8 week pro hormone cycle

Fzvertf

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First time posting on here, always have used forum for advice

Have ran multiple stacks over the past 2 years would like to think I have moderate experience running hormones

Base of the stack : B3AST Stack, by FLEX F.P.
month 1 - 3 caps a day

B3AST 90 Cap:
Serving size, 1 Cap:
3b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-17-one 50mg
19-Norandro (19-Nor) 60mg
18-methylestr-4-en-3-one-17b-ol 25mg
3,3-azo-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 20mg
Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione (Arimistan) 25mg
6 7 dihydroxybergamottin, Carbopol, 30mg

Month 2 - 3 caps a day

Wolverine HARDCORE 90 Cap:
Serving Size, 1 Cap:
3b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-17-one 50mg
19-Norandro (19-Nor) 80mg
6-chloro-androst-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol 30mg
3,3-azo-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 20mg
Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione (Arimistan) 25mg
6 7 dihydroxybergamottin, Carbopol, 30mg

Have ran this stack before with proper cycle support and pct and estrogen blocker and have nothing bad to say at all, had great gains vascularity and cuts. Pct was good and all in all had a great cycle

Current day thinking about running same cycle again with the addition of a Blackstone Labs DHEA product. abnormal and brutal force are two im thinking of. It would be a 19-norDHEA blend 50 mg two times a day. My main question is how anyone would feel about stacking the Blackstone Labs dhea product with the beast stack. Any input is appreciated, even tho I feel like most people are just going to say beast stack = liver failure from what I’ve read on other threads
 
I think if you've used these together before then go ahead and do it again. It seems like just one would do though. Adding the andros would maybe be alright I guess but I think stick to a big dose of 1 andro and leave off the 19 nor andro. You already have some oral nandrolone in there.
 
Ah, I misread, one then the other, got it. Go ahead and add the andros if you want. They both have 19 nor andro but the beast also has 18 methyl Nandrolone in it.
 
Old Witch said:
Ah, I misread, one then the other, got it. Go ahead and add the andros if you want. They both have 19 nor andro but the beast also has 18 methyl Nandrolone in it.
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Alright thanks, run the andros by Blackstone all 8 weeks while I’m on the beast stack or just the last 4?
 
Old Witch said:
Id say probably the full 8 weeks. They take some time
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I’m sorta new to the whole idea of stacking andros so i apologize if this is a dumb question but could I stack 1 andro the first month and 4 andro the second month

Super 1-Andro Rx

3b-enanthoxyandrost-1-en-17-one 50mg
6,7-dihydrogergamottin 45% 15mg
Piperine: 5 mg

4-Andro

4-androstene 3b-ol, 17-one: 50 mg
6,7-dihydroxybergamottin: 15 mg
Piperine (Black Pepper extract): 5 mg

Those are buy a company called iron mag labz never took there stuff and of course that would be on top of the beast stack still
 
I’m not really sure why you want to add DHEA to stack of real PHs. But those 1 and 4 Andro products are doses super low. Most people recommend minimum 300mg of each.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
I’m not really sure why you want to add DHEA to stack of real PHs. But those 1 and 4 Andro products are doses super low. Most people recommend minimum 300mg of each.
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Honestly that’s why I’m asking on here, I was talking to a friend of mine saying I want to make my cycle a little better and they suggested andros
 
Fzvertf said:
Honestly that’s why I’m asking on here, I was talking to a friend of mine saying I want to make my cycle a little better and they suggested andros
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Not positive, I’m not good with chemical names, but it appears the first listed ingredient in each product is actually 1 Andro. You could add some to that since you’ll already be taking some, that would help you spend a little less on andros. I’m just not sure you’d notice much extra on that.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
Not positive, I’m not good with chemical names, but it appears the first listed ingredient in each product is actually 1 Andro. You could add some to that since you’ll already be taking some, that would help you spend a little less on andros. I’m just not sure you’d notice much extra on that.
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It's Epiandro. Id just grab a couple of bottle of alpha GAINZ 1 andro TD to add in, it's cheap, dosage is ok.
 
Just saying, if you eat andros orally, you get about 1% of that dose. If you use TD you get about 70% of that dose, but over six hours to absorb.
 
Old Witch said:
Just saying, if you eat andros orally, you get about 1% of that dose. If you use TD you get about 70% of that dose, but over six hours to absorb.
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I’m a little confused still on why it’s ok to stack a non methyl ph with a methyl ph, in this case running the 1 or 4 andro on top of the original beast stack
 
Fzvertf said:
I’m a little confused still on why it’s ok to stack a non methyl ph with a methyl ph, in this case running the 1 or 4 andro on top of the original beast stack
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What’s confusing you? You could realistically stack anything you want. You just have to keep in mind cost and diminishing returns of each. Also, typically you’d want to use compounds which will act differently for specific benefits, not to mention some people tend to notice some compounds seem to help others work better. As far as methylation specifically, all I know of is that methylated compounds tend to stress the liver, which is why you don’t want to stack too many at once. If it’s not methylated, it should have a minimal effect on the liver, which is probably what makes it “okay” as you heard.
 
8 weeks of this would be fine with TUDCA on board and good hydration.

Stacking the andros will be fine, but I would just add more 19-andro personally.

It’s androsterone, not Epiandro. This is good; Androsterone needs way less mg and you feel it fast. Easier on my bp too. You’ll be ready to f*ck or fight about an hour after every dose like clockwork.
 
Hyde said:
8 weeks of this would be fine with TUDCA on board and good hydration.

Stacking the andros will be fine, but I would just add more 19-andro personally.

It’s androsterone, not Epiandro. This is good; Androsterone needs way less mg and you feel it fast. Easier on my bp too. You’ll be ready to f*ck or fight about an hour after every dose like clockwork.
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Maybe some decabolin by hi tech? Serving Size: 1 Tablet

Servings Per Container: 60

19-NorAndrost-4-ene-3b-ol, 17-one Decanoate 75mg
 
Hyde said:
Yeah whatever is best cost/mg. Looks better than Blackstone.
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Actually since that stuff is decanoated it probably won't kick in for a dogs age. Also, IMO the 1-andro is the strongest of the DHEA stuff, the 19nor didn't seem to do anything for me. I figured if he wanted to add another dimension to the stack that would be probably the best route.
 
Old Witch said:
Actually since that stuff is decanoated it probably won't kick in for a dogs age. Also, IMO the 1-andro is the strongest of the DHEA stuff, the 19nor didn't seem to do anything for me. I figured if he wanted to add another dimension to the stack that would be probably the best route.
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How do you feel about adding 4-andro
 
Old Witch said:
Actually since that stuff is decanoated it probably won't kick in for a dogs age. Also, IMO the 1-andro is the strongest of the DHEA stuff, the 19nor didn't seem to do anything for me. I figured if he wanted to add another dimension to the stack that would be probably the best route.
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Well my logic is he’s already gonna get some 19-nortest from the stack ultimately so adding the 19-dhea would bolster that effect. I doubt the oral decanoate ester is going to hang on for any significant time compared to an injectable (I could be completely wrong here though). In either case, we wouldn’t mind it taking time to build and bolstering the latter half of the cycle.

Regardless if it’s actually fast or slow absorbing, putting a bottle of it in the first month and adding 2 bottles of 1-Dhea the last 6 weeks would be best of both worlds.

All of this completely unnecessary of course, but if he has money to burn.

Fzvertf said:
How do you feel about adding 4-andro
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You didn’t ask me, but I think it’s very weak. I have taken 1,200/day and it wasn’t crap compared to Epistane even, at any dosage, for gains. Epiandro is a better choice if you want more energy and libido. 750mg+ will boost those and strength, as well as help ward gyno slightly via estrogen antagonism.
 
Hyde said:
Well my logic is he’s already gonna get some 19-nortest from the stack ultimately so adding the 19-dhea would bolster that effect. I doubt the oral decanoate ester is going to hang on for any significant time compared to an injectable (I could be completely wrong here though). In either case, we wouldn’t mind it taking time to build and bolstering the latter half of the cycle.

Regardless if it’s actually fast or slow absorbing, putting a bottle of it in the first month and adding 2 bottles of 1-Dhea the last 6 weeks would be best of both worlds.

All of this completely unnecessary of course, but if he has money to burn.



You didn’t ask me, but I think it’s very weak. I have taken 1,200/day and it wasn’t crap compared to Epistane even, at any dosage, for gains. Epiandro is a better choice if you want more energy and libido. 750mg+ will boost those and strength, as well as help ward gyno slightly via estrogen antagonism.
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They need to make a tren DHEA. Estra 4,9,11, triene 3b ol 17 one.

Or SUPER TREN DHEA 3b enanthoxy estra 4,9,11 triene 17 one.
 
I made a very detailed 1 4 andro log on here a while back along with progress pics, go take a look at it it should help you a lot. I would start 1 and 4 andro at the same time and slowly work the doses up gradually. You could also add Epi andro for the extra aggression if you want, I enjoyed it. Be prepared for heavy lethargy around 3 4 weeks but the gains and pumps will be good in the gym. Taking my doses made me feel like Superman lol so you’ll enjoy it. MAKE SURE you have an actual AI like adex because I kid you not I got gyno from This cycle and I ignored what other people said about using an AI as I used an over the counter AI and I’m stuck with this gyno. Good luck man let me know if you have any questions.
 
astronomical said:
I made a very detailed 1 4 andro log on here a while back along with progress pics, go take a look at it it should help you a lot. I would start 1 and 4 andro at the same time and slowly work the doses up gradually. You could also add Epi andro for the extra aggression if you want, I enjoyed it. Be prepared for heavy lethargy around 3 4 weeks but the gains and pumps will be good in the gym. Taking my doses made me feel like Superman lol so you’ll enjoy it. MAKE SURE you have an actual AI like adex because I kid you not I got gyno from This cycle and I ignored what other people said about using an AI as I used an over the counter AI and I’m stuck with this gyno. Good luck man let me know if you have any questions.
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Never use an OTC AI.
 
Old Witch said:
Never use an OTC AI.
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Seconded. Even if I am using formestane, exemestane and letrozole are always at hand, as is nolva. Ralox can be a great one to keep on hand as well.

I have only ever used letro once, but it’s very cheap and worth keeping around in case of emergency.
 
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