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A good prohormone stack for cutting?

There are many that are much better than winstrol.

Methylated prohormones/designer steroids:
  • H-drol
  • Epistane
  • D-Plex / The One
  • Methylstenbolone

Non-methylated prohormones/desinger steroids:
  • Dienedione
  • Dienolone
  • Trendione
  • Epiandrosterone as ”test/DHT base”
 
g0hardorgohom said:
There are many that are much better than winstrol.

Methylated prohormones/designer steroids:
  • H-drol
  • Epistane
  • D-Plex / The One
  • Methylstenbolone

Non-methylated prohormones/desinger steroids:
  • Dienedione
  • Dienolone
  • Trendione
  • Epiandrosterone as ”test/DHT base”
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To be clear for OP, these are not sold OTC in America anymore, and are just as illegal as Winstrol (besides Epiandro, which is not very strong or effective at all, beyond the energy/libido aspects).

I’m not saying some aren’t as good or better at sufficient dosage, but ordering them and shipping them through customs poses the same legal risks. Safer to try to source them second hand state-side, same way you would UGL gear. Hypothetically.

This is why a lot of people end up using SARMs in the states. Something like RAD140 & S23 are going to be the most comparable in cosmetic effect to similar mg of Winstrol (for the average guy not already very lean).
 
Hyde said:
To be clear for OP, these are not sold OTC in America anymore, and are just as illegal as Winstrol (besides Epiandro, which is not very strong or effective at all, beyond the energy/libido aspects).

I’m not saying some aren’t as good or better at sufficient dosage, but ordering them and shipping them through customs poses the same legal risks. Safer to try to source them second hand state-side, same way you would UGL gear. Hypothetically.

This is why a lot of people end up using SARMs in the states. Something like RAD140 & S23 are going to be the most comparable in cosmetic effect to similar mg of Winstrol (for the average guy not already very lean).
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Thanks for the clarification. I was familiar with H-Drol from CEL before it got banned. So since I have no connections for gear or for these now banned PHs, I'm stuck with what you can buy legally online.
 
high dosed epiandro is about as close legally as you're going to get to winstrol now. S23 acts similar to winny but it's a SARM also, I think it's still available on the US market.
 
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WickedWarlock said:
Epiandro above 800mgs Ed is pretty great in my opinion
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WickedWarlock said:
Epiandro above 800mgs Ed is pretty great in my opinion
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xR1pp3Rx said:
high dosed epiandro is about as close legally as you're going to get to winstrol now. S23 acts similar to winny but it's a SARM also, I think it's still available on the US market.
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I'm currently on my 4th week on Stano-Plex by CEL which is 600mg a day of Epi. So you think taking a double dose, 1200mg, a day would give me better results?

As for the SARM, I always thought those were kind of frowned upon and that PHs were better for results?
 
JerseyDrew77 said:
I'm currently on my 4th week on Stano-Plex by CEL which is 600mg a day of Epi. So you think taking a double dose, 1200mg, a day would give me better results?

As for the SARM, I always thought those were kind of frowned upon and that PHs were better for results?
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1200 is a wicked good dose of epiandro but I would bump up to 900 first.
 
WickedWarlock said:
What dosage did you use of each by chance?
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I gotta dig into my log and find out

Dustin07

Post in thread 'To Infinity.... and Beyond!'

I should be off my epi by now but I had 3 caps of epiandrolean left in the bottle as well so I'm going to pound those today and call it good. So todays stack is starting a fairly natty run + those last three caps of epiandrolean (900mg total oral).

xpg alpha gel
xpg dhea
anabolic effect
phosphatidic acid xt (day 1 is today)
epiandrolean (3 caps/900mg)

Yesterday I only ran the fast about 20 hours till dinner but put in a walk with my wife and the dogs for half our of LISS.

Todays weight 199.6.
Felt much better to shed 5lbs of excess water.
My wedding ring that my wife bought me at...
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I had stacked Ultra Epi (450mg) with epiandrolean (600-900mg) looks like.
 
Dustin07 said:
I gotta dig into my log and find out

Dustin07

Post in thread 'To Infinity.... and Beyond!'

I should be off my epi by now but I had 3 caps of epiandrolean left in the bottle as well so I'm going to pound those today and call it good. So todays stack is starting a fairly natty run + those last three caps of epiandrolean (900mg total oral).

xpg alpha gel
xpg dhea
anabolic effect
phosphatidic acid xt (day 1 is today)
epiandrolean (3 caps/900mg)

Yesterday I only ran the fast about 20 hours till dinner but put in a walk with my wife and the dogs for half our of LISS.

Todays weight 199.6.
Felt much better to shed 5lbs of excess water.
My wedding ring that my wife bought me at...
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I had stacked Ultra Epi (450mg) with epiandrolean (600-900mg) looks like.
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Nice yeah 900 is a good sweet spot. Any more I get pretty decent increase in blood pressure which I like to avoid mostly lol.
 
WickedWarlock said:
Nice yeah 900 is a good sweet spot. Any more I get pretty decent increase in blood pressure which I like to avoid mostly lol.
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same, but not until towards the 6 week+ mark. so I think next time I'll just come out of the gate hot instead of ramping up like I did last spring. so far i've mostly only noticed that from orals, but I don't think I can easily hit 900mg TD anyways lol that's a lot of liquid.
 
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