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IFBBound said:
Currently working on a spreadsheet for what I ate today but here's is family dinner!


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Looks good, keep killing it dude.
 
This is what you guys asked for and I did my best hope it meets your standards! Let me know what u think! The yellow highlight I consider my larger real meals. The other I consider healthy obviously but basically I'm not gaining weight and I'm trying to mix it up eating higher carbs and fats. Today was a very high fat day. I'm usually around 120-130g.

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Don't understand why you aren't gaining weight.......boggles the mind! Have you tried a big SOLID meal before bed?
 
Montego1 said:
Don't understand why you aren't gaining weight.......boggles the mind! Have you tried a big SOLID meal before bed?
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No I guess not I always have had a casein shake before bed as the last thing. I just thought since its slow release that would be as good if not better. But no I haven't tried it. What would u do? Casein 2 hrs before bead then bedtime meal? For example on of the ones in yellow...
I don't understand either. I know I eat enough healthy carbs. Should I try eating more meat? I'm open to recommendations.
 
I would take the casein before I laid down still but eat a big meal about twenty minutes before that....the casein is still going to slow release over the eight hours. I'm no nutritionist by any means though LOL. You might just have to dirty the diet up. You are eating A LOT of good food and not gaining weight so you might have to go Ronnie Coleman and eat ice cream and fried chicken.
 
And from the start of the log I noticed quite a few calories coming from the shakes.....solid food will make you grow more then the shakes. It's hard to get that many calories in solid food that's why I mentioned getting a little dirty.
 
I would combine the 9am and 3 pm meals and do those both at 5 am. Around 9am I would do something like the 1:30pm meal. At 3 I would use the up your mass shake. You could also throw some high gi carbs in post workout.....sugary cereal or something of the sort.....and do you always only get 6 hours of sleep? :) if so you are hardcore and that could be another reason for the stall. I'm just spit balling though.
 
Montego1 said:
I would combine the 9am and 3 pm meals and do those both at 5 am. Around 9am I would do something like the 1:30pm meal. At 3 I would use the up your mass shake. You could also throw some high gi carbs in post workout.....sugary cereal or something of the sort.....and do you always only get 6 hours of sleep? :) if so you are hardcore and that could be another reason for the stall. I'm just spit balling though.
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Lol yes I work long 11-12 hour days, 4 days a week!!! So sleeping is tough. But I average 6 hours on work nights. Maybe 8 the other 2 or 3 days.
That is a good mix to my meal plan tho. I will re arrange some things and try your theory. It makes sense.
I may have to dirty up a little bit, although I don't like it. Maybe ill increase cardio which I rarely do, if I dirty up once a day. And I'm not saying 2 Big Macs and a large shake but you get my point.
As far as the post workout sugar meal (cereal)... What is your reasoning behind this? Forgive me for being uneducated on this idea.
 
IFBBound said:
Lol yes I work long 11-12 hour days, 4 days a week!!! So sleeping is tough. But I average 6 hours on work nights. Maybe 8 the other 2 or 3 days.
That is a good mix to my meal plan tho. I will re arrange some things and try your theory. It makes sense.
I may have to dirty up a little bit, although I don't like it. Maybe ill increase cardio which I rarely do, if I dirty up once a day. And I'm not saying 2 Big Macs and a large shake but you get my point.
As far as the post workout sugar meal (cereal)... What is your reasoning behind this? Forgive me for being uneducated on this idea.
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I think he's getting at how insulin wud store it while adding extra calories.. Try using a carb supp i like waxy maize flavorless.. You cud throw as much of it as you want in a post workout. Good thing about it is its a simple sugar but has a more complex molecular shape so it won't spike and crash insulin
 
machorox123 said:
I think he's getting at how insulin wud store it while adding extra calories.. Try using a carb supp i like waxy maize flavorless.. You cud throw as much of it as you want in a post workout. Good thing about it is its a simple sugar but has a more complex molecular shape so it won't spike and crash insulin
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Ah you know I do have a supplement similar. Karbolic or something like that at home. Maybe ill drink that during my workout instead of water. I haven't used it lately since I didn't like the taste but I gotta take it down and see what it does for me.
 
I do karbolic immediately post workout with protein
 
Montego1 said:
I do karbolic immediately post workout with protein
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I will begin this in addition. Thanks for the input! I actually stepped on the scale at work and with all my clothes and shoes on I weighed 225 so I actually think I put on 2-4 lbs in the last 3 days or so. Think ill be about 219-220lbs tonight on my scale at home (stripped to my boxers).
 
The idea is to have high gi carbs post workout to replenish your glycogen stores and increase your anabolic response to resistance training.
 
Lukef2000 said:
The idea is to have high gi carbs post workout to replenish your glycogen stores and increase your anabolic response to resistance training.
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Your glycogen stores won't ever be depleted if your a bodybuilder.. Idc how hard yur workout is. But like you said high GI carbs after working out will favor how the nutrients are shuttled.. An with the amount of anabolics this guy is running already acting as nutrient partitioners i would recommend a boatload of carbs post workout
 
machorox123 said:
Your glycogen stores won't ever be depleted if your a bodybuilder.. Idc how hard yur workout is. But like you said high GI carbs after working out will favor how the nutrients are shuttled.. An with the amount of anabolics this guy is running already acting as nutrient partitioners i would recommend a boatload of carbs post workout
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So your saying that after leg day your glycogen stores aren't depleted at all?? Or if your on a caloric deficit for example? While your on cycle and eating a ****load your probably right but it's a good habit to get into and maintain year round to have high GI carbs post workout.
 
Not sure on the gi of karbolic. It's a blend of fast medium and slow digesting carbohydrates.
 
Not sure if the karbolic is responsible. But I have held a steady weight of 217-219 lbs for the last 3 days. This is up 4-5 lbs since beginning of cycle. Today ends week 6!! Soo maybe I jumped the gun on questioning my weight. The injectables should really be working as of the last week or two. I'm curious if it will continue to be as easy as the last few days have been. I also have been so contious about it, I am eating like 6-7 cups of rice a day along with many other foods. Another leg session tonight. Ill have a more extensive update tomorrow morning. My day off work finally. Progress pics in 2 more weeks. I think you guys will be impressed... I know I am.
 
Lukef2000 said:
So your saying that after leg day your glycogen stores aren't depleted at all?? Or if your on a caloric deficit for example? While your on cycle and eating a ****load your probably right but it's a good habit to get into and maintain year round to have high GI carbs post workout.
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Pretty much either way high GI carbs are never bad postworkout.. Think about it though. Your glycogen stores will replenish themselves even with minimal carbs if your only training one time a day thus they wud only be really depleted if your doing some crazy endurance marathon type training
 
IFBBound said:
Not sure if the karbolic is responsible. But I have held a steady weight of 217-219 lbs for the last 3 days. This is up 4-5 lbs since beginning of cycle. Today ends week 6!! Soo maybe I jumped the gun on questioning my weight. The injectables should really be working as of the last week or two. I'm curious if it will continue to be as easy as the last few days have been. I also have been so contious about it, I am eating like 6-7 cups of rice a day along with many other foods. Another leg session tonight. Ill have a more extensive update tomorrow morning. My day off work finally. Progress pics in 2 more weeks. I think you guys will be impressed... I know I am.
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Nice dude!! Yeah those long esters are tricky. I. Really only stick to short esters but it is a pain pinning everyday lol.. Holy hell 7 cups of rice!! This shiz is just getting started.. The weight is start pilling on bro
 
Day 43- beginning of week 7
Test E/Deca/EQ
700mg/500mg/700mg

Today's weight: 217lbs

As most of you know I'm on the brink of figuring out this weight issue. I want to be heavier and trying so hard to put on size.
Visually my body has made substantial changes, I'm actually eager and excited to post progress pics! The response I got last time I posted progress gave me much confidence and I have seen my body get rounder and bigger since then. My strength is really really good right now. Call me full of myself but I have been told by a friend I'm one of the biggest guys in the gym haha. Ill take it though.

Yesterday was my first day back in the gym. Before that I took a 2 day break. I guess it was needed since I literally go like 6 days a week for years now. No spotter tho, no buddy with me. Also walking in the doors of the gym I had no plan!!! I though about what sort of training I have been lacking in and decided I have been putting so much effort into my legs I haven't neglected my core but I definately don't hit it hard enough lately. So I began with core or ab workout and by the end of it my abs were destroyed. I usually have no problem with hanging leg lifts but I hit that last and man.... I could barely do em.

After a 30-45 min ab session I decided to hit chest and triceps a little. Again, no spotter. I flat benched all different variations. Wide grip, close grip, even under grip... Bench pressing with palms facing up towards your face rather than your feet. This allowed me to get a different kind of squeeze or pump that I am not used to. It felt good. I am trying to really squeeze my chest and not so much just go all out on heavyweight. Sometimes lighter is better if you know how to control your muscles. I feel my chest is massive but the inner chest is lacking. So I really worked on that

Here are some strength numbers. Again no spotter. Not every set included just trying to give an idea.
Flat bench
225x12
275x10
315x6

Incline bench
135x10
185x10
225x8

Pec deck whole stack (200lbs)
First set 20 reps

Dumbell fly
60lbsx10

Weighted dips
135lbsx 5 reps

Seated dips (whole stack idk like 240 or 260lbs)
10 reps first set decreasing reps every set

Yesterday I mixed it up I did some light sets so I could really work on the squeeze and stretch of the muscle and on other sets I took more a strength program idea with some lower reps but heavier weight. I'm just disappointed I couldn't push the limits and maybe even get some forced reps but I compensated by using drop sets. Also kept my rest time shorter than normal. About 1 min to 75 seconds.

Today is yet again another leg day! I'm excited as usual and since its my day off the gym should be pretty empty. I'm going to try doing lots of sets today. I usually do like 4 sets. Today I'm going to try 7 sets of squats. And more sets on everything. Now that I have been anabolic minding it all morning it's time I go eat again so I gotta cut you guys loose. I will record and update my leg workout. Post will be up tonight.

Thanks for checking in!
 
And a little post workout meal action. 45 mins after the workout this chicken meal. I already used whey protein isolate and karbolic.


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thyrod said:
That's looks good! How ya cool it?
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Grilled chicken breast.
Baked sweet potato using cocoanut oil not olive oil.
Steamed broccoli.

I premake all my meals. Yesterday I pre cooked 6 of these and 4 lean ground beef and long grain brown rice. These don't include my breakfast or family dinner. Just what I take to work.
 
Today I did a test. How much calories could I eat in just solid clean eating foods. No protein gainers just a lot of pasta, chicken, ground beef, rice, eggs, ezekiel bread, Greek yogurt, protein granola, sandwich from home, sweet potatoes, chicken, broccoli... And a few I'm sure I'm missing. This is what I reached today.


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IFBBound said:
Today I did a test. How much calories could I eat in just solid clean eating foods. No protein gainers just a lot of pasta, chicken, ground beef, rice, eggs, ezekiel bread, Greek yogurt, protein granola, sandwich from home, sweet potatoes, chicken, broccoli... And a few I'm sure I'm missing. This is what I reached today.

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There we go!
 
Holding steady at 220 lbs. (up 5 lbs) this is in just boxers. I have a goal of 230lbs at end of PCT! It's time to make staggering gains! I'm starting to blow up I'm able to see separation in my quads and hams now! Just had to brag. Update coming tonight or tomorrow. At work today but off tomorrow.
 
Week 7 of deca it's just getting good week 14 is the best. To hit 230 u'll have to get stupid dum with cals. I'm in the 5000 and up range. It's constant eatting an ****ting with lifting in between. I've only been off deca a week or so and I already miss its sweet sweet embrace.
 
csa2179 said:
Week 7 of deca it's just getting good week 14 is the best. To hit 230 u'll have to get stupid dum with cals. I'm in the 5000 and up range. It's constant eatting an ****ting with lifting in between. I've only been off deca a week or so and I already miss its sweet sweet embrace.
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Lol I eat so much I get yelled at during work. And I am reaching 4,700-5,500 cal every day. I think 230 will be tough, but definitely possible. It's keeping the weight and size that will be the biggest challenge. With a handful of cycles under my belt I am finding it harder and harder to be a "hard gainer". The amount of time I spend in front of a tuppaware container or in the bathroom does FAR exceed nearly everything in my life.
And I am loving deca. I haven't had a bad deca cycle yet. Some people blow up in a bad way on this stuff but I'm staying pretty tight. With deca, people gain weight and u can see it in their face. You know what I mean?
 
Yeah I love the ****. I didn't really go up in fat till the last couple of weeks. Next time I'm going to blast with Npp at a high dose with a strong oral. I know it will destroy the bedroom life but I think it will be worth it.
 
Separation in the hams, you say? That's pretty ****ing out of control if you ask me. Nice work.
 
Alright alright! Gains are comin this is going to be a very busy week for me but will stick to my nutrition and training throughout. So I may not update but once or twice this week. Here is a snapshot of the leg progress I have had so far.


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Weight is now 222lbs (+7lbs)

Strength gains are substantial as well as size. I have really blown up HUGE in my back chest and shoulders... Evern arms. But like I said legs is my weak point but I think I've done very well as they have taken a nicer shape. What do u guys think?
 
I want to see a log!
 
Mack411 said:
I want to see a log!
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Welcome! Glad to have u along! I log as much as possible. I have a very busy lifestyle so I do apologize for giving detailed logs near weekly. Yet I try to give a quick scoop of what's going on every day. How do u recommend I better the structure of my log. What would you like to see? And please look previous pages back as I may already have some of the info you are looking for.
 
thyrod said:
Ooo you swapped gyms. I hate that.
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Not completely. They built another of the same chain equidistant from my house. So I gotta check the new bigger one out. New machines I may not be used to and the dumbbell a go heavier as well. Problem is... It's retarded packed because its relatively new.
 
IFBBound said:
Not completely. They built another of the same chain equidistant from my house. So I gotta check the new bigger one out. New machines I may not be used to and the dumbbell a go heavier as well. Problem is... It's retarded packed because its relatively new.
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Heavy dumbbells are such a rarity I only can get 130lbs at my current gym which just dont work for croc rows.
 
They go up to 150lbs... That's enough for me. But ya I'm so happy I can actually use dim bells over 100lbs like my old spot.
 
Glad to see that is way strength is way up! My gym goes up to 150 which is nice for rows. What I wish my gym had is a decline press machine. I've recently started to do decline bench on the smith. What's your thoughts on those?
 
Fyi had a family issue yesterday I still went to the gym. But my fiance is walking a thin line right now. Excuse my absence.
 
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