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AI's and SERMS

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I was told to take these during cycle to curb problems before they came up- then SIZE posts not to take them until after problems come up (maybe only because I'm talking about only going 500mg/wk test). So does anyone else have an opinion about taking it as preventive measures or taking it only as corrective measures. The old ounce of prevention thing... There might be a spot of dbol in there too...
 
yes usually you can take nolva during cycle in order to combat for the aromatising of estrogen while on test. a couple of other products that do this are arimidex and letrozole. Another good one is Raloxifene.
 
see- I was going to do 10 mg/day nolva, and I was thinking about adding arimidex to get rid of some estrogen I think will be building up in my system (instead of just blocking it). Then someone posted that the instructions inside arimidex box says not to use with nolva! Nobody has yet said why- but it was said and not disproven. I don't want to put out 60 bucks and then find out I can't take two together...
 
Estrogen is not as bad as many want to believe. Using an AI or a SERM when it is not needed is just not wise in my opinion. At low to moderate dosages, they simply are not necessary except in select individuals.
Preventative steps are wise, but prevention by the addition of other drugs that also impart unhealthy side effects is not.
Are you going to take lipitor daily b/c in the future you may need it? Are you going to take viagra daily b/c you may have sex next weekend?

Please recognize, that while SERM and AI usage is often talked about very nonchalantly, they are serious drugs that carry health risks. Using them when they are not needed just is not wise in my opinion.
 
Good point. Guess I won't worry about it unless something comes up. Might be good to have on hand in case....Thanks for the advice.
 
Here is what William Llewellyn said about this topic in Anabolics 2002.

Estrogen may play a very important role in the promotion of an anabolic state by affecting glucose utilization in muscle tissue.
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Estrogen may also play an important role in the production of growth hormone and IGF-1.
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It has been demonstrated that estrogen can increase the concentration of androgen receptors in certain tissues.
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Basically I think it calls for a cautious approach to the use of estrogen maintenence drugs if mass is the key goal. Obviously if there is a clear need to use anti-estrogens due to the onset of estrogenic side effects, then they should be used...Gynecomastia is certainly an unwanted problem for the steroid user as are noticable fat mass gains. But if these problems have not presented themselves, the added estrogen due to a cycle of testosterone or Dianabol for example might indeed be aiding in the buildup of muscle mass. An individual ... not prone to getting these side effects may therefore want to hold off estrogen maintenance drugs so as to achieve the maximum gains in tissue mass possible.

This was taken from pages 9 thru 10 under the topic "Estrogen Aromatization". Read in far more detail for yourself by downloading the complete book in pdf format from:

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