Anybody experience high progesterone while on Tren?

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What were symptoms? May have it creeping up
 
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No I meant progesterone.
I’m on caber and I’m pretty sure it’s not prolactin.
sex drive hasn’t suffered. I’m starting to hold water, diet is still good, Andy left nipple is a little sore and puffy.

also on Arimidex even though test is low and barely above trt.

I know Tren can trigger progesterone sides, just looking for some real world experience.
 
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Progesterone acts a lot like estrogen in the body. So, you could take just a regular SERM along with it, like Nolvadex or Clomid. Those both work to counteract the effects of the progesterone that's causing the estrogen to rise.

Here are the estrogenic side effects as described in William Llewellyn's Anabolics Steroids series of books.

Side Effects (Estrogenic):
Trenbolone is not aromatized by the body, and is not measurably estrogenic. It is of note, however, that this steroid displays significant binding affinity for the progesterone receptor (slightly stronger than progesterone itself).548 549 The side effects associated with progesterone are similar to those of estrogen, including negative feedback inhibition of testosterone production and enhanced rate of fat storage. Progestins also augment the stimulatory effect of estrogens on mammary tissue growth. There appears to be a strong synergy between these two hormones here, such that gynecomastia might even occur with the help of progestins, without excessive estrogen levels. The use of an anti-estrogen, which inhibits the estrogenic component of this disorder, is often sufficient to mitigate gynecomastia caused by progestational anabolic/androgenic steroids. Note that progestational side effects are more common when trenbolone is being taken with other aromatizable steroids.
 

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Progesterone acts a lot like estrogen in the body. So, you could take just a regular SERM along with it, like Nolvadex or Clomid. Those both work to counteract the effects of the progesterone that's causing the estrogen to rise.

Here are the estrogenic side effects as described in William Llewellyn's Anabolics Steroids series of books.
I actually heard people saying to avoid nolva while using 19 nors. Dont know, didnt try it myself.


I think that using a dht like masteron would help a bit, as it antagonizes estrogen at the receptor, but doesnt carry any estrogrnic properties as it is not a quasi estrogen like serms are.

And of course, keeping the test dose low while running nandrolone or tren, that seems to be the way to go for people who have issues and many say they get less sides.
 
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I actually heard people saying to avoid nolva while using 19 nors. Dont know, didnt try it myself.
I've never heard that, Nolva & Clomd would work absolutely fine with nandrolone.

I actually heard people saying to avoid nolva while using 19 nors. Dont know, didnt try it myself.


I think that using a dht like masteron would help a bit, as it antagonizes estrogen at the receptor, but doesnt carry any estrogrnic properties as it is not a quasi estrogen like serms are.

And of course, keeping the test dose low while running nandrolone or tren, that seems to be the way to go for people who have issues and many say they get less sides.
Probably Proviron would be a better solution.

 
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I've never heard that, Nolva & Clomd would work absolutely fine with nandrolone.


Probably Proviron would be a better solution.

What does us suggested? 10mg/day for Nolva?
 
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What does us suggested? 10mg/day for Nolva?
Yeah, 10 would be fine. If you felt you were getting symptoms of puffy nipples or any other estrogenic sides, you could bump it up to 20mg/day or even 40mg/day.

I have a couple good articles on Nolva/Clomid that I'll share here so you can become enlightened on the magic that are SERMS.



The site seems to be down right now, but you can read them on the Wayback machine or Google cache if you want to read them right now.

 
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I upped my proviron dose. Also took a little extra caber. I’m going to keep an eye on symptoms, if it gets worse I’ll order some Nolvadex and give that a try. I also switched to a different vial of Tren. Thanks for all the info, I’ll update in a week or so.
 

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I upped my proviron dose. Also took a little extra caber. I’m going to keep an eye on symptoms, if it gets worse I’ll order some Nolvadex and give that a try. I also switched to a different vial of Tren. Thanks for all the info, I’ll update in a week or so.
When in doubt, up the dose 😆
 

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