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A few lingering questions before EPI cycle.

crunchie12268

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I appreciate all the advice I've received so far and I extend my thanks to Tagger for reviewing my plan and walking me through the basics... Although I want to give him a break because I've really been pestering him :)

I want to do this right and I've tried to do a lot of research myself to prepare appropriately for this cycle. I plan on doing a 6 week EPI cycle and my plan is as follows:

Diet: 2000 Calories over Maintenance

Multivitamin + Omegas + Protein throughout entire workout

Week 1 -- Pre-Loading Hawthorne Berry
Week 2 -- Pre-Loading Hawthorne Berry
Week 3 -- Cycle Assist (CEL)+ 15mg at 7am, 15mg at 3pm of EP15TANE
Week 4 -- Cycle Assist(CEL) + 15mg at 7am, 15mg at 12pm, 15mg at 5pm of EP15TANE
Week 5 -- Cycle Assist(CEL) + 15mg at 7am, 15mg at 12pm, 15mg at 5pm of EP15TANE
Week 6 -- Cycle Assist(CEL) + 15mg at 7am, 15mg at 12pm, 15mg at 5pm of EP15TANE
Week 7 -- Novladex + REVIVE PLATINUM + 4 Capsules of SUP3R PCT
Week 8 -- Novladex + REVIVE PLATINUM + 4 Capsules of SUP3R PCT
Week 9 -- Novladex + REVIVE PLATINUM + 4 Capsules of A1RMACARE (Nutriverse) + 4 Capsules of SUP3R PCT + ERASE
Week 10 -- Novladex + REVIVE PLATINUM + 4 Capsules of A1RMACARE (Nutriverse) + 4 Capsules of SUP3R PCT + ERASE
Week 11 -- REVIVE PLATINUM + 4 Capsules of A1RMACARE (Nutriverse) + 4 Capsules of SUP3R PCT + ERASE
Week 12 --REVIVE PLATINUM + 4 Capsules of A1RMACARE (Nutriverse) + 4 Capsules of SUP3R PCT + ERASE

Revive Platinum is a tribulus t-booster.

Final Questions:

- I currently take a fairly potent prework concoction... Friction + 3 Hydroxystim + Test Boosters... can I take this during my cycle at any point? Will the EPI essentially supplement my preworkout?

- I'm an engineer and I need to be focused, alert and make accurate rapid fire decisions daily.. is this going to effect that in any way?
- During my first two weeks of cycle prep I was thinking about cutting back at the gym to give my joints/body time to recover before I hit it harder than I ever have... is this okay?

I think that is about it. Thanks!
 
Final Questions: - I currently take a fairly potent prework concoction... Friction + 3 Hydroxystim + Test Boosters... can I take this during my cycle at any point? Will the EPI essentially supplement my preworkout? - I'm an engineer and I need to be focused, alert and make accurate rapid fire decisions daily.. is this going to effect that in any way? - During my first two weeks of cycle prep I was thinking about cutting back at the gym to give my joints/body time to recover before I hit it harder than I ever have... is this okay? I think that is about it. Thanks!
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-You can take the preworkout if you want, it just might give you some blood pressure issues, though I'd definitely save the test boosters for PCT. I almost never run preworkouts after the first couple weeks of a cycle, because I don't really need it with the steroid.

-I've never been affected negatively in terms of mental clarity from a hormone, and I'm a physicist. Some actually give me a bit of an edge. Especially test, or test base like things.

-That would work fine. I've done something similar before.
 
Sr_505 said:
-You can take the preworkout if you want, it just might give you some blood pressure issues, though I'd definitely save the test boosters for PCT. I almost never run preworkouts after the first couple weeks of a cycle, because I don't really need it with the steroid.

-I've never been affected negatively in terms of mental clarity from a hormone, and I'm a physicist. Some actually give me a bit of an edge. Especially test, or test base like things.

-That would work fine. I've done something similar before.
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I kinda second this, never needed pre work out w/ epistane. Test booster for PCT.
I started adding LGI stano at a daily dose of 600 2nd week to it; I believe it works partly in giving me a great deal of focus and upbeat feeling, besides (hopefully) other things and I tolerate both epi and stano well so far for a first ever cycle.
And I think you'll be liking epi, I know I do. 2nd week-near 3rd week has been very interesting (e.g people noticing a bigger physique)
 
Great... saves me some money :) I will start it with no pre workout. I started pre cycling today, can't wait to get started.

How do you all feel about taking creatine during the cycle? I see it going both ways on the research I've done....
 
crunchie12268 said:
Great... saves me some money :) I will start it with no pre workout. I started pre cycling today, can't wait to get started.

How do you all feel about taking creatine during the cycle? I see it going both ways on the research I've done....
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Take it on cycle
 
Looks good dude. I saved creatine for PCT to help keep gains, but probably would be fine either way.
 
I was hoping I could get a little advice because at the moment this cycle isn't working out how I thought it would. I am 2.5 weeks into my cycle of Epi, I started my first week at 30mg and after that brought it up to 45mg. I started out at 251lbs (6'4") and I am at 260lbs but I do not feel like the gain has been in the form of muscle. I have been taking in 3500-4000 calories today, my macros for today were approximately 3500/98/370/390 (Cal/F/C/P)...

I do not feel like the weight gain is muscle because with the way I am hitting the gym I can't imagine I am building anything. This cycle is making me very tired, I take a pre-workout to try to get me going but it brings my BP up so much I almost pass out during my lifts. I had way more intensity prior to this with a good prework, diet, protein and creatine mono. There was one day, maybe the 3rd day... I felt amazing on the epi.. I was lifting with intensity, I hit a new 1RM and thought this stuff might be the bees knees... but that was it, just one day and every other day has been crappy. Is there any advice out there? I am thinking about ending it early because I do not want to add on fat and continue to lift like I am.
 
crunchie12268 said:
I was hoping I could get a little advice because at the moment this cycle isn't working out how I thought it would. I am 2.5 weeks into my cycle of Epi, I started my first week at 30mg and after that brought it up to 45mg. I started out at 251lbs (6'4") and I am at 260lbs but I do not feel like the gain has been in the form of muscle. I have been taking in 3500-4000 calories today, my macros for today were approximately 3500/98/370/390 (Cal/F/C/P)...

I do not feel like the weight gain is muscle because with the way I am hitting the gym I can't imagine I am building anything. This cycle is making me very tired, I take a pre-workout to try to get me going but it brings my BP up so much I almost pass out during my lifts. I had way more intensity prior to this with a good prework, diet, protein and creatine mono. There was one day, maybe the 3rd day... I felt amazing on the epi.. I was lifting with intensity, I hit a new 1RM and thought this stuff might be the bees knees... but that was it, just one day and every other day has been crappy. Is there any advice out there? I am thinking about ending it early because I do not want to add on fat and continue to lift like I am.
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Your libido and natural test production is most likely shut down I'm experiencing the same thing, feeling unmotivated to do anything and feel exhausted all day even with a full nights rest. If you are able to take a nap throughout the day and get 12 hours of sleep a night you will feel much better. Only other options natural libido enhancers or adding testosterone.
 
crunchie12268 said:
Can I expect this throughout the whole cycle? Or will it get better? Is a test booster okay for on cycle?
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Some say it can help with libido a little but I figure mainly a waste of money. I have epi stacked with tren looking to throw in some real test or try tr3st from olympus labs. I'm running epi at 45mg a day and tren at 150mg a day right now.
 
I did a little research yesterday and a few suggested 100mg of DHEA... I picked some up while I was out at the Vitamin Shoppe yesterday. Did this help anyone? It is just a rapid dissolve tablet I put on my tongue.
 
I would add in trest or stano. Trest would be better but would require an AI. Either of those should get you out of the rut.
 
crunchie12268 said:
Is trest an oral? Do I take the AI on cycle or after?
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Yes trest is oral. AI is needed on cycle with trest, not so much with epi only. I would use one in pct with both options. For an AI, I would go with one of the topical formastane products that are out right. BLR, ironflex, or olympus.
 
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