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Anyone else see the EvoMuse Facebook outbursts earlier today?

jt75 said:
Don't know what that means but ok

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You have an agenda calling out Matt plain and simple....just like the OP. You should look into the affiliation between the OP & Komodo. If he calls out Matt, people can call out Komodo
 
No agenda on my part buddy,I subscribed to the virile mane thread and had posted questions which were unanswered by dsade about the effectiveness of the product so it's perfectly reasonable to ask for coa's, plain and simple!!!

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Nac said:
If youre wanting more sympathisers to your cause, you would have been better served making this solely about the CoA request from the outset, rather than bringing all the other fluff into it.

I cant see anyone disagreeing with a CoA request being reasonable; people will obviously rally against the other crap you made a big deal of, though.
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I appreciate your open mindedness and support; asking for COA's that were offered really seem to be the only quantifiable way to show that unsubstantiated claims are being made left and right, and at the end of the day, harming the supportive consumers (all of you guys/gals)

jt75 said:
Ok let's all see the the COA and that settles everything dsade.
All the arguing stops and all the bitchin stops, over to you dsade
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Yep, show us the COA's you said "of course" to having, and I will retract everything negative I've said.

shockrock3 said:
Komodo should be showing COA's...hmmmmm
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I don't disagree that any company should show COA's if asked. Komodo uses a lot of trademarked ingredients though, so the quality is somewhat assured when those ingredients are licensed.

shockrock3 said:
You have an agenda calling out Matt plain and simple....just like the OP. You should look into the affiliation between the OP & Komodo. If he calls out Matt, people can call out Komodo
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No agenda...and yes, all companies should be "called out" if it means substantiating claims about quality, and what consumers are actually receiving.

jt75 said:
No agenda on my part buddy,I subscribed to the virile mane thread and had posted questions which were unanswered by dsade about the effectiveness of the product so it's perfectly reasonable to ask for coa's, plain and simple!!!

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I absolutely agree - they were also offered in the Facebook group, I asked if third party COA's were done for all ingredients and Dsade responded, "of course," then conveniently, never answered a single additional request to see them. Again - I'm not asking for any additional money spent by the business owner, no additional action taken - he said they were "of course" done, so if you guys trust him, they should have been done, right? I'm just asking to see them - as reasonable a request as it comes.
 
Ajerone said:
I dont post often because well, most supplements are absolute garbage, and don't work, and are worthless really. These forums consist of: 1) fanboys of ridiculous companies that release nothing (look at the EvoMuse company page: the first page is littered with "product write-ups," how many of those can you purchase RIGHT now? Maybe one or two? LOL)
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Hmm let me see, Evomuse products received yesterday from NV: 1 DCP; 1 Epitome; 2 Testruction; 1 Gut health.
Evomuse products shipped today from alternate supplier (got better deals ha!) 3 Strafe Cantaloupe; 2 Abliderate Ammo; 2 Epitome; 1 Gut Health; 1 Testruction (ordered 2); 1 Alphaburn.

6 products and there were more in stock but my schedule does not allow for Transdermals yet, I might try the soap although been using Dr. Bronner's exclusively since '02.

Ajerone said:
- Please feel free to post my inquiries on the company page that caused this response, Dsade/Matt
-He ignores ALL requests for third party COA's that HE OFFERED AND CLAIMED HE HAD (i bet this will get ignored again right here)
-These products will most likely never be released, and if they are, in batches of like 20 from a basement somewhere
-If the man cant be trusted with a keyboard and emotions, you all want to trust him with anonymous capsules he makes himself and sells you? have fun.
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You sound like you have issues, please get some help. Seeing your attitude, if I were dsade, I would have ignored you too. You sound like a PITA and meeting one of your demands will only give rise to more, why waste a couple of hours of precious time putting a packet together just for you? To get your approval? I'd rather be productive.

I have no horse in your race, just one in my own, I agree with you that many supplements are shall we say, optimistic and hype driven just to make a killing. There are a few that are research based by brilliant minds AND enthusiasts (that's why they aren't mainstream). PA of former Ergopharm glory, Caleb and Team of Avant Labs, Jacob of the old USP labs, Biotivia's James Betz (may he rest in peace). I hope to be able to add more, I won't name them but they know who they are, ok... dsade is just one lol. I hope I respond to his stuff. I've tried A LOT of supps like many of us, and the companies I named are a few that had releases in the past that helped me in my goals. Hoping to add evomuse to my list.

Lastly, dsade, thank you for your service, please stay encouraged, enthusiastic and keep on keepin on, take some clear edge lol.
 
Ajerone said:
I appreciate your open mindedness and support; asking for COA's that were offered really seem to be the only quantifiable way to show that unsubstantiated claims are being made left and right, and at the end of the day, harming the supportive consumers (all of you guys/gals)


Yep, show us the COA's you said "of course" to having, and I will retract everything negative I've said.


I don't disagree that any company should show COA's if asked. Komodo uses a lot of trademarked ingredients though, so the quality is somewhat assured when those ingredients are licensed.


No agenda...and yes, all companies should be "called out" if it means substantiating claims about quality, and what consumers are actually receiving.


I absolutely agree - they were also offered in the Facebook group, I asked if third party COA's were done for all ingredients and Dsade responded, "of course," then conveniently, never answered a single additional request to see them. Again - I'm not asking for any additional money spent by the business owner, no additional action taken - he said they were "of course" done, so if you guys trust him, they should have been done, right? I'm just asking to see them - as reasonable a request as it comes.
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Can we see the COA's for the products of whatever company you work for now. Do you have proof that any of the products that you represent are any better than Matt's?
 
Honestly what's done is done. He didn't kill anyone! Stop trying to hang a man who in a moment of frustration lashed out. He has apologized for it and that should be that. It's typed words and not a death sentence. It doesn't show his character to be the devil as anyone is entitled to their freedom of speech. It doesn't matter what company he works for, his views and opinions at the end of the day are his. He made a mistake and apologized. That should be enough. Good day
 
Ajerone said:
So EvoMuse products make an individual not natty? Bummer, I love cheetos. Good thing I have my SLINTENSITY !


You seem educated. I don't disagree with your stance or your opinion. We agree more than we disagree - but if a company offered you a third party COA for ingredients, then ignored every time they were asked for, what say you then? I'm not making ridiculous demands here - I'm simply asking to see a scan of what was claimed to have already been done! I'm not even asking for something new to happen!


Yeah, keep dodging questions and making outlandish claims, with even more outlandish excuses. The world needs more people like that!


I think people like you are what is wrong with the world, blind, ignorant sheep.

Dudes - do you not know what COA stands for? They were CLAIMED to have been done by a THIRD PARTY! I'm NOT asking for any additional testing, costs, anything! Just that what was CLAIMED to have been being done, is SHOWN! This is NOT a ridiculous claim! Any consumer should WANT to see one, request they be done, but in this case, Matt/Dsade said they "of course" were ALREADY DONE! Just share them! That will get me to shut my mouth!
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You've insinuated he's not being honest about the delay reasons. You've made several remarks about the gullibility and lack of discernment from his customers. You've made sarcastic remarks about his products. You're clearly convinced his products don't contain what the label states they do. If this is not some sort of agenda and you really don't have a personal vendetta against Matt...then with all due respect, I suggest that some priorities be re-examined.

If you are not a customer of Matt's and you don't have an agenda, there is really no reason at all to be on this passive-aggressive crusade to villify him and his company. At this point, you have done your due diligence in doing what you feel is right and make his customers aware that you feel some wrong things are happening. I don't really see that anyone has changed their stance. His customers (which I am one of) are adults, and "caveat emptor" applies. If you feel his customers are sheep and blindly following him and getting duped, the customers, we are getting the world we deserve.

Alex, I seem to recall you were once a pretty decent rep. I don't know what has happened since, but there are better ways to be more productive and occupy time. I truly hope you can understand this and find a way to contribute something positive.

Best regards.
 
The1WhoKnocks said:
You've insinuated he's not being honest about the delay reasons. You've made several remarks about the gullibility and lack of discernment from his customers. You've made sarcastic remarks about his products. You're clearly convinced his products don't contain what the label states they do. If this is not some sort of agenda and you really don't have a personal vendetta against Matt...then with all due respect, I suggest that some priorities be re-examined.

If you are not a customer of Matt's and you don't have an agenda, there is really no reason at all to be on this passive-aggressive crusade to villify him and his company. At this point, you have done your due diligence in doing what you feel is right and make his customers aware that you feel some wrong things are happening. I don't really see that anyone has changed their stance. His customers (which I am one of) are adults, and "caveat emptor" applies. If you feel his customers are sheep and blindly following him and getting duped, the customers, we are getting the world we deserve.

Alex, I seem to recall you were once a pretty decent rep. I don't know what has happened since, but there are better ways to be more productive and occupy time. I truly hope you can understand this and find a way to contribute something positive.

Best regards.
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I would agree with this. There are always people that will have issue with a company or a owner, but to repeat your issue so many times in one thread seems like there is more to meets the eye. Once you've said your peace to keep going on about it really becomes redundant.
 
Providing COAS would be nice but I will say this Matt has his iron in alot of fires between evomuse and flawless skin he is constantly posting things while running two businesses he's always responded to me immediately on questions Ocean spray had talks with him that's one large company to just talk to some random guy who doesn't know what he's doing.
 
cheftepesh1 said:
I would agree with this. There are always people that will have issue with a company or a owner, but to repeat your issue so many times in one thread seems like there is more to meets the eye. Once you've said your peace to keep going on about it really becomes redundant.
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My peace, lol

patrick25 said:
Providing COAS would be nice but I will say this Matt has his iron in alot of fires between evomuse and flawless skin he is constantly posting things while running two businesses he's always responded to me immediately on questions Ocean spray had talks with him that's one large company to just talk to some random guy who doesn't know what he's doing.
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I agree he posts a lot, but strategically dodges so many questions, including my simple one. Oh, and he said he designed a product for Ocean Spray, he never said Ocean Spray actually got in touch with him about anything, LOL

The1WhoKnocks said:
You've insinuated he's not being honest about the delay reasons. You've made several remarks about the gullibility and lack of discernment from his customers. You've made sarcastic remarks about his products. You're clearly convinced his products don't contain what the label states they do. If this is not some sort of agenda and you really don't have a personal vendetta against Matt...then with all due respect, I suggest that some priorities be re-examined.

If you are not a customer of Matt's and you don't have an agenda, there is really no reason at all to be on this passive-aggressive crusade to villify him and his company. At this point, you have done your due diligence in doing what you feel is right and make his customers aware that you feel some wrong things are happening. I don't really see that anyone has changed their stance. His customers (which I am one of) are adults, and "caveat emptor" applies. If you feel his customers are sheep and blindly following him and getting duped, the customers, we are getting the world we deserve.

Alex, I seem to recall you were once a pretty decent rep. I don't know what has happened since, but there are better ways to be more productive and occupy time. I truly hope you can understand this and find a way to contribute something positive.

Best regards.
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Ignorance is bliss, I suppose...

DemntedCowboy said:
Can we see the COA's for the products of whatever company you work for now. Do you have proof that any of the products that you represent are any better than Matt's?
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I represent no one, and work for no one.

Whatever, y'all. I never even said the products don't contain what they claim to. You guys are so blindly nut hugging its not even worth my time to try and advocate for things that were offered to all you consumers. You all are getting trump tax-returned, fooled by the promise of nonsense. And yes, I never insinuated the delays were lies, I straight up called them out. They are outrageous, but I am glad you are all happy to just believe it. I'm done, goodbye. Enjoy yourselves.
 
Ajerone you clearly seem like a guy that hates on supplements and/or supplement companies
and believes they are useless.

If you don't like them, why do you post on supplement forums.. or follow supplement companies
on facebook...?
 
I don't understand why some people are so adamant about saving me money or worried for my well being. I'm a grown-ass man and i waste my money on what i want. Be it lottery tickets or ineffective supplements.
 
vujade said:
Ajerone you clearly seem like a guy that hates on supplements and/or supplement companies
and believes they are useless.

If you don't like them, why do you post on supplement forums.. or follow supplement companies
on facebook...?
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Because he is a little frustrated bitch who fulfill his pathetic life trolling to compensate the lack of balls. Just guessing.
 
Thank g-d I read Ajerone comments before I ordered. Thanks to him this arrived yesterday. Losers always attack someone who is beating them, instead of trying harder. When these products come to mind and muscle it's going to be epic.Invalid Link Removed
 
Jealous of that haul!

Poor fat doesn't stand a chance... ;)
 
hows everyone's clear edge going? i know Facebook said that the new partner would never let you guys down and it should be ready three weeks ago, but its not yet....

don't worry, the newer new partner switched all merchandise to a seventeenth production facility where the cue has a much expedited run time, should have more information by the end of last week!

oh and aren't those COA's great, really helps validate confidence in what you are all ingesting! I'm so glad those respectful requests weren't completely ignored because they don't actually exist
 
Some things change, and some people are still douche bags. Is that how the expression goes?
 
Ajerone said:
hows everyone's clear edge going? i know Facebook said that the new partner would never let you guys down and it should be ready three weeks ago, but its not yet....

don't worry, the newer new partner switched all merchandise to a seventeenth production facility where the cue has a much expedited run time, should have more information by the end of last week!

oh and aren't those COA's great, really helps validate confidence in what you are all ingesting! I'm so glad those respectful requests weren't completely ignored because they don't actually exist
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Great sense of humor bud but when it ships:

NO SOUP FOR YOU! lol
 
Ajerone said:
hows everyone's clear edge going? i know Facebook said that the new partner would never let you guys down and it should be ready three weeks ago, but its not yet....

don't worry, the newer new partner switched all merchandise to a seventeenth production facility where the cue has a much expedited run time, should have more information by the end of last week!

oh and aren't those COA's great, really helps validate confidence in what you are all ingesting! I'm so glad those respectful requests weren't completely ignored because they don't actually exist
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Do you get royalties for Rick Astley writing his hit song specifically about you?
 
He will be working with Mind and Muscle now, so things will change for the better. I find it's better to aid someone and help them improve then spend all your time knocking someone down. At least he's doing something, good or bad in your eyes, people are not complaining.
 
I'm glad you are still following his stuff on Facebook! You're a waste of time bud
 
Why is this still going on? If things would have been left at the CoA question, I would get that and it's a perfectly reasonable request. Otherwise, you are just wasting your time and looking desperate. You aren't going to change anyone's minds on here. Matt has a loyal following of satisfied customers. You may even have borderline valid points. You are barking up the wrong tree, here, on this forum unless you are simply trolling. People on here who have tried his stuff have, for the most part, been satisfied. In the words of one Paul McCartney, "Let it be".....
 
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