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Anabolic Pump and Type 1 Diabetes

rexhunt

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Background: I'm a Type 1 Diabetic (i.e. Insulin Dependant as my pancreas no longer secreates Insuling) who was diagnosed at age 23.

Between getting a job that requires travelling at least 4 days a week and long hours I have definately let myself get out of shape and I am now determined to fix this situation.

I thoroughly believe that one of the issues I have encountered in past attempts to lose the fat build muscle have been hampered by my increasing insulin requirements as such I am just trying to anticipate what including Anabolic Pump will do to my insulin consumption.

I am on an insulin pump so it is very easy to control my insulin. From reading the literature I believe that I should see a reduction in both the amount of basal insulin I require and the sensitivity to any Bolus of insulin I give myself with food.

As I want to avoid as many Hypo-glycemic situations as possible as they lead to eating extra calories to raise blood sugar, well that and they are generally unpleasent.

Has anyone here been in a similar situation? Does anyone here have any advice? I am currently planning on reducing my basal insulin 15% and monitoring my blood sugar consistently after each meal to see where I am.

Any advice and/or validation is appreciated
 
Waiting for Jacob (USPlabs), Mulletsoldier or Strategicmove on this one.

This is a delicate issue.
 
Just to Clarify I'm not looking for Medical Advice (so no liability worries)

I would just like more an understanding of how the product works in my situation so that I can make appropriate adjustments myself.

Thanks
 
rexhunt said:
Background: I'm a Type 1 Diabetic (i.e. Insulin Dependant as my pancreas no longer secreates Insuling) who was diagnosed at age 23.

Between getting a job that requires travelling at least 4 days a week and long hours I have definately let myself get out of shape and I am now determined to fix this situation.

I thoroughly believe that one of the issues I have encountered in past attempts to lose the fat build muscle have been hampered by my increasing insulin requirements as such I am just trying to anticipate what including Anabolic Pump will do to my insulin consumption.

I am on an insulin pump so it is very easy to control my insulin. From reading the literature I believe that I should see a reduction in both the amount of basal insulin I require and the sensitivity to any Bolus of insulin I give myself with food.

As I want to avoid as many Hypo-glycemic situations as possible as they lead to eating extra calories to raise blood sugar, well that and they are generally unpleasent.

Has anyone here been in a similar situation? Does anyone here have any advice? I am currently planning on reducing my basal insulin 15% and monitoring my blood sugar consistently after each meal to see where I am.

Any advice and/or validation is appreciated
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In research, once the ingredients of AP where added the amount of insulin needed decreased.

The ingredeints in AP work indepedent of insulin unlike other products that work with the secretion of insulin.

The addition of AP in normal humans will reduce the need to release more insulin and which is one reason that fat burning can occur for a longer period of time because Insulin returns to basal levels much more quickly.

If you decide, I highly reccomend consulting with your current physician and we will be open to any of his questions.

IF you and your physician decide to go forward, I WOULD LOVE to hear the feedback.
 
USPLabs said:
In research, once the ingredients of AP where added the amount of insulin needed decreased.

The ingredeints in AP work indepedent of insulin unlike other products that work with the secretion of insulin.

The addition of AP in normal humans will reduce the need to release more insulin and which is one reason that fat burning can occur for a longer period of time because Insulin returns to basal levels much more quickly.

If you decide, I highly reccomend consulting with your current physician and we will be open to any of his questions.

IF you and your physician decide to go forward, I WOULD LOVE to hear the feedback.
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Thanks, I'm still waiting on my next batch of continuous Glucose monitoring sensors, so will hold off starting AP until I receive them.

I'll also talk to my Endo, though he has allways been very anti any sort of nutritional supplements stronger than a multi-vitamin.
 
Much of the research surrounding AP's ingredients has been on NIDDM, due to the noted increases in whole-bod sensitivity via GLUT4 mRNA expression, and the upregulation of IR and IR(s) binding affinity to Insulin. This being said, some of the literature reflects promise in their use as adjuvants in IDDM patients.

P-Slin on the other hand, contains an ingredient called, "Gymnema Sylvestre" which has been shown to have reparative action on the Beta Islet cells of the Langerhans, post-synaptically.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Much of the research surrounding AP's ingredients has been on NIDDM, due to the noted increases in whole-bod sensitivity via GLUT4 mRNA expression, and the upregulation of IR and IR(s) binding affinity to Insulin. This being said, some of the literature reflects promise in their use as adjuvants in IDDM patients.

P-Slin on the other hand, contains an ingredient called, "Gymnema Sylvestre" which has been shown to have reparative action on the Beta Islet cells of the Langerhans, post-synaptically.
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AP is the way to go if it is ok'd by endo and later adding in a P-SLIN or a 2 cap dose of AP would be the next progression.


Doctors are just scared to medical malpractice so they are conservative.

For Example in type 2 diabetics AP would be a better choice IN MY OPINION over Insulin.

With everything being said I been foolish in not asking to outline your diet? First and foremost, your diet is first.

Just writing this and thinking out-loud. I wonder if we can use our situation to your advantage by eating a very low carbohydrate, high fiber, protein/fat diet during the day(almost a non inulin dependent diet) and add in carbohydrates pre workout only and on some days post workout.


what do you think Mullet about the diet idea?
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Could work, obviously in conjunction with the advice of his doctor!
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Agree, especially in the context of pursuing a diet that would not stimulate spontaneous surges in the demand for insulin. His doctor should be versed in that area.
 
strategicmove said:
Agree, especially in the context of pursuing a diet that would not stimulate spontaneous surges in the demand for insulin. His doctor should be versed in that area.
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What do you think of my idea stag.

High fiber/good fat/ protein diet and maybe a 100grams pre workout with AP and insulin(with doctore permission).

Higher fiber coming from green leafy lettuce, dark colored vegies not only is it a tremendously healthy diet that can control inflammation and the pre workout meal will be the meal that fuels workout intensity and recovery...
 
USPLabs said:
What do you think of my idea stag.

High fiber/good fat/ protein diet and maybe a 100grams pre workout with AP and insulin(with doctore permission).

Higher fiber coming from green leafy lettuce, dark colored vegies not only is it a tremendously healthy diet that can control inflammation and the pre workout meal will be the meal that fuels workout intensity and recovery...
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The idea of a high-fiber/complex carbohydrate/fat/protein diet certainly appears attractive. The slow digestion of the fiber/complex carbohydrates would moderate any potential spikes in insulin requirement, as in a simple carbohydrates environment. The concomitant consumption of proteins and healthy fats would provide adequate macro-substrates for optimal nutrient support. In addition, considering that Type-1 Diabetes is an auto-immune disorder, this regime should be supported by additional (relevant) supplementation to optimally manage the condition.
 
strategicmove said:
The idea of a high-fiber/complex carbohydrate/fat/protein diet certainly appears attractive. The slow digestion of the fiber/complex carbohydrates would moderate any potential spikes in insulin requirement, as in a simple carbohydrates environment. The concomitant consumption of proteins and healthy fats would provide adequate macro-substrates for optimal nutrient support. In addition, considering that Type-1 Diabetes is an auto-immune disorder, this regime should be supported by additional (relevant) supplementation to optimally manage the condition.
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WIth proper fats high in good fats like olive oil, fish oil, and a small amount of saturated fats would be key to controlling inflammation and maximizing testosterone levels while keeping insulin in check.

Thinking about this I am sooo surprised that doctors do not reccomend such a protocol..

Drugs are never the cure but made to control in MOST cases but Diet is paramount to living.
 
USPLabs said:
WIth proper fats high in good fats like olive oil, fish oil, and a small amount of saturated fats would be key to controlling inflammation and maximizing testosterone levels while keeping insulin in check.

Thinking about this I am sooo surprised that doctors do not reccomend such a protocol..

Drugs are never the cure but made to control in MOST cases but Diet is paramount to living.
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Many mainstream medical practitioners lack a holistic approach to managing or treating such dysfunctional states. They are trained to focus on (synthetic) compounds that produce some small purported or actual benefit at the expense of sometimes considerable side effects. :frustrate:
 
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