Androstenediol

this has a lot to do with goals and how they're going to be administered. 1ad and 4ad were really popular to run transdermal back in the day - you running oral or td?
 
To clarify … 1 andro or 1-diol? As far as I know 1 -diol isn’t even sold in Europe. A few 1T products sold over there. Everything sold in the USA since 2005 is 1 andro, 4 andro not the diol version.

The studied amount was 300 mg daily of 1 androsterone. The OG 1-diol (ergopharm 1-ad) I think the reccomend dose was 300 mg as well. People ran it higher and it gave injectable like gains at higher doses because it’s a 1 step pro to 1-Test/DHB which is probably the strongest injectable steroid around that isn’t named tren.
 
Rockslide said:
To clarify … 1 andro or 1-diol? As far as I know 1 -diol isn’t even sold in Europe. A few 1T products sold over there. Everything sold in the USA since 2005 is 1 andro, 4 andro not the diol version.

The studied amount was 300 mg daily of 1 androsterone. The OG 1-diol (ergopharm 1-ad) I think the reccomend dose was 300 mg as well. People ran it higher and it gave injectable like gains at higher doses because it’s a 1 step pro to 1-Test/DHB which is probably the strongest injectable steroid around that isn’t named tren.
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I ordered from a research chem site. I ordered 1 Androstenediol and 4 Androstenediol. I initially thought they were DHEA’s until I read a little closer and didn’t know if the dosing was different from the dhea’s. I’m still not clear how to dose as in how often per day.
 
I doubt it’s real diol

But if it was dosing/frequency would be the same and the andro would just be stronger mg for mg
 
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Rockslide said:
I doubt it’s real diol

But if it was dosing/frequency would be the same and the andro would just be stronger mg for mg
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Rockslide said:
I doubt it’s real diol

But if it was dosing/frequency would be the same and the andro would just be stronger mg for mg
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I used to order trestolone, methasterone, tadalafil, mk677, and others years back from this company and it was always legit so I don’t have reason to doubt them. I took 5 years off to reboot my endocrine system after years of blasting and cruising and just wanted to have a very mild cycle that’s easy to recover from. I was actually trying to get dhea’s. I assumed when they said 1 Andro that it was 1dhea. But when I read closer it definitely said 1 androstenediol.
 
i doubt most raw sources carry legit raw 1-diol and 4-diol anymore, no market anymore for that. if it is legit is it probably a large drum someone has been sitting on that was synthed 15-20years ago
 
if it is real 1 diol you will know within 4 days of starting it, very potent. if you put the raw powder under your tongue it will produce a burning sensation, 1-diol and 1-dione have unique properties that seem to produce irritation to mucous membranes ,even in your urethra on the way out when you urinate. supposedly 1 dione was worse and during PA's initial beta testing circa year 1999-2000ish. i believe he did not want to put to market the 1-dione version because of this and some gastrointestinal burning sensation/dyspepsia/cramping symptoms from what i can remember
 
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Rockslide said:
To clarify … 1 andro or 1-diol? As far as I know 1 -diol isn’t even sold in Europe. A few 1T products sold over there. Everything sold in the USA since 2005 is 1 andro, 4 andro not the diol version.

The studied amount was 300 mg daily of 1 androsterone. The OG 1-diol (ergopharm 1-ad) I think the reccomend dose was 300 mg as well. People ran it higher and it gave injectable like gains at higher doses because it’s a 1 step pro to 1-Test/DHB which is probably the strongest injectable steroid around that isn’t named tren.
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Here is what I don't understand. Why the **** don't UGLs sell 1-androstenediol anymore? It's fucking infuriating that the only staple that came out of the PH era is superdrol which is liver toxic. 1-AD is much better yet people are so stupid they seem to have forgotten about it - either that or they're too stupid to figure out how PA synthesized it.
 
timmylong2725 said:
Here is what I don't understand. Why the **** don't UGLs sell 1-androstenediol anymore? It's fucking infuriating that the only staple that came out of the PH era is superdrol which is liver toxic. 1-AD is much better yet people are so stupid they seem to have forgotten about it - either that or they're too stupid to figure out how PA synthesized it.
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M1T is still available black market but has become even harder to find over the past few years, i would say 80% of the leads are old outdated stock, or pics from 10 years ago. probably easier to find legit international(middle east/india) compared to usa domestic nowadays. .the remaining 20% is a 50/50 shot of it being fake or just methyltest or d-bol
 
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You can get oral DHB aka 1-Testosterone from Chinese vendors … I loaded up … non methyl oral that works … all day for me
 
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i have never seen 1-test cyp in a tablet before. 1-test on its own is fairly stable orally and you dont need a huge dose to be effective oral. would be interesting to see what is really in those tablets
 
timmylong2725 said:
Here is what I don't understand. Why the **** don't UGLs sell 1-androstenediol anymore? It's fucking infuriating that the only staple that came out of the PH era is superdrol which is liver toxic. 1-AD is much better yet people are so stupid they seem to have forgotten about it - either that or they're too stupid to figure out how PA synthesized it.
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Because they sell actual DHB, usually very affordably, and a single 10ml vial brewed at 100mg/ml will deliver more gains than all this hassle combined. Someone could take a single 1cc 28g EZ Touch slinpin shot per week in a delt and be good to go. Next to no sides, you hardly notice it besides your muscle & strength starts going wild (and often appetite from the lowered blood sugar / increased insulin sensitivity).

Probably my favorite compound; it just works and is so clean.
 
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THANKS very intersting
 
Oswizle said:
You can get oral DHB aka 1-Testosterone from Chinese vendors … I loaded up … non methyl oral that works … all day for me
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Did you happen to check your liver enzymes while you were running this? If what you took works thats good but at the same time it might just be turinabol or M1T or something. I would like to know more about your experience, though, if you would be willing to share more
 
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