for the last 8 weeks and it has promoted some terrific muscle growth & strength despite being in a deficit and dropping 5lbs on the scale. There is obviously much more fatloss that has actually occurred. A great 19-nor with a lot of horsepower vs the sides. You want to control your prolactin on it.
This feedback is effing fantastic. Thank you! Ursa is another I want to give a considerable
Run to. What dose and duration do you recommend? Would you do anything different from your run?

I edited my original post and think I’ve narrowed it down to just needing an androgen
 
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This feedback is effing fantastic. Thank you! Ursa is another I want to give a considerable
Run to. What dose and duration do you recommend? Would you do anything different from your run?

I edited my original post and think I’ve narrowed it down to just needing an androgen
If you have never used an androgen besides your TRT, Dienelone is too advanced for a first run. You could use it but you really don’t need it with the other options available. I would use Kronos (11kt), perhaps with some Stanogen (epiandro), if trying to cut while maintaining lean mass and strength, and I would use Primagen (1andro with a touch of epiandro) if the cycle is focused on trying to gain lean mass.

6-oxo is definitely an estrogen control option. All of the androgens presented thru Apex won’t require any more AI inherently, so whatever amount of 6-oxo you need for your testosterone dose is all you would need regardless of whatever of these other androgens you would use (since they don’t aromatize). Maybe a hair more on dienelone for reasons I won’t overwhelm you with now.

Dienelone is great for any intended use, but like I said save it for a second or third cycle if testosterone is all you have used so your cycles go further with less later. You definitely want to take P5P a couple times a day while on it since most guys prolactin tends to rise using 19-Nors.

I feel all of the Apex products are generally dosed optimally around 2ml/day, give or take. Some guys will need less of things and some big boys might want a third ml, but 2/day is a safe bet for many trained men IMO.
 
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If you have never used an androgen besides your TRT, Dienelone is too advanced for a first run. You could use it but you really don’t need it with the other options available. I would use Kronos (11kt), perhaps with some Stanogen (epiandro), if trying to cut while maintaining lean mass and strength, and I would use Primagen (1andro with a touch of epiandro) if the cycle is focused on trying to gain lean mass.

6-oxo is definitely an estrogen control option. All of the androgens presented thru Apex won’t require any more AI inherently, so whatever amount of 6-oxo you need for your testosterone dose is all you would need regardless of whatever of these other androgens you would use (since they don’t aromatize). Maybe a hair more on dienelone for reasons I won’t overwhelm you with now.

Dienelone is great for any intended use, but like I said save it for a second or third cycle if testosterone is all you have used so your cycles go further with less later. You definitely want to take P5P a couple times a day while on it since most guys prolactin tends to rise using 19-Nors.

I feel all of the Apex products are generally dosed optimally around 2ml/day, give or take. Some guys will need less of things and some big boys might want a third ml, but 2/day is a safe bet for many trained men IMO.
So Diene has me intrigued but I don’t want to push things due to sides of aggression/libido.
These can be an issue in a committed relationship. I’ve ran a good amount of compounds and cycles, but that is what has given me understanding and caution to know my limits to allow me to still function in my career and relationships.
 
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So Diene has me intrigued but I don’t want to push things due to sides of aggression/libido.
These can be an issue in a committed relationship. I’ve ran a good amount of compounds and cycles, but that is what has given me understanding and caution to know my limits to allow me to still function in my career and relationships.
Dammit now I wanna try. Tren sides have deterred me in the past
Sorry I misunderstood. If you have ran plenty of other stuff then dienelone shouldn’t be feared. I have used Trenavar/trendione before and that honestly gave me rage like clockwork, but dienelone doesn’t have any of that anger. It’s much less androgenic than tren (well, everything is basically) so you don’t get the rage, the acne, the wired feeling anything like tren. Physique-wise though, it does seem to behave similarly. I mean it really is great for recomposition, cutting or a lean bulk. I would also say it doesn’t give me carb sweats like Trendione did, nor have I had night sweats more than a couple times (when I used a comforter on my side of the sheet, which I never do on cycle in the winter, so that was my fault).

Basically it’s pretty comfy. You need to keep an eye on BP, and pre-emptively take some P5P like I said, but that’s about it. You could also add Stanogen to help keep libido high and help prevent gyno concerns as well. If your prolactin runs high naturally, you may need a dopamine agonist like prami, but the beauty of a transdermal is you can just drop it if something happens you don’t like.
 
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Sorry I misunderstood. If you have ran plenty of other stuff then dienelone shouldn’t be feared. I have used Trenavar/trendione before and that honestly gave me rage like clockwork, but dienelone doesn’t have any of that anger. It’s much less androgenic than tren (well, everything is basically) so you don’t get the rage, the acne, the wired feeling anything like tren. Physique-wise though, it does seem to behave similarly. I mean it really is great for recomposition, cutting or a lean bulk. I would also say it doesn’t give me carb sweats like Trendione did, nor have I had night sweats more than a couple times (when I used a comforter on my side of the sheet, which I never do on cycle in the winter, so that was my fault).

Basically it’s pretty comfy. You need to keep an eye on BP, and pre-emptively take some P5P like I said, but that’s about it. You could also add Stanogen to help keep libido high and help prevent gyno concerns as well. If your prolactin runs high naturally, you may need a dopamine agonist like prami, but the beauty of a transdermal is you can just drop it if something happens you don’t like.
Thank you a ton for all this valuable information
 
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Epichaos, Kronos and Stanogen back in stock... more coming soon! !
 
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i still think you should take something that will help you grow now... how much leaner could u possibly get. and further why? chicks dig guys who are a little "thicker" than the competition look.
 

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