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Advice on keeping gains

Soldiersimon1

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So ive got 2 weeks left out of a 6 week andro bulking stack cycle, 330mg m1d andro and 1&4 andro. Ive put on crazy gains 17lbs so far (with a good high calorie diet of course) im wondering if i maintain my high daily calorie intake and continue to go hard in the gym, why would i lose my gains? Apart from water retention of course but thats standard. Im looking so lean : l
 
Soldiersimon1 said:
So ive got 2 weeks left out of a 6 week andro bulking stack cycle, 330mg m1d andro and 1&4 andro. Ive put on crazy gains 17lbs so far (with a good high calorie diet of course) im wondering if i maintain my high daily calorie intake and continue to go hard in the gym, why would i lose my gains? Apart from water retention of course but thats standard. Im looking so lean : l
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Run a solid PCT, I did 1, 4, and Epi Andro for 8 weeks over spring time, used Sup3r PCT, Nolva, Super Rhanderol, and Sustain Alpha plus ate slightly above maintenance cals and seemed to have kept most of my gains.

To answer your question you would lose gains because your natural test levels will be bottomed out, your E levels will rebound, and your cortisol will spike after cycle.

A general thing people do in PCT is run a OTC all in one PCT product, a natty test booster (that's what Sustain Alpha does) and some kind of natty anabolics.

After my next cycle I will be using BPS Sustain Alpha&Androcrine (transdermal Laxogenin), OL EP1C Unleashed (Epicat) and Sparta Trojan (OTC PCT) along with my SERM. Probably sounds like a lot of $$$ but it's worth it IMO to keep and solidify the gains you made on cycle.

Hope this helps.
 
Aside from a SERM and supps, just do the obvious...

>Keep protein intake sufficient and dont neglect fats

>Maintain weekly training volume as much as possible, and intensity (where intensity = #RM)
 
NewAgeMayan said:
Aside from a SERM and supps, just do the obvious...

>Keep protein intake sufficient and dont neglect fats

>Maintain weekly training volume as much as possible, and intensity (where intensity = #RM)
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This. Having a serm and proper nutrition and training will be the main things in holding you gains during pct.
 
If your taking creatine still you can cut it and reintroduce it at week 2 of pct for a nice strength boost.
You can also run those mild Andros for 8 weeks making the gains easier to keep.
IMO cut creatine run the 1 and 4 another 4 weeks (not sure about m1d) start creatine with pct, keep calories high. I think the above helped me. I also added xgels, 5a hdroxy lax, mk677, and Epitechin and I'm smashing PRs on an extended 6 week pct
 
Just be careful if you decide to add Mk667 into PCT as it can increase prolactin in gyno sensitive males which would be the last thing you want in PCT.
 
Have you PCT in check. Use a SERM and an OTC product or two.

Keep your caloric intake high. I may even increase it a little, but not a lot from what you were eating during the cycle.

Make sure your tracking your lifts too in order to see if you're still progressing or not.

For natural products to use with your SERM, I would suggest an ArA product. ArA is great for strength gains. I would also use AlphaMax XT with the SERM. This will ensure you have a product that has DHAA, which is an AI for any spike in cortisol. Free testosterone will be increased with forskolin, 3,4 dinavil and ashwagandha. Forskolin is also a great aid to increase lean mass and decrease fat by increasing cAMP levels in the body. I have stacked ArA with AlphaMax XT and love the combo. Those, along with your SERM, high caloric consumption and increasing progressive in training should help keep the gains made during your cycle.
 
lifted67 said:
Just be careful if you decide to add Mk667 into PCT as it can increase prolactin in gyno sensitive males which would be the last thing you want in PCT.
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True. It actually lowered my libido a little.
But sup3rpct prolactin control. Most people avoid prolactin issues all together and guys like me can add a supp to combat the minor rise in cortisol and prolactin
 
I was told inhibit P is good for flare ups as well but if you can keep E regulated Prolactin shouldn't be a problem.
 
lifted67 said:
Run a solid PCT, I did 1, 4, and Epi Andro for 8 weeks over spring time, used Sup3r PCT, Nolva, Super Rhanderol, and Sustain Alpha plus ate slightly above maintenance cals and seemed to have kept most of my gains.

To answer your question you would lose gains because your natural test levels will be bottomed out, your E levels will rebound, and your cortisol will spike after cycle.

A general thing people do in PCT is run a OTC all in one PCT product, a natty test booster (that's what Sustain Alpha does) and some kind of natty anabolics.

After my next cycle I will be using BPS Sustain Alpha&Androcrine (transdermal Laxogenin), OL EP1C Unleashed (Epicat) and Sparta Trojan (OTC PCT) along with my SERM. Probably sounds like a lot of $$$ but it's worth it IMO to keep and solidify the gains you made on cycle.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks mate helps alot
 
I did tr1umph X gels testify and epic unleashed for my pct along with nolva and clomid. Got even stronger during pct. creatine glutamine and bcaa's are important also
 
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