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Andro conversion rate

Brain5ick

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So quick question, what would the conversion rate of 4 andro to test be at 150mg? I’m running that and 1 ad at the same dose from hi tech as recommended by a few friends of mine but I feel like dog shyt on day two! I feel like at the rate it’s converting at I’m being left with less test than what I started with and am still getting the lethargy from the 1 ad... I felt like I should run it at a higher dose but was persuaded otherwise. I feel like I do in PCT!
 
Your running both 1-andro and 4-andro at 150mg a day?

Honestly at that dose (even at a higher dose) what you are feeling is nothing to do with the andros- that’s not gonna kick in at all on day 2 bro.

For the record 330 a day is the studied dose
 
Whisky said:
Your running both 1-andro and 4-andro at 150mg a day?

Honestly at that dose (even at a higher dose) what you are feeling is nothing to do with the andros- that’s not gonna kick in at all on day 2 bro.

For the record 330 a day is the studied dose
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Let’s say hypothetically though, if your body produces 475ng/dL Test, would you just be lowering it if you took 4 andro at that dose? I wasn’t going to run this but my powerlifting buddies said they got great results from it at this dose but to have an effective base, wouldn’t it need to be higher?
 
Honestly I feel like running Andros at this level is not going to yield very good results. Maybe if I throw in dermacrine? My original plan was to run these two with ligandrol but I wanted a base so I wouldn’t get the sides.
 
Brain5ick said:
Let’s say hypothetically though, if your body produces 475ng/dL Test, would you just be lowering it if you took 4 andro at that dose? I wasn’t going to run this but my powerlifting buddies said they got great results from it at this dose but to have an effective base, wouldn’t it need to be higher?
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Main problem right now is that on day 2 I don’t believe either compound will be having any significant affect on you anyway bro, thus don’t make a decision based on how you are feeling now as that’s not down to the compounds....

But having run the andros at higher doses I was getting a bit of lethargy off 1-andro with 4 at 340 plus and epiandro in there.....
 
Brain5ick said:
Honestly I feel like running Andros at this level is not going to yield very good results. Maybe if I throw in dermacrine? My original plan was to run these two with ligandrol but I wanted a base so I wouldn’t get the sides.
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Hiddengains ran torem @ 30mg/day alongside ligandrol (12 week cycle) and his intra cycle bloodwork showed he still had total T in the high 400's. So not only do you have enough test to function normaly, but you at making it naturally, which means no PCT lag time. I wish more people would try this, it works.
 
RickyBlobby said:
Hiddengains ran torem @ 30mg/day alongside ligandrol (12 week cycle) and his intra cycle bloodwork showed he still had total T in the high 400's. So not only do you have enough test to function normaly, but you at making it naturally, which means no PCT lag time. I wish more people would try this, it works.
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I’ll give it a shot when I get my LGD. I’d run my Osta on top of it but apparently what I got wasn’t Osta. I got suuuuper sick on it and my sweat turned YELLOW.... dark yellow... felt like I had a damn fever all the time so I’m not gonna be ordering from that source anymore. Actually found a more local source with tons of good reviews. Any idea what that supposed Osta could’ve been?
 
Jaundice in a bottle? lol
 
RickyBlobby said:
Jaundice in a bottle? lol
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Lmao dear god it felt like it. I lost a bunch of weight almost overnight on it, stomach hurt like a mf, felt very weak. I ate ALL THE TIME though. I literally couldn’t stop and I still lost weight. Had to stop it.
 
Brain5ick said:
I’ll give it a shot when I get my LGD. I’d run my Osta on top of it but apparently what I got wasn’t Osta. I got suuuuper sick on it and my sweat turned YELLOW.... dark yellow... felt like I had a damn fever all the time so I’m not gonna be ordering from that source anymore. Actually found a more local source with tons of good reviews. Any idea what that supposed Osta could’ve been?
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Possibly DNP?
 
Well, at 150mg unless it's enanthated or decanoate it's going to be equal about three hours of at best 150mg test base. Basically worthless. The reason they say to take 4 andro multiple times a day is to get a sustained high dose of test, which really unless it's 300mg at a time 3x daily, isn't going to help much more than to fight lethargy.

That all being said I noticed unesterified 4 andro kick in after the second dose on day one but I was two weeks into 1-andro at 330mg a day.
 
Old Witch said:
Well, at 150mg unless it's enanthated or decanoate it's going to be equal about three hours of at best 150mg test base. Basically worthless. The reason they say to take 4 andro multiple times a day is to get a sustained high dose of test, which really unless it's 300mg at a time 3x daily, isn't going to help much more than to fight lethargy.

That all being said I noticed unesterified 4 andro kick in after the second dose on day one but I was two weeks into 1-andro at 330mg a day.
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It is decanoated
 
Old Witch said:
Well, at 150mg unless it's enanthated or decanoate it's going to be equal about three hours of at best 150mg test base. Basically worthless. The reason they say to take 4 andro multiple times a day is to get a sustained high dose of test, which really unless it's 300mg at a time 3x daily, isn't going to help much more than to fight lethargy.

That all being said I noticed unesterified 4 andro kick in after the second dose on day one but I was two weeks into 1-andro at 330mg a day.
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That being said that it is esthered, I take each twice a day. 75mg twice a day. Is it even worth running?
 
Brain5ick said:
That being said that it is esthered, I take each twice a day. 75mg twice a day. Is it even worth running?
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I just cant see that being effective at all at 150mg/day. I ran it once and pushed it above 500 and though I believe it helped, I still completely crashed my estrogen running dien-dial alongside it. Which makes me think minimal at best. And that a stack of bills to run it that high. That's when real test entered the main stage!
 
Brain5ick said:
That being said that it is esthered, I take each twice a day. 75mg twice a day. Is it even worth running?
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Yes because it's half life is super long and you're building up a plasma level. Won't really kick in for a couple of weeks.
 
I’m guessing a low to high conversion rate. I just don’t want to take something that’s going to convert to lower test than I already have for not much pay off. I guess that’s my point.
 
It's going to build up over the course of a few weeks, so anywhere between 10% and 70% of the total daily dose added up over that time frame. Not really any sure fire way to know except to test the blood. I would imagine of the 900mg/week they're hoping at least 500mg converts.
 
Old Witch said:
It's going to build up over the course of a few weeks, so anywhere between 10% and 70% of the total daily dose added up over that time frame. Not really any sure fire way to know except to test the blood. I would imagine of the 900mg/week they're hoping at least 500mg converts.
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So theoretically at that rate I’d be left with the same level of test I have now but I could run other compounds like LGD without fear of suppression. I’m also running this stuff with Animal Stack which makes me feel great btw lol I enjoy the hell outta it but there may not be much point when I’ll be mildly suppressed in a few weeks but we shall see! Was gonna use it in pct with clomid as well. Clomid would be dosed at 20-25mg ed for 3-4 weeks.
 
Ehhhh there is not a single man walking whose test levels equal a 500mg weekly shot of test decanoate. Well, gorillas probably.
 
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