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Alphamine - US vs. INTL version

Cheranine said:
Well one of the earlier posts stated the only difference was the SA2 the had been removed so took a punt on it. Ive looked up the glucuronoblahblah and bacopa ingredients which do sound decent, but still :/ anyways i got a good smooth stimulant effect and felt pretty good so its not all bad i guess.
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The International version is the one you read about... The Aus version is very different... It's by no means the fault of PES... It's the ridiculous laws in Aus...
 
It isn't very complicated. Allow me to explain.

Australia have very different laws.

- International version (EU/UK) contains no yohimbe (prohibited my the MHRA) and heightened doses of other ingredients to compensate. Other than that it is exactly the same as the US version.
- Australian version has had to have a few changes past this.
 
no it's not complicated, I just didn't do the research required to realize that even though I was willing to compromise on one ingredient missing, turns out there were a few more.

I'll run it anyway because as mentioned Ive enjoyed the servings I've had so far and PES have a great rep. Also, I am happy with the added ingredients after reading up on them.
 
US Alphamine was great. I was lucky enough to get it through once, haven't tried again. Don't think I would bother with Aus version. I really wanted to try Enhanced but it got seized. *******s. Don't understand why yohimbe is banned, ridiclulous law. Has anyone had any issues getting anabeta elite through? I ordered some the other day and am waiting delivery.
 
bdcc said:
It isn't very complicated. Allow me to explain. Australia have very different laws. - International version (EU/UK) contains no yohimbe (prohibited my the MHRA) and heightened doses of other ingredients to compensate. Other than that it is exactly the same as the US version. - Australian version has had to have a few changes past this.
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Which version do you use? I'm aware of your location but interested on the version you use/used.
 
Alasel said:
Which version do you use? I'm aware of your location but interested on the version you use/used.
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I use the international version. Always have had success with it.
 
so is there really no way of getting the US version WITHIN Europe?

I'm asking because German customs are f*****g awful! They've blocked anything I ordered from the States so far, that's why I won't be doing that again.
 
Iain1668 said:
There was no need to have the Aus one watered down so much.

I expect nothing less from flush though.
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did you notice anything towards a fat-burning effect with the international version? I'm asking because I actually need no stimulants, as 1000mg caffeine a day should already do the trick, and I'm just searching for enhanced fat-burning
 
MaXopA said:
did you notice anything towards a fat-burning effect with the international version? I'm asking because I actually need no stimulants, as 1000mg caffeine a day should already do the trick, and I'm just searching for enhanced fat-burning
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Absolutely not. No human could attribute any fat loss to the Australian version. It's snake oil and anyone who says it's not is outright lying.
 
MaXopA said:
did you notice anything towards a fat-burning effect with the international version? I'm asking because I actually need no stimulants, as 1000mg caffeine a day should already do the trick, and I'm just searching for enhanced fat-burning
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Are you in Australia? The International version & the Australian version are not the same... I looked up the ingredients individually & from what I can tell, the Australian version is not a thermo powder... It's basically an overpriced, but tasty, energy drink powder... Half the servings for double the price of the US version...
 
BLaQz said:
Are you in Australia? The International version & the Australian version are not the same... I looked up the ingredients individually & from what I can tell, the Australian version is not a thermo powder... It's basically an overpriced, but tasty, energy drink powder... Half the servings for double the price of the US version...
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oh well, thanks for the info mate. So the EU-version is not the weakest, it could have been even worse lol
 
BLaQz said:
The EU version is great... They only removed the Yohimbine...
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yeah don't get me wrong, Alphamine is certainly a good product even without that ingredient, but I need a fat-burning supp which synergizes with caffeine, which is something yohimbine brings along.
 
International/UK Alphamine is definitely for real.

Get AT2 (new formula) if you want Yohimbine. Some sneaky UK retailers have that in stock :)
 
bdybldnaam said:
International/UK Alphamine is definitely for real.

Get AT2 (new formula) if you want Yohimbine. Some sneaky UK retailers have that in stock :)
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yeah man, that's what I did this morning. Two tubs AT2 on their to way to Deutschland lol Invalid Link Removed
 
Slight thread sidetrack, but does anyone know when the new flavour of Alphamine (cherry limeade) will be available in the UK?
 
Best bet is probably to jump on the insider, when it launches.

These UK retailers are taken "forever" to get the new products.

But is it possible to get US Alphamine through customs in UK, if you get on the insider?
 
We obviously cannot comment on customs policy regarding prohibited ingredients.

To be safe, I always recommend requesting it at our distributor immediately. If a few people request something they tend to place an order straight away rather than a few weeks after it's release.
 
Hello forum members.

I'm a newbie here and would like to share my own experience with PES Alphamine, taking into account that it is purely subjective. I am in Australia and bought the US version online. Because I was eager to try the product, I was delighted to have found it at my gym in Australia. I had no idea that the formula was different. I bought the Pine Orange flavor in Australia and after trying two small scoops, I found the flavor sickening, I felt jittery and felt a bit of a crash later. I decided that this product was not for me.

However, I received the bottle I ordered from the US today. The first thing I noticed was that the Australian version says 'powerful redefining powder' on the front, while the US version says 'powerful thermogenic powder'. I then noticed a difference in ingredients. This was the only reason that I decided to try it. I took two small scoops with 500ml of water. Firstly, the flavor was wonderful (raspberry lemonade) and did not make me feel sickly. Secondly, I do not feel jittery at all and the energy and mood feels uplifting and smooth.

Now, it could be the difference of the flavor itself that took away my nauseous feelings, but I do not know how to explain the phenomenal difference in elevation of mood minus the horrid jittery feeling I had with the Australian version.

Here is a list of the Australian ingredients as seen at the back of the product (forgive me if this has already been mentioned as I have only read about 10 posts in here):

Per serve: Caffiene 320 mg Taurine 2000 mg

Ingredients: Taurine, Citric Acid, L-Tyrosine, Flavours, Anti-caking agent (551), Caffeine, Sweetners (955, 950), Higenamine Hydrochloride, Citrus aurantium Extract, N-Methyl-Tyramine, Selaginella tamariscina Extract (AmentoMAX tm), Lindera aggregata extract (Boldine), Auraptene, Cirsium oligophyllum Extract, Colour (102, 110, 129)

Phew!!!! I have no idea as to what several of these ingredients are, but I did notice the Australian version appears to have more caffeine in it. I say just from my own personal experience, the US version 'feels' smoother.

Added: I just remembered why I also felt put off the Australian version: my heart was pounding! I took exactly the same amount with the US version, no pounding heart.
 
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Antares9ful said:
Hello forum members.

I'm a newbie here and would like to share my own experience with PES Alphamine, taking into account that it is purely subjective. I am in Australia and bought the US version online. Because I was eager to try the product, I was delighted to have found it at my gym in Australia. I had no idea that the formula was different. I bought the Pine Orange flavor in Australia and after trying two small scoops, I found the flavor sickening, I felt jittery and felt a bit of a crash later. I decided that this product was not for me.

However, I received the bottle I ordered from the US today. The first thing I noticed was that the Australian version says 'powerful redefining powder' on the front, while the US version says 'powerful thermogenic powder'. I then noticed a difference in ingredients. This was the only reason that I decided to try it. I took two small scoops with 500ml of water. Firstly, the flavor was wonderful (raspberry lemonade) and did not make me feel sickly. Secondly, I do not feel jittery at all and the energy and mood feels uplifting and smooth.

Now, it could be the difference of the flavor itself that took away my nauseous feelings, but I do not know how to explain the phenomenal difference in elevation of mood minus the horrid jittery feeling I had with the Australian version.

Here is a list of the Australian ingredients as seen at the back of the product (forgive me if this has already been mentioned as I have only read about 10 posts in here):

Per serve: Caffiene 320 mg Taurine 2000 mg

Ingredients: Taurine, Citric Acid, L-Tyrosine, Flavours, Anti-caking agent (551), Caffeine, Sweetners (955, 950), Higenamine Hydrochloride, Citrus aurantium Extract, N-Methyl-Tyramine, Selaginella tamariscina Extract (AmentoMAX tm), Lindera aggregata extract (Boldine), Auraptene, Cirsium oligophyllum Extract, Colour (102, 110, 129)

Phew!!!! I have no idea as to what several of these ingredients are, but I did notice the Australian version appears to have more caffeine in it. I say just from my own personal experience, the US version 'feels' smoother.

Added: I just remembered why I also felt put off the Australian version: my heart was pounding! I took exactly the same amount with the US version, no pounding heart.
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The US version has 125mg of caffeine per scoop, higenamine and Yohimbine as the other stimulants. I have yet to try the Advanced AUS version, but I am in love with the feelz from US alphamine.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
The US version has 125mg of caffeine per scoop, higenamine and Yohimbine as the other stimulants. I have yet to try the Advanced AUS version, but I am in love with the feelz from US alphamine.
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the Advanced version is good, but yes the US version still is better. nothing simply can replace Yohimbie feels :( i think the only problem with the advanced version is the NMT, i would legit take that chit out i know steve hines would get butt hurt but screw him. and i would replace it with DMBA ;) hehe (pouchong tea) *cough* *cough* or maybe Terminalia arjuna :D

Note the advanced dose have a terrible crash like Antares9ful said to.


and also Erase pro powder should drop DAA for T Alatus Hnnnnnnnnnnng
 
Auslifter said:
the Advanced version is good, but yes the US version still is better. nothing simply can replace Yohimbie feels :( i think the only problem with the advanced version is the NMT, i would legit take that chit out i know steve hines would get butt hurt but screw him. and i would replace it with DMBA ;) hehe (pouchong tea) *cough* *cough* or maybe Terminalia arjuna :D

Note the advanced dose have a terrible crash like Antares9ful said to.

and also Erase pro powder should drop DAA for T Alatus Hnnnnnnnnnnng
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I bet trying to flavour T Alatus, will give the poor person many premature grey hairs.
 
Final verdict: training after taking it felt delightful. No crashes. The US version works better for me (than the Australian one)
 
Hyperfluxe said:
For people who have tried both, did you notice the INTL version being inferior in any way due to the removal of the yohimbine? I know that the INTL version tries to make up for it by adding extra amounts of some ingredients, but I'm not convinced that this would replace the SA-2. I've done some research on a few forums and the only people who say that they are almost the same and can't notice the difference are PES reps. I'd like some opinions from non-reps if possible please. Thanks!
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I used both versions, living in Europe has only recently been able to find the USA version with the original Yohmbina is much higher ...
 
Three new flavors being released as I'm sure everyone noticed, so be on that insider list.

Pescience.com/insider
 
So I know this is older but the international alphamine link is dead. I wanted to try the UK version. Is it up anywhere else?
 
Anyone?
 
No but I might. Didn't want to pay for the shipping if I didn't have to. I was wondering if the link got moved but didn't see anything on the website anymore.
 
Yes, the INTL version was removed from our website.

You can get it from UK stockists or send me an email. :)

[email protected]
 
UK/Europe guys:

One of our distributors has asked about getting EU versions of the new flavours.

If we make these there is a minimum which has to be made as it is a separate batch.

So, they are assessing demand to see if it is viable.

If you want them to order some now is the time to request it from them. :)
 
Pm coming

Edit- or not. They're full ;)
 
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