Alpha One vs Msten

maxmuscle23

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Hey guys. Want to know whats best for strength gains, Msten or Alpha one? MSten would be at 20mg for 30 days, Alpha one at 50 for 30 and kick it up to 75 if I feel like I could.

Also what are the bad side effects everyone talks about? I can deal with the lethargy, but what are the other bad sides?
 
I prefer Msten for strength and leaner gains. Alpha for mass. Both are pretty toxic but Alpha probably a little more. Most common sides are liver toxicity, lethargy, and back pumps for both. Too high on the Alpha IMO. Msten is fine in 20-30 range. Alpha should be 30-40 range.
 
Haven't either solo but I did msten + dmz twice and msten + alpha once I like them together if I were to run them again I would say msten at 12mg and alpha at 20mg for 6 weeks would be optimal. But to answer your question alpha.
 
Not too much bloat since I used an AI. I mean idk whichever of the 3 you choose is gonna be a great cycle as long as they are not bunk my only reccomendation is don't overdue the dosage too early and only run a 4 weeker because your apatite is shot. Aim for a moderate dosage and 6 weeks. If doing the dmz combo... since alpha usually comes in 20mg caps and dmz usually 15mg I would go 4 weeks at 15/20 then the last 3 weeks bump up the dmz to 30. With my last cycle msten at 20 and alpha at 20 I could only make it 36 days before I called it quits just fyi.
 
I was really focusing on not going too heavy so I didn't up most lift by much just added slower more focused contractions. But I did test my bench out note I hadn't benched in a year and a half only used dumbells I would usually do 90lb for 4x8 with dumbells and by the end of my cycle I could bench 275×7

Edit: I remeber now I hoped on the bench for the first time week 2 of cycle and could bench 225×10
 
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