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OrcasIsland25

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I've been searching the supplement market for the last few months after getting accepted to CWU to play football. I'm 5'11",190lbs, looking to gain about 15-25lbs but I don't want to get so bulky that i lose speed. I've done a lot of research myself but if anyone on here could help me out that'd be awesome.

p.s. If you're just gonna hate on me cause I'm only 18 then don't bother posting anything please.
 
Steriods are rampant in DII football my friend, expect to see tons of it at school, at least that is what saw on the East coast for most DII programs
 
Protein, creatine, BCAAs, 2 tbsp natural peanut butter per meal and before bed. A lot of milk and beef.... Add in heavy squats, deads and bent over rows and you'll be G2G...
 
I've talked to guys on here that say one of the best natural stacks is Mass FX + anti aromatase such as Novedex XT + plus the basics. I'm about to run Mass FX + Novedex Xt and I'd be happy to let you know how it goes, PM me. Prime by USP is also grat for strength and you will find many on this forum who second that motion. Also got some LG Natadrol on order. This stuff is suppose to be quite powerful, have PH like properties but won't cause you to test positive for steroids- but thats just speculation at this point as it is a new product with very few reviews on it. IMO Mass FX and Prime are the most effective product I've ever used.
 
R1Balla, I'm looking for a natural stack mainly because of all the sides short and long term I've heard come with taking PH/juice before youre 21.
Swan1209, I checked out Mass-FX and it looks good. How long have you been taking it?
 
Possibly cordygen by Millenium would benfit cardio endurance for your speed training. Something for you to investigate / consider
 
ya i completely agree on going natural. i hate PHs now. anyway, im currently logging HGHup with Prime if u wanna check out my results so far. Ive broken a few personal records. here are a few stack suggestions that I would suggest:

1.) RPM + Drive + Neovar or any creatine >>> Drive is geared towards athelets

2.) IGF 2 + Prime with creatine

3.) HGHup + Prime

4.) HGHup + Diesel Test Pro Cycle

5.) TestoPRO + IGF 2 or HGHup

6.) Sustain Alpha + IGF 2 or HGHup with creatine

Basically, any combo of Diesel Test Pro Cycle, Sustain Alpha, HGHup, Prime, IGF 2, Sustain Alpha, TestoPRO and creatine. I would use creatine with any stack or use it as recomp as I will be doing with my stack of HGHup and Prime. My logging is under the supplement review section. any other questions you have for me post on here or PM me. good luck bro.
 
I used one bottle of mass FX last summer and thats when I had my best short term gains. Unfortunately its a bit pricey, otherwise I'd be cycling that stuff all the time. But heres what my source told me about stacking with mass FX: AMAZING stack, reason you take both is that testopro has the I3C and more Divanil, the more Divanil the more prevention of SHBG binding. 1 cap of novedex xt will suppress SHBG even further, decrease estrogen, increase both total and free testosterone. So there seems to be alot of support for TestoPro across the board, Mass FX is my personal favorite but I've yet to use TestoPro, as stated earlier, stacking the two should be synergistic. As for the Novedex XT. I read of guys using it as a stand alone and making good gains so I figured it would be as part of that stack. Last time I used Novedex i just had a 3 week "cycle" and I didn;t gain much but leaned out and slept really well.
 
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