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Unanswered Anavar vs Epistane

Epi and winny felt the same to me. Winny I had joint issues, not any on epi. I was running with trest so that prob helped. So stronger, more lean look, but joint issues. Was cutting so can't comment on weight gain.

Var: I had the WORST pumps on var. Couldn't run, squat over 8 reps per set, but I did feel super pumped all the time. Didn't noticed a huge strength but definitely something.

if your low on cash or running solo ids prob go epi or winny. If you can't handle the dry joints, then try Var.

IMO Var isnt worth the price for a guy unless your competing. And it's more often faked so you have to have a reliable source.
Who knows, maybe my Var was Faked and I'd really like it but I don't have the money to experiment on that rn lol
 
I have both, mainly wanting something that is (supposedly) easy on the liver and also prostate, so something not very androgenic I believe (from what I’ve read the anabolic:androgenic ratio can help determine things like being harsh on prostate, correct?)
 
Kratom267 said:
I have both, mainly wanting something that is (supposedly) easy on the liver and also prostate, so something not very androgenic I believe (from what I’ve read the anabolic:androgenic ratio can help determine things like being harsh on prostate, correct?)
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If your wanting the less harsh one than anavar will win. It is one of the least harsh orals and some people will take for long cycles if they can afford.

Also if you look at it's medical purposes patients will take for long periods of times. Much lower dose of course, but for me that has some value.

If you don't mind what are you planning your cycle to be?
 
SouthPawSD said:
If your wanting the less harsh one than anavar will win. It is one of the least harsh orals and some people will take for long cycles if they can afford.

Also if you look at it's medical purposes patients will take for long periods of times. Much lower dose of course, but for me that has some value.

If you don't mind what are you planning your cycle to be?
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Lean bulk, which is why I’m leaning towards Epistane as I’ve heard var alone (though I am on TRT) doesn’t do much. I have a bottle of Havoc and enough Anavar to run 7 weeks at 50mg. Thinking I might save the Anavar for a stack in the future though.
I know there’s much better compounds for a lean bulk out there but would like to work with what I have for now... the rest of my stash is Olympus uk crap, sadly!
 
I personally hate Epistane, always gives me shitty sides and besides a tad strength increase I don’t notice anything. But I have seen some people really transform taking it.
 
Kratom267 said:
Lean bulk, which is why I’m leaning towards Epistane as I’ve heard var alone (though I am on TRT) doesn’t do much. I have a bottle of Havoc and enough Anavar to run 7 weeks at 50mg. Thinking I might save the Anavar for a stack in the future though.
I know there’s much better compounds for a lean bulk out there but would like to work with what I have for now... the rest of my stash is Olympus uk crap, sadly!
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Ah if that's the case then Epistane is the one for you. Ya Var is only good for cutting for guys imo.

Ya sad about the OL UK stuff! Had good pH from them in the past
 
Kratom267 said:
Lean bulk, which is why I’m leaning towards Epistane as I’ve heard var alone (though I am on TRT) doesn’t do much. I have a bottle of Havoc and enough Anavar to run 7 weeks at 50mg. Thinking I might save the Anavar for a stack in the future though.
I know there’s much better compounds for a lean bulk out there but would like to work with what I have for now... the rest of my stash is Olympus uk crap, sadly!
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Epi stacks really well. Maybe a low dose Trest if you’re on TRT, May as well enjoy suppressive stuff. Trest and DHTs makes one hell of a transformation. You’d be out only $90 more bucks if you get some pro Trest, enough for 7 weeks.
 
Thanks for posting this because that’s the same decision I am trying to make. Anavar sounds perfect but I want to run a good dose for a good amount of time and obviously it’s expensive. So I’m pretty sure I’m gonna to go with Epi. I’m really excited. I’m looking for strength gains with not much size and they both sound perfect. Keep us updated on what you choose and if it’s epistane, how long at what dose?
 
Yeah going with Epistane (Havoc) @ 30mg for 6 weeks. Might up to 40mg if things go smoothly. I’ll save the Var to stack with something like Max, perhaps
 
Kratom267 said:
Yeah going with Epistane (Havoc) @ 30mg for 6 weeks. Might up to 40mg if things go smoothly. I’ll save the Var to stack with something like Max, perhaps
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I respect caution but if you’re one of the few that Epi sucks for, you’ll know either way, if you’re the other 80%, you’ll want 40-60mg for it to do much.
 
Matthersby said:
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I respect caution but if you’re one of the few that Epi sucks for, you’ll know either way, if you’re the other 80%, you’ll want 40-60mg for it to do much.
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Yeah I’ll run it at 40mg, the more logs I’ve read, seems like that is the sweet spot. Thanks!
You ever heard of Epistane effecting the prostate much? I know it’s a possibility with any of these types of compounds, just wanna know if it’s something that is fairly common as far as side effects go
 
Kratom267 said:
Yeah I’ll run it at 40mg, the more logs I’ve read, seems like that is the sweet spot. Thanks!
You ever heard of Epistane effecting the prostate much? I know it’s a possibility with any of these types of compounds, just wanna know if it’s something that is fairly common as far as side effects go
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Ya DHTs do. It will but it’s long term injectables that’ll get you. Not 4-6 weeks in a milder oral.
 
jrock645 said:
Ive run epi 3 times and never needed more than 30mg.
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I was hammer curling 65s on 60mg a day though and only side effect I had was blood pressure and back pumps. Stuff starts feeling more like Winnie over 40+
30 will work, sure, but 40-50 is hella nice. If you’re one of the people that feel like death on Epi, it’ll happen at 20+
 
Starting Havoc tomorrow, hopefully all goes well.

Random question, why are some designers methyl and others aren’t?
 
Kratom267 said:
Starting Havoc tomorrow, hopefully all goes well.

Random question, why are some designers methyl and others aren’t?
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They all are I’m sure. Maybe they don’t put the whole nomenclature.
My guess is the others might be Epiandro and just look like they’re supposed to be Epi.
 
40 seems the sweet spot for many, but for me, 30 mg got me shredded just fine. It's different person to person of course, but id start there & move up to 40 if you need to.
 
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