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Alpha-T2 and OEP Question

What are you running and what are your goals?
 
im guessing he wants to cut, i think yes for t2 but idk oep since you know the whole bp thing on cycle
what ph u plan on using?
 
I assume he wants to cut as well but I want to know if his goal is obtainable with the PH he is using without adding anything else. :)
 
bdcc said:
I assume he wants to cut as well but I want to know if his goal is obtainable with the PH he is using without adding anything else. :)
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gotcha, didnt mean to question ur intelligence
 
Oh lol. Genuinely no offence taken, it was just double checking whether he was cutting or recomping. :)
 
Running m drol to epistane bridge. Wanted to recomp/bulk, but always gain a lot of stomach fat. I ran OEP with shift once before off cycle with success, have half a bottle left over. I am a bit of a caffine addict, take about 600mg a day.
 
Id tread lightly with stacking stimulants on other products known to increase blood pressure.

Id either A) Take Shift, or B) Take Alpha-T2 and monitor blood pressure very carefully throughout the cycle (as you should be doing anyway). Higenamine in the new Alpha-T2 is even found to lower blood pressure in a few studies if i recall correctly. This is however, not an excuse to stack it with your PH cycles. Proper safety guidelines should always be followed.
 
Anyone know if the "get up and go stack" comes with the new or old versio of Alpha T2? Looks like it's the new. I see the T2 contains the same ingrediant as Shift. Would adding Shift to the T2 just be overkill?
 
bklaves said:
Anyone know if the "get up and go stack" comes with the new or old versio of Alpha T2? Looks like it's the new. I see the T2 contains the same ingrediant as Shift. Would adding Shift to the T2 just be overkill?
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That stack will come with the new AT2. I would probably pick one or the other.

For mild thermogenesis use shift, for overall better fat burning use AT2.
 
bklaves said:
I have heard not to use fatburners during pct. Any truth to that?
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Absolutely. You want to be eating in a surplus in PCT to avoid losing any gains made, taking a fatburner will only make this more difficult.
 
No problem
 
I'm currently on a recomp right now, getting ready for a PH cycle in two months. Been taking fatburners on empty stomach for HIIT Cardio in the morning 5 times a week, and using Lipotrophin-PM before bedtime. All seems to be working out as planned.

However I've been thinking of adding PES in the routine. Would you advice using PES while using Stimulant fatburners in the AM and Nighttime fatburners like I am using? in the AM I use either Oxy Elite, RX6 or LS-LX7 (every day something different).

Let me know if PES with stack well ''with'' a stimulant or would be better to use it ''instead'' of a stimulant.

Either way I'll stop with everything 3 weeks before I start my PH cycle. Any help would be much appreciated! thanks
 
Which PES products?

- Shift is a non stimulant thyroidal fat burner which you can use at any time of the day. It's non stimulating properties make it very easy to stack with most products
- Alpha-T2 is the same ingredient in the same dosage with mild stimulants added aimed at targeting abdominal fat
- AnaBeta is a muscle building product with the convenient side effect of fat loss in a lot of users. It is a natural product and can be stacked with just about anything as it is unique and therefore has no overlap with most products.
- Erase is an anti estrogen product which acts as a diuretic and therefore appearance wise makes people look drier and harder.
 
bdcc said:
Which PES products?

- Shift is a non stimulant thyroidal fat burner which you can use at any time of the day. It's non stimulating properties make it very easy to stack with most products
- Alpha-T2 is the same ingredient in the same dosage with mild stimulants added aimed at targeting abdominal fat
- AnaBeta is a muscle building product with the convenient side effect of fat loss in a lot of users. It is a natural product and can be stacked with just about anything as it is unique and therefore has no overlap with most products.
- Erase is an anti estrogen product which acts as a diuretic and therefore appearance wise makes people look drier and harder.
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lol, can't believe I didn't mention that! I really do need a vacation!!!! Alpha-T2
 
AT2 and OEP are a very popular stack. OEP is the stronger stimulant with AT2 adding the thyroidal element. AT2 is technically a stimulant but it is very mild, most people do not feel much in the way of stimulant properties because it is designed for other reasons, not to make you feel like you are on crack. :)
 
bdcc said:
AT2 and OEP are a very popular stack. OEP is the stronger stimulant with AT2 adding the thyroidal element. AT2 is technically a stimulant but it is very mild, most people do not feel much in the way of stimulant properties because it is designed for other reasons, not to make you feel like you are on crack. :)
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Gotcha. Can I also stack it with BPi's RX6 and Isatori's MX-LS7? And if so, when should be the best time during the day to take AT2? and how many servings? I take my stimulants as soon as I wake up, about an hour before cardio on empty stomach
 
I am on my phone, can you post the ingredients of each please and I will advise.
 
RX6:
Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 45

Amount Per Serving:
Niacin 20mg 100

6-In-1 Fat Burning Blend (Proprietary) 238mg:
Thiamine Disulfide, 1,3 Diimethylamylamine, Amla (10:1 Extract), Synephrine, MethylSynephrine, Yohimbine Hcl.

MethylCore Burning Blend (Proprietary) 360mg
Caffeine Anhydrous (300mg), Cassia Nomame, Ginseng (80% Ginsenosides), Dandelion (Root), Green Tea (45% EGCG), Uva Ursi (99% Arbutin), Niacin.

Other Ingredients:
Gelatin, Magnesium Stearate, FD&C #40, Titanium Dioxide


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[TD="class: seq_span label_heading_l"]MX-LS7:
Amount Per Serving[/TD]
[TD="class: seq_span label_heading_r, colspan: 2"]% DV[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_divider narrow, colspan: 3"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing"]Ls7 Core Complex™[/TD]
[TD="class: seq_span label_qty"]842.5mg[/TD]
[TD="class: seq_span label_dv"]*[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: line_above seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Yerba Mate Leaf Powder (Llex Paraguariensis)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Green Tea Extract (45% EGCG, 90% Polyphenols)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]7-Keto™ (3-Acetyl-7-Oxo-Dehydroepiandrosterone)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Natural Caffeine[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Caffeine Anhydrous[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Advantra Z® (Supplying Citrus Aurantium Extract[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing line_indent, colspan: 3"][10% Para-Synephrine Alkaloids], N-Methyltyramine, Hordenine,[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing line_indent, colspan: 3"]Octopamine, & Tyramine)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Bioperine® (Piper Nigrum) (Fruit)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_divider narrow, colspan: 3"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing"]T3/camp Activator Blend™[/TD]
[TD="class: seq_span label_qty"]385.1mg[/TD]
[TD="class: seq_span label_dv"]*[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: line_above seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]L-Tyrosine[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Guggulipid (Containing 2.5% Gugglesterones)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Evodia Rutaecarpa Extract (Standardized For 10% Evodiamine)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Clary Sage Powder[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]ForsLean® Coleus Forskohlii (Standardized For 10% Forskohlin)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_divider narrow, colspan: 3"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing"]Congnition Complex™[/TD]
[TD="class: seq_span label_qty"]55.1mg[/TD]
[TD="class: seq_span label_dv"]*[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: line_above seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Xanthinol Nicotinate[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Bacopin® (Standardized For A Minimum Of 20% Bacosides A & B)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: seq_span label_ing, colspan: 3"]Vinpocetine


[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
It is a proprietary blend and therefore doesn't list the ingredients.

You have another source of 1,3 and another variation of yohimbine (AT2 contains superior rauwolscine). There is also controversy on mixing tyrosine and yohimbine. You should be careful mixing potent sources of stimulants, especially when you don't know the quantities of what is in them.
 
So better to just hold these two bottles for later and run them solo? I got about maybe 10-12 servings left in both, and would want to finish them before they expire. I may have about 10 servings left of Oxy as well.

If you say just stick with stacking the Oxy with AT2, I'll do just that sir. I'll probably finish the other 2 after my PH cycle then
 
I would do that and save the others. That is my personal approach, I am not keen on stacking stimulants with proprietary blends.
 
Best of luck, let us know how you get on!

Ben
 
Will do Ben! I'll be picking it up Friday, so I'll probably start with it on Saturday. How should I stack it? Take 2 servings with the Oxy on empty stomach, then cardio, then eat, and then the the last serving in the late afternoon? or how would you recommend it?
 
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  • 2 OxyElite Pro + 1 Alpha-T2 in the morning, 30 mins before breakfast on an empty stomach
  • 2 Alpha-T2 + 1 OxyElite Pro on an empty stomach 6-8 hours later
I would stick with this. :)
 
that's pretty heavy! I usually benefit greatly from only one dose of OEP. I'll take the AT2 in the morning and 2 about 7 hours later then. I'll keep you updated how it works Ben thanks!
 
I've take. Rx6 and it works fantastic, at first it gave me a bit of a jolt, but my body got used to it and I boosted my endurance, however I recently switched to OEP it gives me about he same amount of energy a bit less but the bigger downside it's killed my libido it's just gone down the drain with OEP so I'm cutting it.
 
Santee said:
I've take. Rx6 and it works fantastic, at first it gave me a bit of a jolt, but my body got used to it and I boosted my endurance, however I recently switched to OEP it gives me about he same amount of energy a bit less but the bigger downside it's killed my libido it's just gone down the drain with OEP so I'm cutting it.
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prob the 1,3.... does it too me too.

I think the AT2+OEP stack is great for the desired effects though. cant beat it.

Not everyone will be able to handle it but I was running both 2 pills 2x a day for 2 bottles each.... Serious results...
 
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