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ashe555

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I'm deciding to start a cycle this Monday after years and years of research...Since it's my first cycle i'm making it simple week 1-10 every monday and thursday 200 mg of test e...And PCT 14 days last shot Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) 40/40/20/20...
While on cycle milk thistle as liver support and all the usal stuff...
So now I have a 21 G syringe with a 1" needle and a 10 ml injection is this good enough to inject test-e in the thighs???
PS:Since i got to self inject i'm kinda nervous any links will be really really helpfull
 
1" should be fine for your quad, 1.5" is the norm if you are shooting your glutes, but I think unless you are total fat ass a 1" will get through the fat just fine even on your ass. 21G is a little big but not bad. If you are only using test e you don't need the liver support, but it will not hurt anything. Injecting is easy, google steroids for dummies or dummies guide to steroids and page after page will pop up with pics and even videos on how to properly inject.
 
you say you only hav ONE pin?!?!?!...um that could pose a problem lol. I shoot quads a lot, are my fav injection site, and I use 23g 1.5in, but then again, i like to inject deep (wow that sounded gay...) in my quad.
 
I certainly hope you have more than 1 pin man, you may have miss typed... but if you didn't, you need to buy more. Personally, I use a 23g, 21 is a bit big but still usable. When I did my first cycle I just rotated between right and left glute and was totally fine. Good luck on your cycle bro.
 
I'm deciding to start a cycle this Monday after years and years of research...Since it's my first cycle i'm making it simple week 1-10 every monday and thursday 200 mg of test e...And PCT 14 days last shot Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) 40/40/20/20...
While on cycle milk thistle as liver support and all the usal stuff...
So now I have a 21 G syringe with a 1" needle and a 10 ml injection is this good enough to inject test-e in the thighs???
PS:Since i got to self inject i'm kinda nervous any links will be really really helpfull


why is your test E dose so low?

I hope you do know that test E's attachment is quite "heavy."

I believe out of 100mg, a good 30-40mg is just the ester attachment. With that said, your getting like HRT dose, you'll be shut down and I don't think you'll be very happy with your results. Thats just my two cents though.

also, what purpose does the milk thistle serve in this cycle agian? Are you kick starting?
 
I believe out of 100mg, a good 30-40mg is just the ester attachment. With that said, your getting like HRT dose, you'll be shut down and I don't think you'll be very happy with your results. Thats just my two cents though.
400mg/week HRT dose? I dont think so.

400mg/wk is fine if that is what you want to do.

What concentration is your test e?(mg/ml)

Do you only have 1 10ml vial?
 
you say you only hav ONE pin?!?!?!...um that could pose a problem lol. I shoot quads a lot, are my fav injection site, and I use 23g 1.5in, but then again, i like to inject deep (wow that sounded gay...) in my quad.
I certainly hope you have more than 1 pin man, you may have miss typed... but if you didn't, you need to buy more. Personally, I use a 23g, 21 is a bit big but still usable. When I did my first cycle I just rotated between right and left glute and was totally fine. Good luck on your cycle bro.

lol...I certainly have more than 1 pin....Does a bigger pin hurt more than a smaller pin ???
 
lol...I certainly have more than 1 pin....Does a bigger pin hurt more than a smaller pin ???

I think big pins may allow the rubber to fall into the needle itself. Should be a problem if you replace it. Smaller pins (25g) might take forever to inject. That's why most people advocate for 22-23g as it's somewhere near the middle.
 
lol...I certainly have more than 1 pin....Does a bigger pin hurt more than a smaller pin ???
Yes it will hurt more because it is a larger needle so you are damaging more muscle. Don't worry about it, a 21G is a little large, but not much, it is fine.
And here is an post from Cy Wilson that will help you out with injections.

"Now, the injectable steroids are meant to be delivered intramuscularly, meaning, that you're going to have to inject relatively deep into the muscle. The "standard" needle is 22 gauge, 1.5 inch. This is used for injection into the buttocks. You can also use a smaller needle, like a 25 gauge, one inch, but it will take longer to inject and there's a chance you may not inject into the muscle fibers, depending on how much fat is on your ass. Generally though, most guys can get away with using a one inch needle. Also, you should take into account that although it will inject a lot faster, a larger gauge like 20 or below, will cause more pain and will damage more tissue.

The second most common injection site is the thigh. With this, you should only need a one inch needle. You can also inject into the shoulder as well as other places, but I'd prefer if you stuck with these two for now.

Okay, so now the question is, "Where exactly should you inject?" Well, if you're going to inject into the buttocks, you'll need to pick a cheek and then imagine a horizontal line beginning at the crack of your butt and extending outwards. Next, imagine a vertical line right down the middle of the first line. So now your butt cheek should be divided into four squares. The place to inject is in the upper most corner on the outermost section, i.e. the top right square.

For the thigh, a quick way to do it is to look at your hip and knee, and then imagine a line in between the two. This and a little bit lower are the areas you can inject. Make sure this is on the outside of your thigh!

Okay, so now you're ready. First thing? Wash your hands. Now find the spot, take a cotton swab and put some rubbing alcohol on it. Swab the area that you'll inject, then swab the rubber top of the vial. Grab the syringe and push it in at a 90° angle. (Some say to hold the needle like you're about the throw a dart.) Once the needle is fully submerged, pull back on the plunger just slightly and look to see if any blood enters. If it does, pull out and find a new place, as you've entered a vein and you don't want to inject into a vein.

If no blood appears, begin to push the plunger. Remember, the slower you push, the less pain you'll feel. Once the liquid is gone, pull the syringe directly out and apply a cotton swab to the site. Hold tightly for about 30 seconds and then either tape it on or put a bandage on it. Pull your pants back up; you're done!



Discard the syringe in a safe place and use a new one for the next injection. Never use the same needle twice (it'll be dull, plus you'll risk infection by reusing it) and, of course, never share a needle with anyone, especially if your training partner just happens to be a Haitian hemophiliac homosexual intravenous drug user."
 
I think big pins may allow the rubber to fall into the needle itself. Should be a problem if you replace it. Smaller pins (25g) might take forever to inject. That's why most people advocate for 22-23g as it's somewhere near the middle.

He has amp's.... No problems with the rubber, but you should still use a different pin to inject.... I'm using a 25g pin now to inject, and yes it does take a minute or two to inject.
 
He has amp's.... No problems with the rubber, but you should still use a different pin to inject.... I'm using a 25g pin now to inject, and yes it does take a minute or two to inject.
23g I always found was perfect, for drawing and injecting.
 
I'm deciding to start a cycle this Monday after years and years of research...Since it's my first cycle i'm making it simple week 1-10 every monday and thursday 200 mg of test e...And PCT 14 days last shot Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) 40/40/20/20...
While on cycle milk thistle as liver support and all the usal stuff...
So now I have a 21 G syringe with a 1" needle and a 10 ml injection is this good enough to inject test-e in the thighs???
PS:Since i got to self inject i'm kinda nervous any links will be really really helpfull
25g 1inch pin for delts, back, etc for my quads and glutes I use a 23g 1 inch
 
Would you pull up with a 23g pin, out of an amp and also use it to pin?
That's my problem, I have 20-23g pins and 20-25g pins.
Use a 20-21guage to draw from vial and then use a 25g pin for smaller mscles and 23g for larger groups
 
Yes it will hurt more because it is a larger needle so you are damaging more muscle. Don't worry about it, a 21G is a little large, but not much, it is fine.
And here is an post from Cy Wilson that will help you out with injections.

"Now, the injectable steroids are meant to be delivered intramuscularly, meaning, that you're going to have to inject relatively deep into the muscle. The "standard" needle is 22 gauge, 1.5 inch. This is used for injection into the buttocks. You can also use a smaller needle, like a 25 gauge, one inch, but it will take longer to inject and there's a chance you may not inject into the muscle fibers, depending on how much fat is on your ass. Generally though, most guys can get away with using a one inch needle. Also, you should take into account that although it will inject a lot faster, a larger gauge like 20 or below, will cause more pain and will damage more tissue.

The second most common injection site is the thigh. With this, you should only need a one inch needle. You can also inject into the shoulder as well as other places, but I'd prefer if you stuck with these two for now.

Okay, so now the question is, "Where exactly should you inject?" Well, if you're going to inject into the buttocks, you'll need to pick a cheek and then imagine a horizontal line beginning at the crack of your butt and extending outwards. Next, imagine a vertical line right down the middle of the first line. So now your butt cheek should be divided into four squares. The place to inject is in the upper most corner on the outermost section, i.e. the top right square.

For the thigh, a quick way to do it is to look at your hip and knee, and then imagine a line in between the two. This and a little bit lower are the areas you can inject. Make sure this is on the outside of your thigh!

Okay, so now you're ready. First thing? Wash your hands. Now find the spot, take a cotton swab and put some rubbing alcohol on it. Swab the area that you'll inject, then swab the rubber top of the vial. Grab the syringe and push it in at a 90° angle. (Some say to hold the needle like you're about the throw a dart.) Once the needle is fully submerged, pull back on the plunger just slightly and look to see if any blood enters. If it does, pull out and find a new place, as you've entered a vein and you don't want to inject into a vein.

If no blood appears, begin to push the plunger. Remember, the slower you push, the less pain you'll feel. Once the liquid is gone, pull the syringe directly out and apply a cotton swab to the site. Hold tightly for about 30 seconds and then either tape it on or put a bandage on it. Pull your pants back up; you're done!



Discard the syringe in a safe place and use a new one for the next injection. Never use the same needle twice (it'll be dull, plus you'll risk infection by reusing it) and, of course, never share a needle with anyone, especially if your training partner just happens to be a Haitian hemophiliac homosexual intravenous drug user."

Thanks a lot...it was of gr8 help...i'm planning to draw from the amp with a 20G(1.5") needle and inject with a 23(1")needle....
 
I dont car what anyone else tells you for an experianced lifter 400mgs is a light does I would proably go 250 or 300 twice a week your gains would be a lot better and thats still a relativly light dose I live in the country and had to learn to pin by myself it is a little scary at first but it isnt **** especially only twice a week you only need to use your hip t5he only reason people rotate is because the shoot every day or more I wouldnt go less tham 500 I think its a wast considering youre going to have to have all your pct and everythong anyways
 
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