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Danb2285

Danb2285

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Getting ready to start my 1st cycle. I can't decide between tren or deca? Or ever maybe SD. Leaning towards tren right now because I've heard deca bloats you really bad. And the sudes are about the same as deca. I plan on stacking with 500 mg of test e. 250mg twice a week. I was also thinking of just using the test for my first cycle. I guess I should add I'm 26 220 and about 19% bf. I'm looking to cut down to about 13-15% during a 10 week cycle. Any input or advice would be
 
Just use the test alone and see how your body reacts to it. Do not run any SD on your first cycle if you do plan to run something else alongside it, the sides can be really harsh it's not a beginner anabolic. Also I've heard of many people getting great results off just test e.

I'm on my first cycle right now, running Helladrol solo and getting awesome results, up ~10lbs with no increase in body fat and Hdrol is a lot weaker than injectable test.
 
Thanks for the input.? Might be a dumb question but what's the major difference in your guys opinion between test e and c?
 
Besides the bloating. And if I'm cutting that much BF should i try prop instead?
 
Definitely wouldn't use deca if you're trying to get your body fat down, a test only cycle to see how you react is how i think everyone should start out, i just posted a bit of advice in another thread about first test cycle, i can't post links so go to the old school hormone section and go to the which test thread don't really want to re type the same thing, so give that a read hcg is pretty important on cycle as you'll read, and i think you could get away with using test e if you want to run an anti estrogen all the way through to keep away the water weight, you could also try adding in some clen if you're really looking to drop some bf, and when you're ready to start you're next cycle if you want to continue hardening up but still gaining easy, I'd recommend eq and test
 
Thanks for the reply! I Actualy read the other post you wrote and commented on it before I saw you wrote on mine. Again thanks! I'm sure u guys get tired of all us 'newbies' questions. Just don't want to do anything too harsh.
 
haha its all good man glad to help, let me know how you are getting on if you have any problems I'll give any advice i can, i'm going nuts now waiting to finish out my pct and get back cycle
 
Should I take anything ore cycle? And I'll be using clomid for pct. i know to start pct 2 weeks after last pin but not sure what dose and for how long.
 
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i have never taken a anabolic before and i was was recently given 2 weeks worth of dbol 50mg a day and 100 pills of anavar at 25mg

i was wondering how i should cycle/take this and if theres anything i should add

also anything to add so i will not experience and loss of libido . please help
 
@Danb i dunno if you mean take anything to kick start your cycle or cycle support to be taken before? all i would suggest is to try the test only cycle so you know what kind of side effects you get from test and next cycle if you want to kick start your gains try anadrol 50-100mg ed for the first 4 weeks and if you meant what to take before cycle i would say nothing just spend the 2 weeks prior making sure your training, diet and sleep are all as perfect as you can make them so you can get the best possible results and pct I would recommend having some tamoxifen on hand too incase you get high levels of estrogen while your natural test is rebounding take the clomid for 4 weeks - 2 ed 1st week 1 ed 2nd week 1 eod 3rd week 1 e3d 4th week and with tamoxifen 4 weeks 1 eod 1st + 2nd week 1/2 eod 3rd week and 1/2 e3d 4th week then stop everything and focus on trying to maintain your gains you can maybe try something like animal stack to keep your training intensity up off cycle and curious are you going to use hcg on cycle?
 
I meant before to kick start my cycle. And yes I plan on using HCG throughout my whole cycle. The clomid won't be enough to help with high estrogen levels?
 
@smallguy I wouldn't really see much point in 2 weeks worth of dbol to get worthwhile results you want to be running it 4-6 weeks as a kick start to a test cycle, so i dunno if you can try get some injectable test? i usually would recommend using just test as a first cycle because it gives nice gains and has relatively low side effects, and i have never run anavar myself but from what i've heard its not very effective for putting on alot of mass works better for tightening up, i think you should do as much research as you can before going on aas, read through the threads on this site about first cycles and think about trying test first and make sure you have proper post cycle therapy lined up and obviously that your training, nutrition and sleep is all perfect no point in taking anything unless you are getting all those right first
 
thank you very much, but should i run the var with test? or post test cycle? also should i take anti E's during or after a test cycle?
 
@Dan as I said I think it much better to just do test alone on your first cycle just to gauge side effects but the sides of test are pretty so it should be fine to do a little kick start if you really want, and at the end of the day its up to you and if it was me kick starting my first cycle with an oral I'd go with with anadrol 50mg ed for the first 4 weeks but if you do that make sure you take a complex milk thistle liver support supplement, good you're doing hcg it will make it a much more pleasant first cycle horrible feeling when you get shriveled nuts, yeah clomid is okay for keeping the estrogen down but its more for getting the testes producing proper levels of sperm again and as result test, but tamoxifen in my experience is much better for keeping estrogen at the right levels its not a must but it will make for a better pct and quicker recovery and you'll keep more gains.
 
@smallguy - No problem just wanna make sure people make educated choices with aas and make good gains, you could run a small amount of var when you finish your test cycle to bridge cycles because it is the mildest oral aas not very liver toxic if you plan on going back on, for example starting after you finish pct, a pyramid dose protocol of 25mg ed for the 1st week, 50mg 2-3weeks 75mg 4-5weeks 50mg 6th week 25mg 7th week so per week = 7-14-14-21-21-14-7 = 98(2 tabs spare) then take anything from 1-3 weeks off from aas completely and maybe go back on test if you read my first repy to dan you'll be able to find a post i made on another thread about anti E and pct also more info throughout this thread, sorry don't want to retype the same thing haha what is are your training and diet like? I'm a personal trainer by trade so i can throw some advice in those areas too
 
@smallguy - No problem just wanna make sure people make educated choices with aas and make good gains, you could run a small amount of var when you finish your test cycle to bridge cycles because it is the mildest oral aas not very liver toxic if you plan on going back on, for example starting after you finish pct, a pyramid dose protocol of 25mg ed for the 1st week, 50mg 2-3weeks 75mg 4-5weeks 50mg 6th week 25mg 7th week so per week = 7-14-14-21-21-14-7 = 98(2 tabs spare) then take anything from 1-3 weeks off from aas completely and maybe go back on test if you read my first repy to dan you'll be able to find a post i made on another thread about anti E and pct also more info throughout this thread, sorry don't want to retype the same thing haha what is are your training and diet like? I'm a personal trainer by trade so i can throw some advice in those areas too
 
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