Anavar Log

subb'd :) hope you get shredded mate! if i was gonna cut with aas id go with test e/primo/anavar, but since im the epitome of ectomorph i just get on the ol' albuterol + ostarine train and im under 10%, id be interested in seeing just how effective a var only cycle works though.
 
SkubaSteve89 said:
subb'd :) hope you get shredded mate! if i was gonna cut with aas id go with test e/primo/anavar, but since im the epitome of ectomorph i just get on the ol' albuterol + ostarine train and im under 10%, id be interested in seeing just how effective a var only cycle works though.
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Test/primo/var would make you absolutely shredded!! I'll probably do that sometime next year for my next cutting cycle. Im just looking for strength and dropping some bf. im at 14.6 so hopefully I can be around 11-12% by the end of this cycle. Thanks for joining me bro
 
MrJuice said:
Test/primo/var would make you absolutely shredded!! I'll probably do that sometime next year for my next cutting cycle. Im just looking for strength and dropping some bf. im at 14.6 so hopefully I can be around 11-12% by the end of this cycle. Thanks for joining me bro
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yeah dude a mate of mine got contest ready with the following cycle:
Test E: 500mg p/wk week 1-12
Primo: 500mg p/wk week 1-12
Anavar: 50mg p/wk week 7-14
A-Bombs: 50mg ED week 1-4

he also had hcg and arimidex, and then for pct did torem nolva clen and S4 - pricey + id imagine his liver would be a bit hurt but he got down to 4% bf, he came first at the 2010 Junior Nationals in Australia and he looked like he gained a bit of beef as well, so maybe for ur next cycle u could do something like that.
 
SkubaSteve89 said:
yeah dude a mate of mine got contest ready with the following cycle:
Test E: 500mg p/wk week 1-12
Primo: 500mg p/wk week 1-12
Anavar: 50mg p/wk week 7-14
A-Bombs: 50mg ED week 1-4

he also had hcg and arimidex, and then for pct did torem nolva clen and S4 - pricey + id imagine his liver would be a bit hurt but he got down to 4% bf, he came first at the 2010 Junior Nationals in Australia and he looked like he gained a bit of beef as well, so maybe for ur next cycle u could do something like that.
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4% is insane bro! Ill definitely look into that
 
MrJuice said:
I'm not sure there is any water gain haha. Everything is lean solid muscle. It doesn't come quickly though as var is a slow acting compound. But if it's your first cycle ever, you should run a Test only cycle.
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True true... Test is best! (from what I read on here)
 
MrJuice said:
Sorry I didn't mention it. Yes I am doing a PCT. I have nolva and im doing 40/20/20 which should be good especially since var DOESN'T hit you as hard. It will suppress your natty levels but won't completely shut you down. Everyone is different but I've never heard of anyone's natty test being 100% suppressed on a var only cycle.
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Hate to tell you but it's an anabolic steroid. There is mild suppression and there's shutdown. An 8 week cycle even at 50mg will shut u down completely. Look at this study if you want. This study was done for only 5 days with a dose of only 15mg. There free test levels were at 490 I think if I remember right after 5 days 98.
8 weeks =shutdown.

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BigShadow said:
Hate to tell you but it's an anabolic steroid. There is mild suppression and there's shutdown. An 8 week cycle even at 50mg will shut u down completely. Look at this study if you want. This study was done for only 5 days with a dose of only 15mg. There free test levels were at 490 I think if I remember right after 5 days 98.
8 weeks =shutdown.


I'm not going to argue with you. I know it's an AAS. But everyone is different. What's for sure is that it doesn't hit as hard as other anabolics so depending on the person, it will not FULLY suppress natty test. I'm using this thread for a log, not a debate. Plus I'm taking a PCT so it doesn't matter.
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Today's weight: 191.7

Missed the gym because I had to babysit my nephew. The bowel related sides are gone along with the tiredness. I'm seeing veins a lot more now but they aren't bulging. It's as if my skin is thinning or something. The veins that pop out while I work out are starting to bulge just because. Muscles feel a little bit harder. So far do good I guess. I'll see if I can hit the gym later and update.
 
Okay guys, today is the day I might or might not join the dark side and here is the lowdown:

-I JUST want to reach 5-8% BF after doing a var only cycle. I don't care about LBM gains, I'm already loaded with muscles all natty.
-I'm gona start at 20mg/day and bump that to 30mg/day for 6 weeks.
-For PCT, I'm following mrjuice's 40/20/20 on nolvadex.

My questions are:
-Will I hit my target bodyfat% (5-8%) on this ?
-Will I get that vascularity and muscle hardness people claim they've gotten ?
 
BTBBC said:
Okay guys, today is the day I might or might not join the dark side and here is the lowdown:

-I JUST want to reach 5-8% BF after doing a var only cycle. I don't care about LBM gains, I'm already loaded with muscles all natty.
-I'm gona start at 20mg/day and bump that to 30mg/day for 6 weeks.
-For PCT, I'm following mrjuice's 40/20/20 on nolvadex.

My questions are:
-Will I hit my target bodyfat% (5-8%) on this ?
-Will I get that vascularity and muscle hardness people claim they've gotten ?
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Personally I'd do 60mg. I'm only doing 50mg because I have 50mg caps. From 30mg, I wouldn't know what you'd get. Maybe vascularity but I don't know about hardness or getting to your bf goal.
 
Okay guys week one is complete! Typo the other day when I said day 6....

Today's weight: 192.7

Workout went great! I'm continuing to see strength gains. But I'm questioning if my var is really var because strength gains usually come around week 2? I don't know. Machines were all backed up so I stuck with free weights today.

BICEPS:
Ez Bar preacher curls
-65 lbs x 10 (easy)
-75 lbs x 10 (easy)
-85 lbs x 10 (moderate)

Hammer curl
-25 lbs x 10
-2 sets 40 lbs x 10

Wheel Curl
-25 lbs x 10
-40 lbs x 10 (2 sets)

21s (cables)
-37.5 lbs x 21
-50 lbs x 21

Isolation incline bis
-70 lbs x 10
-80 lbs x 10
-90 lbs x 6


TRICEPS:
Dumbell Extension (never done these before)
-70 lbs x 10 (easy-moderate)
-75 lbs x 10 (moderate-hard)
-90 lbs x 5 (hard)

Single Tricep extension
-40 lbs x 10 (2 sets, easy)

Rope pulldowns
-50 lbs x 10
-65 lbs x 10

Overhead rope extension
-50 lbs x 10
-57.5 lbs x 10
-65 lbs x 10

Bar pulldowns
-50 lbs x 10
-57 lbs x 10

Dips
-body weight x 10


Not much of a workout because my partner rushed me -_-

Notes-
Vascularity is pretty good! Bicep veins were bigger and bulging more than usual. Some new forearm veins bulged during the workout. Not tired after dosage. I'm starting to like this cycle. Hope to see even more in the next 7 weeks. Try and update tomorrows workout
 
Anavar from my understanding is a straight cutter. Not meant for high strength gain or muscle mass. Maybe a few lbs but nothing drastic.
 
halfhuman said:
Anavar from my understanding is a straight cutter. Not meant for high strength gain or muscle mass. Maybe a few lbs but nothing drastic.
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It is a cutter but you still get good strength gains. People can add 40-60lbs to their bench press which is pretty good. Anything you gain is solid lean mass but yeah, only a few pounds. If you would've read my previous posts, my goals are to tone up and add some extra strength.
 
MrJuice bro, can you explain to me what exactly nolvadex is used for ?

I mean, how does take away the "shutdown" caused by var ?
 
BTBBC said:
MrJuice bro, can you explain to me what exactly nolvadex is used for ?

I mean, how does take away the "shutdown" caused by var ?
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Chemical athletes use SERMs because they raise the testosterone level. One of the ways that the body monitors its own production of sex hormones is by keeping an eye on the concentration of estradiol in the blood. If it gets too high then sex hormone production is reduced - including the production of testosterone. Because the control mechanisms make use of estradiol receptors, SERMs crank up testosterone production. That's why chemical athletes use substances like tamoxifen after taking a course of steroids.
 
murk01 said:
How about pumps? Does var do anything to increase pumps?
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Yes! Sorry I forgot to mention that earlier in my notes and my Internet went out when I tried posting. Great pump today! My arms felt great! Nothing beats a great pump and vascular arms haha.
 
howwedo107 said:
Chemical athletes use SERMs because they raise the testosterone level. One of the ways that the body monitors its own production of sex hormones is by keeping an eye on the concentration of estradiol in the blood. If it gets too high then sex hormone production is reduced - including the production of testosterone. Because the control mechanisms make use of estradiol receptors, SERMs crank up testosterone production. That's why chemical athletes use substances like tamoxifen after taking a course of steroids.
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This^ Great post bro. I was just gonna say it helps raise test levels after shutdown haha. You got all fancy haha
 
howwedo107 said:
Chemical athletes use SERMs because they raise the testosterone level. One of the ways that the body monitors its own production of sex hormones is by keeping an eye on the concentration of estradiol in the blood. If it gets too high then sex hormone production is reduced - including the production of testosterone. Because the control mechanisms make use of estradiol receptors, SERMs crank up testosterone production. That's why chemical athletes use substances like tamoxifen after taking a course of steroids.
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So nolvadex is considered to be a SERM ?

EDIT: nolvadex = tamoxifen. Thanks for the elaborate answer!
 
Well I cut today's leg workout super short due to possible hernia. I'm seeing the doctor tomorrow and will let you guys know.
 
Oh no bro I hope it's nothing like that get it check and give us updates!! Good workout btw.
 
packers6211 said:
Oh no bro I hope it's nothing like that get it check and give us updates!! Good workout btw.
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I'm at the doctors right now waiting to be called. I'll let you guys know!!
 
Good news! Just pulled my abdominal muscle. I'll still be able to lift. But I'm taking a rest from deads and squats for 2 weeks.
 
MrJuice said:
Good news! Just pulled my abdominal muscle. I'll still be able to lift. But I'm taking a rest from deads and squats for 2 weeks.
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GOOOOD!!!!!! bro that is awsome man I don't like seeing anyone little alone one of my forum bro's down and out.
 
packers6211 said:
GOOOOD!!!!!! bro that is awsome man I don't like seeing anyone little alone one of my forum bro's down and out.
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Haha thanks bro. I'll be back in on Monday. Gonna hit chest and see if I can add a few more reps to my 225 or 255
 
Hey mr.juice,

sorry for me keeping on posting here but you seem to be the only one on the internet replying back to my questions lol (thanks bro).

So I'm starting a 6-week var only cycle tomorrow and this is what I'll be doing:

-Anavar @50mg/day
-Milk thistle for liver support (Don't know the dosage though, maybe you can help with that?)
-Nolvadex for three weeks at 40/20/20 pct.

Am I good to go ?
 
BTBBC said:
Hey mr.juice,

sorry for me keeping on posting here but you seem to be the only one on the internet replying back to my questions lol (thanks bro).

So I'm starting a 6-week var only cycle tomorrow and this is what I'll be doing:

-Anavar @50mg/day
-Milk thistle for liver support (Don't know the dosage though, maybe you can help with that?)
-Nolvadex for three weeks at 40/20/20 pct.

Am I good to go ?
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I'm glad to help bro. Sounds good but I'd us Liv 52. Milk thistle actually isnt good for you. It does guard your liver but your liver can repair 25% of itself. That's like us losing a leg and growing another one. So by blocking your liver, it's not doing its job so the milk thistle is actually bad. That's what I've read on another forum. Glad you bumped up the dose to 50mg. Good luck bro!
 
MrJuice said:
I'm glad to help bro. Sounds good but I'd us Liv 52. Milk thistle actually isnt good for you. It does guard your liver but your liver can repair 25% of itself. That's like us losing a leg and growing another one. So by blocking your liver, it's not doing its job so the milk thistle is actually bad. That's what I've read on another forum. Glad you bumped up the dose to 50mg. Good luck bro!
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Is liv 52 a brand name or is it the name of a substance ?
 
Hey, I'm 20 year old and have been looking into Anavar for a while now and am finally making the purchase. I lost a lot of weight/strength over the summer due to my job, so I want to do an 8 week cycle of 50mg ED. Just to bounce back a little quicker. My only question is when to stay the PCT. right after my last day or starting the last week of the anavar cycle? And can I buy Nolvadex at a store? Also is a liver support necessary for anavar? I've heard it's pretty mild.

6'3"
190lbs
12% BF
 
Sorry, from what I've seen at local vitamin stores they all carry PCTs and everyone has said Nolvadex is a PCT. Didn't realize it was bad to be inexperienced with steroids.
 
CMAck said:
Sorry, from what I've seen at local vitamin stores they all carry PCTs and everyone has said Nolvadex is a PCT. Didn't realize it was bad to be inexperienced with steroids.
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The reason be is your only 20. Should wait till Atleast 25 to touch any ph. Also you thinking on doing a cycle without educating yourself before asking questions. Everyone on this board will help u stay away, not help you do a cycle at that age.
 
Asking questions is a way to educate so I don't see how that's an issue. I understand the whole age thing but seeing as all my growth plates have closed that won't be a problem. And I you're going to say there is an effect on brain development doesn't hold a lot of ground considering there have been studies going in both directions. What it comes down to is me making the decision and either you could help by answering or I'll find another place to get my questions answered.
 
CMAck said:
Sorry, from what I've seen at local vitamin stores they all carry PCTs and everyone has said Nolvadex is a PCT. Didn't realize it was bad to be inexperienced with steroids.
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I was laughing to when I read, :if you can but it in the store.
Then I remembered gaspar has a product with the same name in GMC.
Dude completely different.
 
CMAck said:
Asking questions is a way to educate so I don't see how that's an issue. I understand the whole age thing but seeing as all my growth plates have closed that won't be a problem. And I you're going to say there is an effect on brain development doesn't hold a lot of ground considering there have been studies going in both directions. What it comes down to is me making the decision and either you could help by answering or I'll find another place to get my questions answered.
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Ur better off waiting a little more. U mat have grown, but u still should wait for ur endo to be fully developed.
Use the next year or two to get ur diet and workout routine on lock. Var pa expensive u don't want to blow it or ur body.
 
murk01 said:
Juice..... so what's the wrap up for now. Gains , bf loss?. Or still to soon
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Sorry I've been away guys, busy with house stuff. My weight seems to be fluctuating a lot during the day but my stomach seems to be a little smaller. My traps and delts look sick when I flex them haha. Back muscles seem a little more defined. Libido isn't really effected. Veins only pop out on workout days, sadly. I'm noticing some new veins in my calves which is pretty awesome. I'll update after today's workout for strength gains.
 
CMAck said:
Hey, I'm 20 year old and have been looking into Anavar for a while now and am finally making the purchase. I lost a lot of weight/strength over the summer due to my job, so I want to do an 8 week cycle of 50mg ED. Just to bounce back a little quicker. My only question is when to stay the PCT. right after my last day or starting the last week of the anavar cycle? And can I buy Nolvadex at a store? Also is a liver support necessary for anavar? I've heard it's pretty mild.

6'3"
190lbs
12% BF
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Bro you're better off staying natty for a few more years. Spend all this time learning about AAS and PCT. also get your diet locked down and you may not even need to cycle. Learn as much as you possibly can before using any compound. Once you have, come back, ask questions and well be glad to help.
 
CMAck said:
Asking questions is a way to educate so I don't see how that's an issue. I understand the whole age thing but seeing as all my growth plates have closed that won't be a problem. And I you're going to say there is an effect on brain development doesn't hold a lot of ground considering there have been studies going in both directions. What it comes down to is me making the decision and either you could help by answering or I'll find another place to get my questions answered.
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Nothing wrong with asking question but the ignorance of not knowing the difference between nolvadelx (tamoxifen) and novadex xt, along with trying to cycle prematurely is why I gave the insensate answer. It has nothing to do with stunting growth.. Growt can e stunted by training itself and does not pose health risks.. Cycling early can cause damage to your endocrine system which yu definitely do not want bro
 
machorox123 said:
Nothing wrong with asking question but the ignorance of not knowing the difference between nolvadelx (tamoxifen) and novadex xt, along with trying to cycle prematurely is why I gave the insensate answer. It has nothing to do with stunting growth.. Growt can e stunted by training itself and does not pose health risks.. Cycling early can cause damage to your endocrine system which yu definitely do not want bro
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And might put you on TRT at 30 for the rest of your life
 
Ok guys. Post workout summary, if I remember everything correctly.


Biceps
Preacher curl machine 110 x 10, 125 x 10, 90 x 10

Incline Bicep isolator 70 x 10, 80 x 10, 90 x 5

21s cable 22.5 x 21, 32.5 x 10

Hammer curls 25 x 10 (2 sets)

Wheel curl 40 x 10 (2 sets)

Tricep
Overhead extension machine 160 x 10, 170 x 10, 180 x 10

Forward extension machine 170 x 10, 180 x 10, 140 x 10

Tricep Pulldown 42.5 x 10, 47 x 10, 52 x 10


Missed a few things today but still had a pretty good pump! Veins were insane during the 21s. When I was curling, they popped out like crazy and smoothed out when I declined. Strength kinda felt like it was up but it's been like 3 days since I've hit the gym so it probably wouldve been better if I went yesterday. Tomorrow I'm planning on a very light leg workout due to my pulled abdominal muscle, so well see how it goes.
 
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