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Advice on PH Cycle and Supplements

DJShred

DJShred

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I've recently started a 4-week cycle of Halotest-25 with Now Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator. My current supplements are as follows:

Empty stomach:
Halotest-25 (2x per day)
Multi-vitamin
Kre-Alkaline
Flax seed oil

After dinner:
Glucosamine
Now Liver Detox

I take all of the above as per the label.

During Workout:
Amino Max BCAA drink
5g Glutamine added

Post Workout:
Whey shake (about 60g protein)
Creatine Monohydrate (5g) added

I stopped loading and cycling the monohydrate when I started taking the Kre-Alkaline.

I'm planning on taking Post Cycle after my 4-weeks and was wondering if I should also add an AI (like Testropelx??) as well. Any other suggestions on my current routine or post cycle would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
I plan on keeping all of my regular daily's and just removing the Halotest (obviously).

I'm gonna keep taking the detox through the post cycle and I'm looking at using Prolabs Post Cycle and maybe Testroplex as well. I'm very open to suggestion on anything else I should be adding to my PCT. I've done my research but I'm still a newbie to prohormones.
 
I don't care how mild halotest is, I wouldn't recommend or suggest anyone do a pct without a serm. Google it. Nolva or clomid, take your pick after reading a bit about both. Then you can stack it with a natty test booster like DAA and yo have a slam dunk pct.
 
Cool. I'll add a a serm. If I add a DAA should I still do both the post cycle and the AI? Thanks again for the help!
 
Any suggestions on legally obtaining a serm? I see a lot of people say that it's legal to buy in liquid form for "research purposes". Any truth to this?
 
Okay, so I did a 4-week cycle with some impressive results early on. I put on 3 pounds week 1 and another 2 pounds week 2. No gains after that. I'm a notorious hard-gainer so I was thrilled with the results.

Unfortunately, my shoulder started acting up toward the end of my cycle and I've been forced into 2 weeks of rest (with supplementation). It kills me to take the time off but I was on the verge of dropping a bar on myself.

Even more unfortunately, I lost virtually all my visible gains and most of the weight gains since. It's hard for me to point a finger at the Halotest or at the rest exclusively. My post cycle has consisted of:
Now ZMA
Revolution PCT
Testroplex
Spartan Blend (Tribulus, horny goat, etc...)

I omitted the serm because I really wasn't comfortable obtaining one "for research purposes". Any thoughts on what went wrong to cause such sudden and drastic losses so quickly?

Also, does anyone know anything about Halotren? Might I expect better results from this?
 
For research purposes is a term they throw on there so people like us can obtain it. CEM products is a good company and offers 30% off to AM users. Everyone will tell you the same thing, you will need a serm. Sorry to hear about your shoulder to man. I have back problems that sideline me some times.
 
do what everyone said, get a SERM, after you find a site add the word "legit?" it and you can find if its obviously legit.

an example when doing halo (hdrol) at 50mg a day for 30 days, PCT should look something like this

SERM: Clomid 50/50/25/25 or Nolva 20/20/10/10
Aromatase inhibitor: Erase: 0/0/1/2/3/3/2 or Forestane 0/0/0/100/100/50/50
DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g
another option is adding another testbooster than doesnt have DAA in it.
 
R1balla said:
you should have a serm
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YEP! you know what they say: SERM = sperm! (they dont actually say that, i just made that up, but its true lol)
 
Okay, so it seems unanimous... I screwed up not using a serm in my post cycle and that combined with the time off is what killed my gains. Has anyone tried any of Power Labs Level 2 or Level 3 products (Halotren or Androdrol)? Better results than Halotest? Worse side effects (I had none with Halotest)?
 
halotren is going to be better IMO but you still need to take 10-12wks off from your last day of PCT(time on +pct = time off). So you have at least 8 solid wks before you can start another cycle again. If you begin things early you risk many things going wrong, liver, hormones, blood pressure, etc etc

so get 2 bottles of halotren and a serm, read & research on this site til the 1st of the year.
 
Time on + pct + about 4 weeks is always a great way to go. During PCT your body is still pretty doped up trying to get your hormones back to normal schedule, so it's always recommended to take a little more time after to let your body sit naturally for a little while. 4 weeks on + 4 weeks pct + about 4 weeks ( negotiable for two weeks) = 10-12 weeks.
 
I usually double dose NOW liver detox if I use it especially during pct but thats just me. Doses aren't very high.
 
That formula makes sense. I took the Now Liver Detox through my cycle and am continuing it during my post cycle in addition to the OTC PCT. Still go higher?
 
A lot of OTC PCT has some kind of liver guard in it, but I don't think upping doses on that would hurt anything.
 
DJShred said:
That formula makes sense. I took the Now Liver Detox through my cycle and am continuing it during my post cycle in addition to the OTC PCT. Still go higher?
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Just based on (Cycle Assist) and (Cycle support) dosing, the Now is low as far as milk thistle. But I've read you can get good liver protection with 500-600mg. The NAC is also low, but its got a boat load of stuff in it so its still a good product in general.
 
So my 4-week PCT is coming to an end today. I intend to take 2 or 3 weeks off of the AI and OTC PCT. In preparation for my next cycle I'm looking for opinions. I have great initial results with Halotest. Gymrat thinks I'll have better results with Halotren, however I'm reading some mixed reviews. Has anyone tried both Halotest and Halotren? Which gave you better results and did you see an increase in side effects from the tren?
 
halotren is going to be much better, it has a 19-nor oral tren in there. You will be using 2 compounds instead of 1....
 
halo tren will take a lot more research and support supps. id wait longer between cycles. wait about 8 weeks. try something like Epi-strong, high dose pmag, higher dose D-plex, d-zine, light dose of SD.
 
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