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aas winstrol vs ph h-drol

I'm 24 this year. I ever tried h drol, but never try winstrol,the injection so painful. Winstrol oral give you better result than h drol?
 
panther77 said:
Man do you have any idea how redundant you sound considering everytime someone asks a question someone says this sh!t, give them a break
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I agree as long as it's not a stupid question I don 't see why someone can't come into the steroid forum and ask a question about steroids. He's not in the how's my diet diet section. AnD I think that's a good question, I would go with the Winstrol only because for me I feel the h-drol is a little to mild IMO.
 
Gonzo14 said:
I'm almost sure your right, h-drol is not a steriod i know that, but i'm almost positive its to turnabol.

EDIT- i looked it up it is the prosteriod of turinabol
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hdrol will will partially convert to oral tbol but it has some intrisic activity on its own....so its both a ph and a steroid:006:
 
ValentineA said:
Really???
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Yep! Keep in mind though, that perhaps the oral winny i got couldve been bunk or undersdosed. I don't think it was bunk though, as I did see results. But I have used hdrol once, and oral winny once, and my experience was alot better with the hdrol. Now the inj winny....that shite made my muscles look like effing granite! Cramped like a mofo though!
 
I've run them both. I've run winstrol with turinabol as well. I'm currently using Hdrol. I have not used injectible winstrol, but consensus is that it is stronger due to absorption IM. The highest dose of Winstrol I have used is 40mg oral. Hdrol have used up to 75mg. And for comparison to Hdrol, I have run Turinabol at 50mg. But at that dose, it gave me headaches. Hdrol is doing this now at 75mg.
Winstrol makesyou look dense and lean and very vascular. I'm always less than 10% bf and usually 7-8%. If you are not already lean, winstrol does not have as much "noticeable" effect. It's great for a beach body look. It made me shed everytime I've taken it. It made my skin oily. It made my forearms ache and my shins. The hair shedding will prevent me from using it anymore. I don't get bigger on it, just a more dense look.
IMHO Hdrol at 75mg feels identical to Turinabol at 30-40mg. But I am getting more headaches from Hdrol. Both build muscle better IMHO than Winnie, but the Hdrol would require a higher dose. I absolutely love Tbol and Hdrol. Very clean, low androgenic activity, but excellent quality lean gains. Not as dense as Winstrol, but still quality. No hair sheds, no oil/acne.
By the way, all these cycles are with a base dose of Tprop at 350mg week. I'm conservative with all doses and really believe in Seth Roberts ideas on minimizing polypharmacy. Just use the lowest amounts for your goals.
 
I got headache too when I was in hdrol cycle. Maybe I should try winstrol,shouldn't I?
Do you ever hear winst 50 by global anabolic? Is it the legit or fake one?
 
I have used hd and ot. never tried winni, the sides for an effective oral dose were too great compared to ot.

but anyway, ot and hd are practically the same to me, they both felt the same, but as the other dude said before, I noticed a differance at a lower dosage of ot.

but if you were going for orals, I'd say go for hd. the sides will be much less than with winny.


and for the people thinking hd isn't a steroid. it is. it is a derivative of ot.
and it has never been proven that any converts into ot. it is thought this because 1,4ad converts to bold, m1,4ad is thought to convert to dbol, since dbol is methyl bold, and so, you have the choloro addition to the m1,4ad an it seems logical to assume some converts into ot.

none of this is really important as hd is a great ds in it's own right. if any does convert to ot, it is a very, very small amount.
 
Not to get off track, but the Hdrol/OT comparison is so common, yet as the post above states, it is likely active without conversion. This is such a unique designer. I wish there was a clear answer as to the whole conversion question. I read in a Q&A with Patrick Arnold that 50mg Hdrol is equal to 43mg Tbol. I've also read that it does not convert at all. No conversion necessary. And I've read that it is both active on it's own and converts. And no one can say how much conversion there is. Crazy. This to me is the one serious advantage established (illegal) AAS have over Designers. We know a heck of a lot more about Winstrol than Hdrol.
 
the best in my opinion.

btw, if you get headaches, this is most likely due to increase in bp, which you will feel even more so with winni, (if dosed properly) try taking support sups that help with bp (coq10 w/e) or do like I do, take an asprin (thins the blood, lowers bp, without effecting the aas) oh, and drink more water, eat less fat.
 
jbryand101b said:
the best in my opinion.

btw, if you get headaches, this is most likely due to increase in bp, which you will feel even more so with winni, (if dosed properly) try taking support sups that help with bp (coq10 w/e) or do like I do, take an asprin (thins the blood, lowers bp, without effecting the aas) oh, and drink more water, eat less fat.
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Thanks bro
 
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