AP and Glycergrow

cdawg123

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Can these be stacked together? i'm currently on AP and green magnitude, AP is working like a charm, great stuff, just wondering about adding glycergrow into the mix? good or bad idear?
 
Yep, should be good to stack. The glycerol in glycergrow should add to the pumps on ap.
 
prld2gr8ns said:
Yep, should be good to stack. The glycerol in glycergrow should add to the pumps on ap.

it does, i always use gms with my creatine, and it adds insane pumps to what ap was giving me on its own.
 
freezito said:
from what ive read u can pretty much stack anything with it

Can't Stack
Gaspari Size on
Universal Storm
Universal Animal Pump
Glucophase XR

These will Supposedly cause problems w/ insulin sensitivity or blood sugar stacked w/ AP.
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
Can't Stack
Gaspari Size on
Universal Storm
Universal Animal Pump
Glucophase XR

These will Supposedly cause problems w/ insulin sensitivity or blood sugar stacked w/ AP.

The potential problem is adipose storage as AP blocks glucose uptake into fat cells where as insulin mimics potentiate storage. At this point we are unsure of the real world effects but recommend against it on paper. Make sense?
 
bpmartyr said:
The potential problem is adipose storage as AP blocks glucose uptake into fat cells where as insulin mimics potentiate storage. At this point we are unsure of the real world effects but recommend against it on paper. Make sense?


Well..I guess I don't understand how fat storage is a problem while taking supps like SizeON during/after workout? Your body shouldn't be in a state of fat storage at the point anyways w/ or without AP.

Free form L- leucine is very insulinogenic and so are BCAAs, so do you red flag these in conjuction w/ AP too?
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
Well..I guess I don't understand how fat storage is a problem while taking supps like SizeON during/after workout? Your body shouldn't be in a state of fat storage at the point anyways w/ or without AP.

Free form L- leucine is very insulinogenic and so are BCAAs, so do you red flag these in conjuction w/ AP too?


I hope not....
:-(:fart:
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
Well..I guess I don't understand how fat storage is a problem while taking supps like SizeON during/after workout? Your body shouldn't be in a state of fat storage at the point anyways w/ or without AP.

Free form L- leucine is very insulinogenic and so are BCAAs, so do you red flag these in conjuction w/ AP too?

Read what Jacob has to say regarding insulin mimics and then decide for yourself what you want to do. Carbs trigger a greater insulin responce than aminos. AP will help manage a finite amount of insulin. Add in mimics and it may or may not cause fat storage. FWIW

USPLabs said:
We advise not to use other insulin mimickers because they will cause fat cells to crave carbs. Anabolic Pump blocks glucose update in fat cells.

1. Since AP inhibits glucose uptake in fat cells, will it block glucose uptake in fat cells if other insulin mimickers are used?

We do not know that so I can not anwer the question.

2. I like to use supplements that contain other insulin mimickers. Will AP inhibit other insulin Mimickers?

No. Anabolic Pump will contribute to gains. Anabolic Pump is a positive addition to any supplement stack. If you like to use other Insulin Mimickers by ALL MEANS Continue.

any other questions??
 
(((A^T^R))) said:
Well..I guess I don't understand how fat storage is a problem while taking supps like SizeON during/after workout? Your body shouldn't be in a state of fat storage at the point anyways w/ or without AP.

Free form L- leucine is very insulinogenic and so are BCAAs, so do you red flag these in conjuction w/ AP too?

You are correct on the last point, but they are not going to induce a marked Insulin response from the Pancreas.

The fat loss aspect from Anabolic Pump is modulating a genetic code within adipocytes which causes them to bind to lipids in the bloodstream--this is Insulin responsive. By introducing products into your system which may cause a greater Insulin response, or conversely mimmick Insulin's nutrient shuttling capacity (which is not selective between Adipose and Striated Muscle, it is universal) you are possibly compromising AP's ability to deny adipocytes glucose. To what extent? I do not know, Jacob does not know, our Research Team (at this point) does not know. It is more of a precautionary measure, as opposed to a steadfast rule. We are giving this advice based on our physiological knowledge of AP's mechanism of action, and the mechanism of action of these products. The best thing for you to do is continue to take both, and see if it has any negative effects.
 
What specific component of SizeOn is the issue? Is it the fact that it breaks further down to glucose and creatine?
 
jcam222 said:
What specific component of SizeOn is the issue? Is it the fact that it breaks further down to glucose and creatine?

4-Hydroxy-Isoleucine and Alpha Lipoic Acid as they are insulin mimicks. You can use them with AP but it is theoretically possible for adipose storage to increase and or AP's ability to block glucose uptake in fat cells to be negated or diminished.

Corosolic Acid also raises a red flag to me. "If colosolic acid were to lower blood glucose, it could have additive effects with drugs used in the management of diabetes, and therefore blood glucose must be closely monitored." AP falls into this category due to it's own potential effects at lowering blood sugar so if you are going to stack them additional care should be taken to ingest enough carbs. If you are using complex carbs you may even consider adding some sugars to get glucose levels up faster. IMO
 
Is there a way I could avoid the SizeOn and AP conflict? Like if I ingest SizeOn immediately after workout and then take my AP sometime after (15-30 min.) Or is it impossible? I would really like to keep using SizeOn.


Got some clarification on this. SizeOn is going on the shelf. Looking into something different. (creatine-wise)

Leaning towards Green Magnitude
 
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bpmartyr said:
4-Hydroxy-Isoleucine and Alpha Lipoic Acid as they are insulin mimicks. You can use them with AP but it is theoretically possible for adipose storage to increase and or AP's ability to block glucose uptake in fat cells to be negated or diminished.

Corosolic Acid also raises a red flag to me. "If colosolic acid were to lower blood glucose, it could have additive effects with drugs used in the management of diabetes, and therefore blood glucose must be closely monitored." AP falls into this category due to it's own potential effects at lowering blood sugar so if you are going to stack them additional care should be taken to ingest enough carbs. If you are using complex carbs you may even consider adding some sugars to get glucose levels up faster. IMO

Wow. Strong risk to take. I love SizeOn myself but it will remain on the shelf until I access Anabolic Pump's effectivness on it's own. With the possibility of AP's ability to block fat negated...I hold off on my SizeOn on the slightest possibility that I'm wasting my new bottles of Holy Grail version 1.0
 
cdawg123 said:
Can these be stacked together? i'm currently on AP and green magnitude, AP is working like a charm, great stuff, just wondering about adding glycergrow into the mix? good or bad idear?

That would be fine but definitely increase water intake quite a bit.
 
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