Anavar recomp recommendation

drejb

drejb

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Hey fellas.

It’s been a WHILE since I’ve posted on here and I know I’ve posted something similar before but fresh opinions never hurt.

Been thinking about doing a recomp with var. just looking for a little bit of fat loss and some more density. Nothing out of this world.

I’m 29 years old
5’11
190
Around 12-14% BF (love handle king)

I will add a photo below

and have been on TRT for 1.5 years.

Current trt

150mg test E
1000iu HCG
.75 adex

Per week.

Also donate blood every 3-6 months (not sure if it matters)

A buddy of mine gave me some of his var he only dipped into and stopped using. it has enough to give me about 4 quick weeks at this dose:

20/20/40/40 stacked with the TRT

I’ve never touched var before, have always thought about it though

Two questions

1. Is this short cycle enough to see any results at all? Should I even bother?

2. If I run this cycle, do I just continue with TRT and skip PCT? (Noob question, pretty sure the answer is yes just looking to validate)

Cheers guys. Thanks for the help good to be back

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Idk how much results you'll see off of it. But yeah keep your trt and skip pct. It wouldnt hurt to run it, but i would get more to run it higher
 
I've ran Var numerous times-- At your BF/Physique, you would see very nice results off Var, it is the king of recomp/cut. BUT, at that dosage and length, I would really run it twice as long and at a higher dose. My 2 cents.
 
mikeymike85 said:
I've ran Var numerous times-- At your BF/Physique, you would see very nice results off Var, it is the king of recomp/cut. BUT, at that dosage and length, I would really run it twice as long and at a higher dose. My 2 cents.
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5 weeks 20/40/40/60/60

?
 
It's such nonsense talking about a cut/recomp drug. Diet harder and take a drug that's actually useful for muscle growth like dbol
 
drejb said:
5 weeks 20/40/40/60/60

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You do have an advantage over a lot of us, because you don't have to run a proper pct.
IMO, that cycle looks better, but if you want really good results.... shoot for 8 weeks. (Although I dont believe 5 weeks would be a waste).
Var is one of my favorites.
Just my opinion.
 
Brenwad said:
It's such nonsense talking about a cut/recomp drug. Diet harder and take a drug that's actually useful for muscle growth like dbol
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I don’t want to be a bloated mess.

Also if you read the post I’m not really looking for muscle growth
 
drejb said:
I don’t want to be a bloated mess.

Also if you read the post I’m not really looking for muscle growth
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From what I’ve seen the main issue with var seems to be getting a legit source.....often faked by all accounts......you’ve a great base to recomp from imo.
 
You could get some results off that but common sense answer is that is a low dose and not a long cycle so longer with a higher dose would be better. If you weren't on TRT I would say its a waste getting surpressed for little gains but it might be worth taking if you can get a good deal on the var. Should be able to put a handful of quality LBS on you if you eat right and maybe lose a bit of fat too.
 
I can run 20-40mg a day over 5 weeks and recomp nicely w trt dose test. If youre already lean which you are and have legit var, know how to train and eat of course it will work well. Gear should assist your goals not be the answer for them. You can recomp on those doses with your condition IF your anavar is legit and dosed properly.
 
Godstrength said:
I can run 20-40mg a day over 5 weeks and recomp nicely w trt dose test. If youre already lean which you are and have legit var, know how to train and eat of course it will work well. Gear should assist your goals not be the answer for them. You can recomp on those doses with your condition IF your anavar is legit and dosed properly.
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Thanks dude. Avatar was from a couple years back. Photo included in this original post is my current state
 
Use it five days on and two days off at 40mg the whole run.

Anavar IS great for recomp because (as I say all the time) it increases your caloric demand for stasis, meaning even eating at a surplus you lose fat.
 
Old Witch said:
Use it five days on and two days off at 40mg the whole run.

Anavar IS great for recomp because (as I say all the time) it increases your caloric demand for stasis, meaning even eating at a surplus you lose fat.
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Why take 2 days off?
 
BBiceps said:
Why take 2 days off?
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Because he doesn't have enough to run 7 day weeks at 40mg, for one. Two I find taking that short break helps keep any blood pressure issues down, liver enzymes down, without really sacrificing much if anything.
 
Brenwad said:
It's such nonsense talking about a cut/recomp drug. Diet harder and take a drug that's actually useful for muscle growth like dbol
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I shook my head at this post. Dbol is one of the weakest steroids to put on muscle tissue... Anavar is significantly more myotropic. Anadrol is significantly more myotropic... Dbol is weakly myotropic, hardly any myonuclei donated, almost no tissue accretion, and studies have shown this. You must think the temporary water weight from dbol = muscle growth.

OP, Anavar is far more potent for muscle growth than dbol, you won't get the crazy water bloat but it will be net weight more protein accretion and actual muscle tissue... you know... the dry leftover stuff after the water goes away ;)
 
weltweite said:
I shook my head at this post. Dbol is one of the weakest steroids to put on muscle tissue... Anavar is significantly more myotropic. Anadrol is significantly more myotropic... Dbol is weakly myotropic, hardly any myonuclei donated, almost no tissue accretion, and studies have shown this. You must think the temporary water weight from dbol = muscle growth.

OP, Anavar is far more potent for muscle growth than dbol, you won't get the crazy water bloat but it will be net weight more protein accretion and actual muscle tissue... you know... the dry leftover stuff after the water goes away ;)
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I like this guy.
 
weltweite said:
I shook my head at this post. Dbol is one of the weakest steroids to put on muscle tissue... Anavar is significantly more myotropic. Anadrol is significantly more myotropic... Dbol is weakly myotropic, hardly any myonuclei donated, almost no tissue accretion, and studies have shown this. You must think the temporary water weight from dbol = muscle growth.

OP, Anavar is far more potent for muscle growth than dbol, you won't get the crazy water bloat but it will be net weight more protein accretion and actual muscle tissue... you know... the dry leftover stuff after the water goes away ;)
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Dbol increases performance (strenght, recovery) so from this point of view it will help build muscle faster. More recovery = more volume = more growth. Also the agression and alpha feeling you get from it helps a lot. But for me dbol stops at 30mg (with a test base), beyond from that I get to aggressive.

50mg var + 30mg dbol is a nice stack for me.
 
mikeymike85 said:
I've ran Var numerous times-- At your BF/Physique, you would see very nice results off Var, it is the king of recomp/cut. BUT, at that dosage and length, I would really run it twice as long and at a higher dose. My 2 cents.
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Yup that's pretty much a perfect steroid for his physique to recomp.
 
I think people underestimate the muscle building ability of anavar. If you refer to scientific studies it has increased lean body mass by 11% in bedridden patients; no lifting at all. And that's at 10mg/ day if I remember correctly.
 
Jinsun said:
Dbol increases performance (strenght, recovery) so from this point of view it will help build muscle faster. More recovery = more volume = more growth. Also the agression and alpha feeling you get from it helps a lot. But for me dbol stops at 30mg (with a test base), beyond from that I get to aggressive.

50mg var + 30mg dbol is a nice stack for me.
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Dbol recovery is not greater than anavar recovery. Increasing strength is not a direct correlation with actual dry weight tissue accretion.
You are correct that more volume without overtraining = more growth phases over a time period.
Aggression and alpha feeling while nice has nothing to do with dry weight tissue accretion.

I am well aware of the leverage dbol can give, but sadly studies show that after dbol is over the "muscle composition" is different than from other steroids and results in almost a full loss. Left with hardly any dry weight gain of tissue.

Fascinating study on Dbol:

Clin Sci (Lond). 1981 Apr;60(4):457-61.
Effects of methandienone on the performance and body composition of men undergoing athletic training.

1. In a previous study of the effects of methandienone (Dianabol) on men undergoing athletic training, strength and performance increased, but not significantly more when the subjects were taking the drug than when they were taking placebo. The subjects did, however, gain more weight on the drug, with increases in total body potassium and muscle dimensions. It remained an open question whether the muscles had gained normal tissue or intracellular fluid. 2. In an attempt to distinguish between these possibilities the trial has been repeated, using as subjects seven male weight-lifters in regular training, and including measurements of total body nitrogen. As before, a dose of 100 mg of methandienone/day was given alternately with the placebo in a double-blind crossover experiment. The treatment periods lasted 6 weeks and were separated by an interval of 6 weeks. Body weight, potassium and nitrogen, muscle size, and leg performance and strength increased significantly during training on the drug, but not during the placebo period. 3. The finding of increased body nitrogen suggested that the weight gain was not only intracellular fluid. The increases in body potassium (436 +/- SEM 41 mmol) and nitrogen (255 +/- 69 g) were too large in proportion to the weight gain (2.3 +/- 0.4 kg) for this to be attributed to gain of normal muscle or other lean tissue, and imply gain of nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance. Although this action of methandienone might be described as anabolic, the weight gain produced is not normal muscle.

"nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance" sounds... icky doesn't it?
 
weltweite said:
Dbol recovery is not greater than anavar recovery. Increasing strength is not a direct correlation with actual dry weight tissue accretion.
You are correct that more volume without overtraining = more growth phases over a time period.
Aggression and alpha feeling while nice has nothing to do with dry weight tissue accretion.

I am well aware of the leverage dbol can give, but sadly studies show that after dbol is over the "muscle composition" is different than from other steroids and results in almost a full loss. Left with hardly any dry weight gain of tissue.

Fascinating study on Dbol:

Clin Sci (Lond). 1981 Apr;60(4):457-61.
Effects of methandienone on the performance and body composition of men undergoing athletic training.

1. In a previous study of the effects of methandienone (Dianabol) on men undergoing athletic training, strength and performance increased, but not significantly more when the subjects were taking the drug than when they were taking placebo. The subjects did, however, gain more weight on the drug, with increases in total body potassium and muscle dimensions. It remained an open question whether the muscles had gained normal tissue or intracellular fluid. 2. In an attempt to distinguish between these possibilities the trial has been repeated, using as subjects seven male weight-lifters in regular training, and including measurements of total body nitrogen. As before, a dose of 100 mg of methandienone/day was given alternately with the placebo in a double-blind crossover experiment. The treatment periods lasted 6 weeks and were separated by an interval of 6 weeks. Body weight, potassium and nitrogen, muscle size, and leg performance and strength increased significantly during training on the drug, but not during the placebo period. 3. The finding of increased body nitrogen suggested that the weight gain was not only intracellular fluid. The increases in body potassium (436 +/- SEM 41 mmol) and nitrogen (255 +/- 69 g) were too large in proportion to the weight gain (2.3 +/- 0.4 kg) for this to be attributed to gain of normal muscle or other lean tissue, and imply gain of nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance. Although this action of methandienone might be described as anabolic, the weight gain produced is not normal muscle.

"nitrogen-rich, phosphate-poor substance" sounds... icky doesn't it?
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Well it's known that dbol adds water but it is a great strength drug not to mention that even though you're much bigger (cause) of water, it doesn't mean you built less muscle and added (only) water. It's still a quite strong bulker even if I wouldn't call it the best.
 
Brenwad said:
It's such nonsense talking about a cut/recomp drug. Diet harder and take a drug that's actually useful for muscle growth like dbol
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I agree you can take test and deca and if your diet is strict on point you will not become a water buffalo
 
Chados said:
Well it's known that dbol adds water but it is a great strength drug not to mention that even though you're much bigger (cause) of water, it doesn't mean you built less muscle and added (only) water. It's still a quite strong bulker even if I wouldn't call it the best.
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I'm more fascinated with the fact that they fed the participant's with 100mg dbol a day! lol is this serious or is it a typo??
 
People putting sub q sloppy water weight don’t know how to eat right. Carbs hold water and take in too much and it goes sub q. I ran my high trt dose cypionate all the way to contest day and was lean as can be. That’s another nonsense topic as well about short ester tests hold less water. It’s all the same hormone haha where did all these myths come from guys lol. Cutting compounds bulking compounds ��*♂️
 
Jinsun said:
I'm more fascinated with the fact that they fed the participant's with 100mg dbol a day! lol is this serious or is it a typo??
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I don't know about this test but no I believe it's serious. They've given anadrol at 150mg for months.. Granted these people take it due to illness and even if it can cause some damage, the damage they would have without taking it would be worse. Its not really recommended obviously and most people won't benefit form it at all but it's not as bad as people think.
 
Chados said:
I don't know about this test but no I believe it's serious. They've given anadrol at 150mg for months.. Granted these people take it due to illness and even if it can cause some damage, the damage they would have without taking it would be worse. Its not really recommended obviously and most people won't benefit form it at all but it's not as bad as people think.
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Well they used "7 male weight-lifters" so I'm guessing they were healthy haha But I do understand your point though.

150 anadrol yikes. Was this a study done to see if aas could be an alternative to plastic surgery breast enlargements on male transgender patients?
 
Jinsun said:
Well they used "7 male weight-lifters" so I'm guessing they were healthy haha But I do understand your point though.

150 anadrol yikes. Was this a study done to see if aas could be an alternative to plastic surgery breast enlargements on male transgender patients?
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I think it's mostly for hiv and muscle waste. The liver will notice the effect though don't get me wrong here. It is possible though for most people to run it like that and I think it was 16 weeks. That's like saying I can drink a whole Whiskey or a beer and survive though, so anyone reading this don't try it at home.
 
Chados said:
I think it's mostly for hiv and muscle waste. The liver will notice the effect though don't get me wrong here. It is possible though for most people to run it like that and I think it was 16 weeks. That's like saying I can drink a whole Whiskey or a beer and survive though, so anyone reading this don't try it at home.
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Ive taken 50mgs of anadrol for months straight and my bloods were fine. I never went higher because 100 makes me filled just juiced to the gills. I turn beet red bp goes up junk doesnt work etc etc. I imagine 150 would be horrible. Id probably rather waste away than feel like death everyday
 
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