An Ultradrol Log (not sponsored)

darkwing said:
Are you always taking it with food? It says on the bottle to take with meals, but I sometimes like to work out 1st thing in the AM, with no food.
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Technically you "have to" but there are some studies out there pointing to increased absorption with similar compounds when taking with a fatty meal so it is suggested. You don't have to take it before you workout, just divide the dosages up throughout the day.
 
Day 31 Wednesday 10-12-11

Weight = 225lbs (+13)

Worked arms today. Amazingly still have no sides thus far.

Barbell curls
10X60
8X70
8X80
7X90
7X100

Hammer curls
10X30
10X30
10X35
9X35
8X40

Alternating dumbell curls
10X40
10X45
9X50
7X55
4X60

Machine bicep curl
10X70
10X70
9X80
8X80

200 crunches

20 min on elliptical
 
Day 32 Thursday 10-13-11

Weight = 226lbs. (+14)

Workout was legs. I felt a great pump today. My squat was up to 415 this time. Leg extensions went to 190. Leg curls are still at 125lb. I felt my first side effect today from the ultradrol. The back pumps that you get on every other PH. I felt it today. It was not too bad but it took until the end of the fifth week at 12g to feel any sides so I would say that is very good for this product.
 
This is an AWESOME log and we really needed one like this on Ultradrol - since no one's made up a FAQ for it yet (that I can find).

You've been on the compound for awhile now TX - how's libido holding up?
 
HondaV65 said:
This is an AWESOME log and we really needed one like this on Ultradrol - since no one's made up a FAQ for it yet (that I can find).

You've been on the compound for awhile now TX - how's libido holding up?
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I agree, great log. This log helped convince me to give UD a try. I am on day 3. (Obviously nothing to report yet)
 
Beast20 said:
interesting. seems like a sick cycle. I'll put your advice down in my theories to ponder over these 2 months!
I'll be running a AH/AM for 8 weeks full dose with the first 4 weeks UD. So I guess both of us will be build to kill by February 2012
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Since you mentioned about stacking UD with AM/AH. I thought I might share what was emailed to me from the manufacturer. I was considering stacking UD the same way, so I emailed them for advice, below are the responses:

Hi Zay,

The AndroSeries contains CYP3A4 inhibitors. There's some evidence which
suggests that CYP3A4 inhibition, which really increases the
bioavailability of certain oral compounds, can also increase the potential
for methylated androgens to cause liver damage. This is because bile acids
are also metabolized via CYP3A4, and inhibiting it can retard the
conversion of toxic bile acids to more liver-friendly ones. So toxic bile
acids won't be naturally detoxified, and liver damage may eventually
result...
...This is a bit of a two-edged blade. Taking a CYP3A4 inhibitor with UDCA
or TUDCA may make those liver supports more effective, which would
actually make your cycle safer.

So, with all that said, here's what I would suggest: Take UD at a
responsible dose, take AM and AH if you like, but please take a TUDCA
product along with 'em to protect your liver.

Thanks for the interest & support!
-Jake

I then emailed back to find out what is the recommended TUDCA to take if I stack it. below is the response I got back:

As far as I know, Thermolife's "Liver Longer" is the only TUDCA product on
the market right now. It's worth the money. 500mg/day is a solid dose. I
wouldn't go as low as 250/day.

Thanks!
-Jake
 
ABNRanger said:
Since you mentioned about stacking UD with AM/AH. I thought I might share what was emailed to me from the manufacturer. I was considering stacking UD the same way, so I emailed them for advice, below are the responses:

Hi Zay,

The AndroSeries contains CYP3A4 inhibitors. There's some evidence which
suggests that CYP3A4 inhibition, which really increases the
bioavailability of certain oral compounds, can also increase the potential
for methylated androgens to cause liver damage. This is because bile acids
are also metabolized via CYP3A4, and inhibiting it can retard the
conversion of toxic bile acids to more liver-friendly ones. So toxic bile
acids won't be naturally detoxified, and liver damage may eventually
result...
...This is a bit of a two-edged blade. Taking a CYP3A4 inhibitor with UDCA
or TUDCA may make those liver supports more effective, which would
actually make your cycle safer.

So, with all that said, here's what I would suggest: Take UD at a
responsible dose, take AM and AH if you like, but please take a TUDCA
product along with 'em to protect your liver.

Thanks for the interest & support!
-Jake

I then emailed back to find out what is the recommended TUDCA to take if I stack it. below is the response I got back:

As far as I know, Thermolife's "Liver Longer" is the only TUDCA product on
the market right now. It's worth the money. 500mg/day is a solid dose. I
wouldn't go as low as 250/day.

Thanks!
-Jake
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Thank you very much for sharing this info. It's great when a product developer is this educated on their own product (as they all aren't) and willing to share this info as opposed to just suggesting high friggin doses to sell more product.
 
No problem, seems that Liver Longer is in high demand. It is out of stock on NP. I am gonna hunt for it over the internet. It cost $73 from Thermolife, and only $40 on NP.
 
ABNRanger said:
Since you mentioned about stacking UD with AM/AH. I thought I might share what was emailed to me from the manufacturer. I was considering stacking UD the same way, so I emailed them for advice, below are the responses:

Hi Zay,

The AndroSeries contains CYP3A4 inhibitors. There's some evidence which
suggests that CYP3A4 inhibition, which really increases the
bioavailability of certain oral compounds, can also increase the potential
for methylated androgens to cause liver damage. This is because bile acids
are also metabolized via CYP3A4, and inhibiting it can retard the
conversion of toxic bile acids to more liver-friendly ones. So toxic bile
acids won't be naturally detoxified, and liver damage may eventually
result...
...This is a bit of a two-edged blade. Taking a CYP3A4 inhibitor with UDCA
or TUDCA may make those liver supports more effective, which would
actually make your cycle safer.

So, with all that said, here's what I would suggest: Take UD at a
responsible dose, take AM and AH if you like, but please take a TUDCA
product along with 'em to protect your liver.

Thanks for the interest & support!
-Jake

I then emailed back to find out what is the recommended TUDCA to take if I stack it. below is the response I got back:

As far as I know, Thermolife's "Liver Longer" is the only TUDCA product on
the market right now. It's worth the money. 500mg/day is a solid dose. I
wouldn't go as low as 250/day.

Thanks!
-Jake
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Thanks very much for that info Zay! I heard from Jake that PP's Liverjuice (2 servings a day) would be safe enough for a 4 week cycle @ a responsible dosage. However I haven't specified that I'd be running it along with a full dose of AM/AH.... So, it's probably best to stack 500mg's a day of Liver Longer along with 2 servings of Liverjuice a day correct?
 
The last Day was Friday (DAY 33). My ending weight was 227lbs. (+15)

Honda-The libido was not affected during the entire 5 week cycle.
The main side I noticed was the back pumps during the final week. I started the PCT already. The nat test boost and chlomid. I added reservitol.
 
Nice log, not sure how I missed it. Minor back pumps were something I had as well towards the end of mine as well. Glad to see you had no BP issues or any other sides.
 
How was your strength? I had some increases in strength but not like I had hoped for. But the 15 lbs was good for the size increase.
 
Steady strength gains but nothing I would call exciting. Size though, yep, that's what sold me. Gained a good 10 in 3 weeks and it was in all the right places - shoulders, traps, forearms, and thighs 'popped' while the waist stayed the same. 2 week of PCT and am down only 2 lbs.

Again, good luck with the rest.
 
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thats interesting... some of the other threads ive ben reading all state insane increases in strength....

Ive noticed that with many strength increasing compounds i dont necessarily feel "stronger" but if i pick up heavier weight and just try it I can achieve the desired repetitions with ease!

Did you ever test your bounds and just fail?
 
Oh when I did my Decabolen Cyclyes and H-Drol, the strength increases were dramatic in comparison to the Ultradrol. The Ultra's size increases had the reverse effect though.
 
??? Computer just crashed and a response for another post was posted here...
 
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TXCope said:
The last Day was Friday (DAY 33). My ending weight was 227lbs. (+15)

Honda-The libido was not affected during the entire 5 week cycle.
The main side I noticed was the back pumps during the final week. I started the PCT already. The nat test boost and chlomid. I added reservitol.
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Okay man - you rocked this stuff for four weeks ... don't know if you got bloods or anything but, if not - how suppressed do you feel compared to your previous H-Drol and Deca cycles?

I'm interested to know because I'm going to be running UD in January and I'm usually a "pulser" - but this time I'm going all in - and was thinking about going for 3 weeks at 8mg. That sounds pretty damn ***** I know but I'm overly cautious on everything! LOL

EDIT: I'm really excited about this Ultradrol and all the reports I've seen on it. I'm thinking about stacking some topical Dermacrine with it as I have a bottle of the old stuff here.
 
I actually stayed on it for five weeks. I will not be doing the fifth week again. The back pumps and sides were non existent until the fifth week. Well the H-Drol cycle was crap. Not all that much size or strength gains. The Deca was the best IMO. Too bad they have banned it. The UD comes in a close second. I will say that I wish the strength gains were better, but the mass gains were great. Using the reversitol, chlomid, and Nat test boost is providing a good PCT thus far. I have only lost 2 lbs in the week of PCT and still feel the same strength.

With your size being basically same as mine, I would say 8mg would be to weak. I bet a 4 week cycle at 12mg would be perfect with no sides. I do understand caution though. I am getting bloods done this Wednesday.
 
Thanks man - I think you are right - 12mg's but ... I'll plan for 3 weeks and then make a decision to go to 4.

Well - I'm glad this all worked out great for you! Seems to be some great stuff!
 
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