anyone else fond of laxo?

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thinking that the estrogen receptor mediated anabolic action of hi-tech’s laxogenin product is maybe far more effective in older folks? because i are older and My results are definitely real using this stuff. almost all the andros now present more sides than im willing to put up with vs positive results.
Just wanted fks to consider this since i can definitely believe it when the younger users say it’s ineffective for them.
 
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i generally respond very well to laxo, whether oral or transdermal, probably the only laxo product that didn't do anything for me was the olympus labs one (think called massacre). But i know a lot of folks don't see anything from it.
 

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Considering High Tech can't even write their label properly...to be useful cyclodextrin has to be bonded to the target molecule, in this case laxo. Yet they just put the cyclodextrin in ''Other ingredients'' which indicate they just throw the cyclodextrin in the mix and don't bond it with the laxo
 
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I definitely believe in the effects of laxogenin! They may not be as pronounced as many in this community would prefer...given less natural alternatives. Above all, delivery seems to mater the most on all laxogenin products. There have been a few novel approaches to improving bioavailability, but I do believe transdermal will remain the most effective route.

If you like laxogenin, I highly recommend giving our Iconogenin a shot!

 
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I definitely believe in the effects of laxogenin! They may not be as pronounced as many in this community would prefer...given less natural alternatives. Above all, delivery seems to mater the most on all laxogenin products. There have been a few novel approaches to improving bioavailability, but I do believe transdermal will remain the most effective route.

If you like laxogenin, I highly recommend giving our Iconogenin a shot!

Has the been logged by anyone?
 
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I used it for 8wks during pct and it’s definitely gtg. It will probably always be a part of pct from here on out. This comes from someone who got nothing from oral laxo.
 
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I want to like it-but an article I saw a bit ago in I think Ergo-Log demonstrated that the majority of so called laxo products were bunk, had almost no laxo and many were spiked- until somebody can somehow prove that what they are selling is the real deal I would avoid it at all costs- also, not sure where the branded "Laxosterone" fits into all of this, perhaps there is more safety and purity involved
 

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Would rather save my money
I am pretty sure if you are much under 40, saving your money is probably a good idea. My theory is that androgen receptor mediated anabolics become far less effective over time , and of course this is based on my experience and plenty of evidence in the bodybuilding world over these many years. also, I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I think I have read that long term use of androgens will result in increased estrogen receptors themselves, probably along with increased numbers of androgen receptors? whether this is numbers or not I don’t know maybe the literature suggests increased/decreased sensitivity among receptors from prolonged steroid use. in any case, if an estrogen receptor mediated anabolic had some potential, it makes sense it would be best realized in the former androgen user especially, and one that is no longer able to benefit as much by virtue of age from those androgen-based substances.
 

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I'm 40, 3 bottles of microecapsulated smilax laxo at 300mg daily and I didn't get much if anything at all. Maybe works for others
 

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Considering High Tech can't even write their label properly...to be useful cyclodextrin has to be bonded to the target molecule, in this case laxo. Yet they just put the cyclodextrin in ''Other ingredients'' which indicate they just throw the cyclodextrin in the mix and don't bond it with the laxo
Is it a matter of rhe eriting, or are we sure they’re not bonding it?
Considering High Tech can't even write their label properly...to be useful cyclodextrin has to be bonded to the target molecule, in this case laxo. Yet they just put the cyclodextrin in ''Other ingredients'' which indicate they just throw the cyclodextrin in the mix and don't bond it with the laxo
maybe it’s just an issue of the writing?, because I think in their product information elsewhere you might find that they claim to bond the product. I don’t know, but I feel like it’s actually bonded to the cyclodextrins, since it seems to be pretty effective given the dosage.
 

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I'm 40, 3 bottles of microecapsulated smilax laxo at 300mg daily and I didn't get much if anything at all. Maybe works for others
Yeah I have tried others not much response. which is the only reason im being brand-specific concerning the substance. I have no other reason aside from getting opinions from folks maybe 40 and older that have exp with it. I hope u give the HiTech version a shot though, and report back if you do,
 

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reposting my details of experiences with it here in case anyone can add any insight:
for help retaining muscle.......cycle length/ dose/ caps or sub ling/ .....thanks.....
just seems to be as effective as a mild anabolic in that I have increased tone, strength, reduce recovery time. I’ve definitely noticed every time I use it it changes what I can only describe as the ‘emphasis of innervation’ in my muscles. For example if I flex my bicep when I’m using it, there’s a distinctly different way or maybe I should say an increased level of contractile tension/sensation and even appearance of my biceps that is noticed like within a day. I did not really pay much attention to this initially, because it just seemed impossible. But since I have gone on and off the product Several times now, I am certain that’s what’s causing it because every time I go back on it it starts happening again. it’s favoring nutrient partitioning to muscles versus fat, since I seem to be able to fudge the diet a little bit when I’m using it i I mean I can enjoy more carbs in my diet without the usual fat gain. certainly not to the level that I could when I used androgens in my younger days but to some degree. I do not experience bloating that I seem to get from almost every androgen-based product out there now, which makes the Cardiio side of my work out a lot easier for that fact alone. i am currently using it along with their arimistane product which is based on my hunch that reduced estrogen in my system affords this estrogen receptor mediated anabolic increased opportunity to act on those receptors, but that’s just a hunch I have no research or anything to back something like that up.
 

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some background on me:
I was known as a desperate experimenter with legal androgens back in the 90’s that pushed the idea of using things transdermally and orally with alcohol-based carriers such as Everclear. I didn’t know about or have access to dmso and no safe sources for illegal anabolics, but I did eventually find dmso and finaplex. I used Fina for my first steroid experience and it was of course mind blowingly successful. Early 2000’s I went back “on” with the otc’s such as M1T, which of course was effective but made me feel like dying, not an uncommon exp we now know. At some point after 40, it seemed like any androgen-based product legal or otherwise manifested sides more than benefits, and so I had to strictly limit their use. So this hitech laxo product really has me interested in whether or not other people have had success similar to mine, and I’m also interested in determining if it’s something I can continue to experience benefits from over the long term. We will see i guess.
 

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I definitely believe in the effects of laxogenin! They may not be as pronounced as many in this community would prefer...given less natural alternatives. Above all, delivery seems to mater the most on all laxogenin products. There have been a few novel approaches to improving bioavailability, but I do believe transdermal will remain the most effective route.

If you like laxogenin, I highly recommend giving our Iconogenin a shot!

I just ordered it off Amazon. Anxious to give it a try.
 
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I took almost a full bottle of anafuse (it's laxo, epica, vit d). Stopped taking it because I didn't really like how I felt how it felt compared to epichaos or follidrone.
 
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im anxious to try follidrone and other td’s but pill are so convenient
I started using roller balls for td and its super easy to apply now. Follidrone is really good. Ive done 3 bottles of it and i just got another one yesterday. Alternatively a lot of people like epi-plex but i havent tried it.
 

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