ap with no carbs

thebigt

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i have read a few posts from guys saying if they take ap without carbs they get real sleepy. is this true? if it is that will be great. i work 3rd shift and sleep is hard to come by. btw my ap is due to arrive today.
 
thebigt said:
i have read a few posts from guys saying if they take ap without carbs they get real sleepy. is this true? if it is that will be great. i work 3rd shift and sleep is hard to come by. btw my ap is due to arrive today.
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I don't think you want to use ap as a sleep aid.

The whole point of taking ap is to cram more nutrients into your muscles then you would normally be able to while completly avoiding fat storage. Therefore you should take it with food. I think the guys taking it without carbs were experimenting to see just how potent the AP actually is. Using it to sleep is a waste of AP and probably potentially dangerous.

If you need something for sleep, get REM or powerfull if you can find it. Or give a melatonin/gaba stack a shot.
 
good info, thanks. i think they were taking it with protein, not on an empty, just no carbs. btw if i were to try this it would only be one dose. thanks again.
 
ok ziri, you're the final word. lots of carbs it is!!!!!
 
thebigt, I work a lot of hours. You should give PGHt a try, it really works well. I work security, and several co-workers are now on it. It improves the quality of sleep.
 
poison: im open for suggestions, heard of pght just not sure of what it is, or how to use it. i work in a box factory, sometimes i will be real tired all night and then not be able to fall asleep in the morning. it seems to be a problem with co-workers too. usually get between 4-6 hours if im lucky.
 
It's a transdermal GABA/GABOB/Glutamine lotion. Apply one squirt 5 nights a week, or before sleep, and you'll sleep like a dead man. I have no sleep issues, other than that I don't get enough. I sleep like a baby. But this stuff puts me down hard and deeper. It won't make you go to sleep, but once you do....hardcore REM. I'd say it maximizes your valuable sleep time.

It is supposed to elevate GH, too, which I guarantee you is low if you're working and sleeping like that. So if you can get that up to semi-normal levels, you'd be a lot healthier and happier, and likely see better gains and less fat storage. (lack of sleep causes fat gain and catabolism).

Here's a link:

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One bottle lasts well over a month at one squirt 5 times a week. I felt it from the first dose in a very strong way. it's easy to apply, not greasy, smells like something your GF would use, cucumber-ish.
 
thats a righteous endorsement, thanks. i just read the write-up, at 50 bucks for a months supply i am more than willing to give it a shot. sleep is a precious thing for us 3rd shift people.
 
I feel your pain: I did 2.5 years of 7pm-7am, 6 days a week, then another year of flip-flopping between day and night shift. I now work only 7am-7pm, 5-6 days a week, but I have a wife, a 5yo, and a 9mo, and a coffee roasting business on the side, which I tend to after I get home from my 12 hour shifts. Plus, I work out 3 nights a week.

I'd consider PGHt invaluable. I'm not taking it now only because I ran out, and I only had money for AP, which I was dying to try. I'll be back on indefinitely, soon.
 
poison, ive read a lot of your post's, thats why im going to try it. any time someone who i respect gives an endorsement like that i pay attention. thanks, looking forward to trying this with my next order.
 
I'm glad I could help, it's my pleasure. I think it'll make a big difference in your life, as far as sleep is concerned. Stay well!
 
My problem is deep REM sleep. I wake up few times a night. I fall back to sleep quickly but awake again later. I was considering REM-R3G but would PGHt be a better option? I wake up in the morning still tired. Like my sleep was not a restful one.
 
Get some of the bulk USPLabs PowerFULL that nutraplanet has and take ~3g 30 minutes before sleeping, try to keep your last meal a protein only one also so that you get the most out of PowerFULL.

I have a decent sized stash and enjoy 4-6 caps before bed, infact just last night I had an interesting vivid dream.
 
is it ok to take super cissus, ap, and powerfull all at the same time? i already have sc and ap. been taking them both about 15 minutes before meals. also i like powerfull and am going to get the bulk, but i am going to try the pght. poison has sold me on it. lay out dosing scheme for me ziri, if you dont mind. thanks again.
 
It's okay to take them at the same time although- generally speaking I suggest Cissus-RX and PowerFULL to be taken pre- breakfast, lunch and supper, for Anabolic-Pump I suggest a dosing scheme closer to pre- breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Dosing wise it kind of depends on how quickly you want to get through your supply, if you want to use it specifically to help you with sleep then take 4-6 caps (2.64g-3.96g Bulk) 30 minutes before bed or if you eat carbs before you goto sleep then dose 15 minutes before that meal.
 
glsa17 said:
My problem is deep REM sleep. I wake up few times a night. I fall back to sleep quickly but awake again later. I was considering REM-R3G but would PGHt be a better option? I wake up in the morning still tired. Like my sleep was not a restful one.
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I've put a co-worker and two others on PGHt, and they have the same results I did. Deep sleep.

A co-worker tried REM, and liked it, but I'm not sure you can still buy it.
 
ive already made my pght order. right now im deciding on bulk powerfull and a capping kit or going outside the board and getting it already capped. btw thank you ziri. this is my 2nd day on ap sc and i like it ,like it ,:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: yes i do.
 
poison said:
I've put a co-worker and two others on PGHt, and they have the same results I did. Deep sleep.

A co-worker tried REM, and liked it, but I'm not sure you can still buy it.
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I seen REM at BN but I don't care for them anymore. Since the new ownership took over the company has suffered. They do't seem to care anymore. I prefer NP now. Awesome customer service. :head:

Do you feel PGHt is better due to the added benefits? It's a bit more money but has many more added benefits.
 
Oh, they both are supposed to raise GH and aid sleep. I haven't tried REM, so I can't compare between the two. USPLabs puts out some good products, I'm sure REM is great. I regret not trying it when I had the chance.

PGHt has rocked my REM, though. :D
 
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