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800 mgs if tren yes thats right

Feeling crappy is not from the tren that's only insomnia the appatite issue is from abombs dee!
Many report indigestion and appetite issue with moderate doses of tren alone. I would venture to say that the tren may be a primary contributor to the appetite issue. YMMV ?
 
Tmrw isn't first slin shot 5ius pw followed by 100 grans whey and 50 grams carbs then ip have a meal about an hour later should I wait untill 2hours when it peaks or just eat an hours after my shot
 
Tmrw isn't first slin shot 5ius pw followed by 100 grans whey and 50 grams carbs then ip have a meal about an hour later should I wait untill 2hours when it peaks or just eat an hours after my shot

Whenever you are hungry within the timeframe....a large PWO meal is gonna take some time to digest anyways, so the difference between 1 and 2 hours post won't really matter. I always wait until I'm hungry and get hypo (usually 2 hours or more PWO), but then again that leads to REALLY BAD food choices :D
 
I just want to say that many guys run 7-800 Tren. I heard that's where it really shines. A six or 8 week blast that high would probably be pretty effing great! But test is wayyyyyy to high. I bet if you ran 200-250 test along with your 800 Tren you would turn into an absolute beast. But all that test is just getting beat out at the receptors by Tren. You will get much higher sides because of this. I know guys who say Tren is virtually side free (as side-free as Tren can get) with low, TRT doses of test. Just my .02
 
I just want to say that many guys run 7-800 Tren. I heard that's where it really shines. A six or 8 week blast that high would probably be pretty effing great! But test is wayyyyyy to high. I bet if you ran 200-250 test along with your 800 Tren you would turn into an absolute beast. But all that test is just getting beat out at the receptors by Tren. You will get much higher sides because of this. I know guys who say Tren is virtually side free (as side-free as Tren can get) with low, TRT doses of test. Just my .02

If I don't match test or go higher, limp
Penis I will suffer.
 
cycle fixed:

400mgs test prop
500mgs tren ace
50mgs anadrol

If you want add a little masteron... run it for 8-10 weeks with two extra weeks of test

All the sides your gonna get from this is going to negatively effect your gains, plus you are gonna be spending a **** load on extra stuff to help control sides like estrogen... lower your does and add some mast...
 
cycle fixed:

400mgs test prop
500mgs tren ace
50mgs anadrol

If you want add a little masteron... run it for 8-10 weeks with two extra weeks of test

All the sides your gonna get from this is going to negatively effect your gains, plus you are gonna be spending a **** load on extra stuff to help control sides like estrogen... lower your does and add some mast...

Actually NO, I just added 6ius slin pw and my ancillaries are very on spot since starting the cycle I'm up 8 lbs no significant fat gains maybe even leaner
 
Actually NO, I just added 6ius slin pw and my ancillaries are very on spot since starting the cycle I'm up 8 lbs no significant fat gains maybe even leaner

With that much gear are you at least gaining .5-1lb a day?... You really should have balanced your gear to side ratio a lot better. If you had the cycle would have given you much better overall gains. If you continue like you are you most likely will get to a point where your body wont be able to take anymore... could I ask what your cycle history and current stats are?
 
With that much gear are you at least gaining .5-1lb a day?... You really should have balanced your gear to side ratio a lot better. If you had the cycle would have given you much better overall gains. If you continue like you are you most likely will get to a point where your body wont be able to take anymore... could I ask what your cycle history and current stats are?

5'5" 205 lbs blast and cruise started that one year ago any anabolic and I've probably used it. Bf a little higher at 11 % now and my gains re great bro
 
If I don't match test or go higher, limp
Penis I will suffer.

You're dead wrong. All your test won't bind to the AR because Tren has 5x the binding affinity of test. So it will just aromatize into estrogen and estrogen in addition to raised progesterone from Tren will cause high prolactin which will then cause you to get a limp dick. Low test with Tren. Always. Google high Tren low test.
 
Why even do tren when you can run Trest at 80ED and get gains equivalent to test/tren stack. Plus no sweats and strength like crazy. Energy like crazy. Libido like crazy. Pumps like no other and with a good AI you shred like many wish to.
 
Why even do tren when you can run Trest at 80ED and get gains equivalent to test/tren stack. Plus no sweats and strength like crazy. Energy like crazy. Libido like crazy. Pumps like no other and with a good AI you shred like many wish to.

Personally I think trest brings along to many other issues, besides just sides... you can very easily get gyno within a few weeks if ran high, even with a AI
 
Personally I think trest brings along to many other issues, besides just sides... you can very easily get gyno within a few weeks if ran high, even with a AI

In my experience the sides are less. Aromatization being the only think. Shutdown yeah but that's to be expected. Prolactin is harder to get a handle on than Trest converting to estrogen. Prami just makes the average user sick. Does me at .2 mg. My opinion though
 
5'5" 205 lbs blast and cruise started that one year ago any anabolic and I've probably used it. Bf a little higher at 11 % now and my gains re great bro

Honestly as far as running a lot of gear the choice is yours, but I think you would enjoy a run of Mast - Prop - Tren a lot more, and all three compounds synergize amazingly with each other... you will get a complete body transformation, leaving you big, dry and hard... you will love the results, and you can still run it high at like 500-600 a piece, but the Mast really helps with controlling some sides, and it optimizes the gear making it work better (for example one of the things mast does is allow for me free test)
 
In my experience the sides are less. Aromatization being the only think. Shutdown yeah but that's to be expected. Prolactin is harder to get a handle on than Trest converting to estrogen. Prami just makes the average user sick. Does me at .2 mg. My opinion though

Yea, my main issues with it is how readily it converts to estrogen, and that it can cause chemical castration
 
Yea, my main issues with it is how readily it converts to estrogen, and that it used to be used as a male contraceptive

Yeah don't get me wrong I'd love to do tren someday. I'm still trying to stay on the legal side for now and Trest isn't banned yet so. Call me chicken but I like going where I want and not worrying.
 
Yeah don't get me wrong I'd love to do tren someday. I'm still trying to stay on the legal side for now and Trest isn't banned yet so. Call me chicken but I like going where I want and not worrying.

definitely... btw I meant to write chemical castration not contraceptive
 
Honestly as far as running a lot of gear the choice is yours, but I think you would enjoy a run of Mast - Prop - Tren a lot more, and all three compounds synergize amazingly with each other... you will get a complete body transformation, leaving you big, dry and hard... you will love the results, and you can still run it high at like 500-600 a piece, but the Mast really helps with controlling some sides, and it optimizes the gear making it work better (for example one of the things mast does is allow for me free test)

I don't wanna harden up why would I be bulking and using 10ius of slin trying to get hard
 
I don't wanna harden up why would I be bulking and using 10ius of slin trying to get hard

Because you'd be the first guy who wants to be soft and huge lol. With the stack he's proposing, you get huge plus you'd be a fat burning inferno! I see guys all over the place who only want to get huge so they bulk but therefore have no shape. Very few guys you see easing around town with 10% bf or less.
 
Because you'd be the first guy who wants to be soft and huge lol. With the stack he's proposing, you get huge plus you'd be a fat burning inferno!

Exactly, you can do a lean bulk with it and after 8-10 weeks you'll see a complete transformation... you will be amazed, and you are around the prefect bf% to really get a nice transformation with the Mast
 
Why even do tren when you can run Trest at 80ED and get gains equivalent to test/tren stack. Plus no sweats and strength like crazy. Energy like crazy. Libido like crazy. Pumps like no other and with a good AI you shred like many wish to.

I think many many many people who have experience with Tren and trest would say that the gains are not even remotely similar. Tren is the god of steroids. It gives everything you would want from a steroid. Hardness, vascularity, insane strength, major lean mass, crazy libido (only if you run with low low low test, not high test). But it all comes at a price with the Tren sides we are all aware of. But what doesn't kill ya makes you stronger, especially Tren. Lol
 
I think many many many people who have experience with Tren and trest would say that the gains are not even remotely similar. Tren is the god of steroids. It gives everything you would want from a steroid. Hardness, vascularity, insane strength, major lean mass, crazy libido (only if you run with low low low test, not high test). But it all comes at a price with the Tren sides we are all aware of. But what doesn't kill ya makes you stronger, especially Tren. Lol

I experimented with low test and high test in my 10 weeks of tren a at 50-75/ed. At first low test was great but the longer I was on tren the more test I needed.
 
Ah, tren sides. For when three hours of sleep is a good night.
 
I never noticed a loss of sleep while on tren. I did breakout with acne on my shoulders. Kinda sucked. I look amazing except for the zits all over. I somewhat blame my job. Working in a auto assembly plant and aweatting my ass of for 10hrs a night.
 
Ok idk man I've run tren before but with slin this combo is frickin unbelievable I'm huge I've put on 10lbs in 1.5 weeks I dropped the abombs cuse I couldn't eat but damn slin is no joke gains wise just huge and the whole "get fat" thing is total hype u can stay lean using slin
 
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