All You need to Know about PCT!!!!

DRSTRISMADAST said:
Muchos gracias amigo... No problem... Send me a friend request over at EF (Johnnyboy3689282), Im not bashing anyone, just wanna help bro... Im new school modern medicine... And no, you cant learn everything from a text book, because i honestly feel im smart when it comes to AAS then most DOCS. There isnt a course on PCT in Med school, they just have protocols... Ive learned my knowledge from surfing the BB websites since i was 16, living with a father who abused steroids and has tryed everything in the book, friends included, and given himself the 2 heart attacks before 40 and 2 other major opps. Ive learned from experience and reseach research research... Sorry if i was coming off as an ******* manbeast.... Im really a good dude...
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hmm, you seem to have quite a bit of karma over there, elite has a different group of people, there are a lot of unknowledgable people over there, i dont have time to read through your post, but if you've been there 5 years, and never approached by needto, then you must be doing something wrong.

my first week I was given a perm platnimum memb and paid cash money for advice and asked to be apart of the **** team. so long ago....

but anyhow, like I said, it is a different place there, dont mean this to come off as harsh as it sounds, but you would probably be better off just staying there bud.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
He really is what he says, I know him personally and we train together. I don't see why so many ppl r hating on him, its totally uncalled for.
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could be, but you know im an aszhole already. he seems like he is a nice guy but gets easily offeneded, which is always fun.

but aside from him as a person, which i dont know, his info started out bad, and there is no way im reading the book of stuff he pasted, so unfortnuately, he's stuck with me being an azz until he says something short and databased that impresses me.

but then, he would have to care, which if i was him, I wouldn't.
 
jbryand101b said:
could be, but you know im an aszhole already. he seems like he is a nice guy but gets easily offeneded, which is always fun.

but aside from him as a person, which i dont know, his info started out bad, and there is no way im reading the book of stuff he pasted, so unfortnuately, he's stuck with me being an azz until he says something short and databased that impresses me.

but then, he would have to care, which if i was him, I wouldn't.
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Yeah its his italian blood, that's all I gotta say. I'm too mellow to get worked up must b the leftover LSD in my system from a few years back lol.
 
They can hate bro... Im gonna stick around and continue to help people out.. And as far as EF, I dont wanna sit on the forums and help people out and get paid for that... Its something i do in my free time... I dont need cash... I have a good paying job and jsut want to pass down some knowledge that i have been blessed with... No biggie tho...
 
jbryand101b said:
whats your name on elite? and I imagine you are also on ntb m's forum as well, so whats your username on those?

I am jury101b & jbryand101b (elite)
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Im not **** forum... Im not a rep for ****, all i simply did was post an article wrote by Nathan Chase, the founder of ****, and all the sudden, im the one that isnt knowledgable... I didnt write anything posted in the first 7 posts.... That was all copy and paste, so yes, there are alot of **** products in there... you can find other companies marketing products that do the same thing as these... I have personally used some of the products amongst many other and recovery was far faster than with revolution Black, or other OTC PCT....
 
jbryand101b said:
hmm, you seem to have quite a bit of karma over there, elite has a different group of people, there are a lot of unknowledgable people over there, i dont have time to read through your post, but if you've been there 5 years, and never approached by needto, then you must be doing something wrong.

my first week I was given a perm platnimum memb and paid cash money for advice and asked to be apart of the **** team. so long ago....

but anyhow, like I said, it is a different place there, dont mean this to come off as harsh as it sounds, but you would probably be better off just staying there bud.
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Whya re there alot of Unknowledgable people over there... We have people posting Blood work and we Tell them whats wrong with Bloods, I think you have uneducated people on every forum... but you also have alot of knowledgable people over there..
Steve is hands down one of the smartest dudes i have ever meet when it comes to AAS... and as far as being hott headed... All i did was simply post some knowledge about why i would use nolva with deca, and i had 3 or 4 people jump down my throat about it.. When i posted studies, they denied... And when i have people telling me what im not, im gonna be hott headed.. All i ever asked for was a study or reference as to what they were saying and i never got it... its cool tho, as stated above.. Im gonan help people, and i dont really care what your karma or rep power BS say, im more knowledgable then 99% of the people on this board.... And i dont need a green light red light to tell me that....
 
san731 said:
Make sure it's all **** products bro.

Im sure he's a good enough dude but I know English must've been part of the gen ed requirements of any college degree.

Lot of info that doesn't match up. He posts a pct article that takes a translator to read basically just trying to get people to buy **** products and then boasts about his pct that he used after his last cycle for quick recovery which did indeed have a serm.

And then he's a molecular biologist...then an RN...and probably an underwater basket weaver next.

To many inconsistencies. From what I could understand. Which wasn't much.

Lots of unwarranted hostility too when people just point out flaws in his arguments. And like a two year old he makes up fictional BS about someones character to try to tear someone down instead of addressing the inconsistencies. Like hell more than likely do after reading this post.

Whatever though, just my .02[/QUOT

I didnt write the article.. The owner of **** did. I was just showing the correlation of OTC products and your savior "nolva"...

I DONT WORK OR REP FOR NTMB
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DRSTRISMADAST said:
I was just showing the correlation of OTC products and your savior "nolva"...
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You have been trying to set this argument up as the reason for your copy and paste knowledge. I'm new here and I just don't see the "nolva is our savior" view on this board. Some use it and it works for some PCT. Stop lumping everyone together and acting like you are the only one who sees the light. I see a broad range of PCT information and recommendations on AM.

The "nolva is all we know" straw-man argument is not gonna fly. It's disingenuous and it boldly insults the majority on AM.
 
soontobbeast said:
this was a joke, right?

surely, he didn't spell 'received' wrong while claiming he has a PhD.
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Lol he spelt everything wrong he learned so much about PCT he had to forget grammar
 
URGENT! NEED ANSWERS ABOUT FORMA STANZOL!!!!!

Hey everyone,

I am new to this site, and this is my first post, so please excuse any forum faux-pas on my part.

To be honest, if you had asked me last month, this would have probably been the last place I would be looking for info on products that I use, because I never have and still have no intention on using any kind of steroids. I am a natty lifter - been lifting for just over 25 years. I don't think anything less of anyone else who does do steroids, because it all comes down to freedom of personal choice. I respect and don't judge those who are honest about doing steroids, and simply ask the same in return for my personal choice of not using them. Normally I wouldn't even bother mentioning anything about natty versus steroids unless I am asked, but it's relevant to my situation and important to understand if there is any way to answer my questions I have below - so there it is.
Anyway, in all my research with regards to supplements, some of the most accurate and well researched answers have been from forums and posts by people using steroids. So like I said, no judgement, and if the info is solid, then its solid, doesn't matter who it comes from.
So here's my situation and my questions that I really really would like some input on:

I have naturally high estrogen levels, thanks to what is called 'Cushing's Syndrome'. After all my years of lifting heavy and training hard, I finally found a product that cuts the estrogen spike that chases the high test levels after a hard workout. That product is Forma Stanzol. I s**t you not, it made such an amazing difference - no nausea and bloating from the estrogen, and much less side effects like other A.I's like Estrogenex, i.e. dry joints. I haven't felt so good - ever. It's like I have been sick for the past twenty something years, and finally found something that takes away the symptoms of illness. I have been using this product for four weeks, and the whole time I have been trying to find out the answers to these few really important questions;

1) When using Forma Stanzol as a stand alone product, do you have to cycle it? Or is this something that can be used on a permanent, daily basis without harming or causing irreversible effects?

2) If I have to cycle it, what is the maximum use time (days or weeks) I should use it?

3) If I have to cycle it, how long of a break (days or weeks) should I take in between?

I really appreciate any answers I can get in response to this post and these questions. Also, any other suggestions of any other products that might help me if I end up having to cycle this - please post, because I do not want to go back to feeling like I did before.

Thanks in advance for reading!
 
Suggested use is 2 months max, but idt think it'd hurt if u used it indefinitely, especially with your condition. I'm glad it works for u, forma is good sh*t. It actually use to b prescription that was injected but it was proving to b anabolic so they stopped administering it that way. I really don't think u need a break IMO.
 
Thanks so much for your quick response, just trying my best to educate myself, lol sometimes you don't know which is worse - the cure or the disease....

Since taking forma stanzol in the last few weeks virtually every negative symptom I have suffered with for the past twenty years or so have ceased. Yes, I have felt one side effect from taking this after taking it for four weeks, (mind you, at a rather high dosage - ten pumps am, ten pumps pm) I did start to get the dry joints that a person can expect from taking such a high dosage of this particular AI which I have now lowered to half of that amount per day (5 pumps am, 5 pumps pm), as long as I am taking enough EFA's, and plenty of water I feel great. It is hard to believe what a difference this has made in my life, especially not having all that excess pressure around my kidneys due to less water retention and bloat around that area.

So for any Natty lifters out there, this is definitely the best AI I have ever used, if your find forma stanzol, you don't need to look anywhere else!

Thanks again, I really appreciate your time, and of course anyone else's that read this and can give me any input in this area.

Best of luck with your ongoing training!
 
Forma is one of my favorite AIs hands down, especially forma-stanzol it has other great benefits besides lowering estrogen.
 
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